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now you should be able to hear me

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hear myself

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good bringing Mike

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hello good morning Mike good morning did

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I slept a little bit I have circled in

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my eyes I'm tired but well I could I saw

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like you tweet and I'm like I don't

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think Joe slept I don't think he's

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sleeping I think he's too excited for

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the UFO nerd Super Bowl it was it was

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um I'll be relieved once we get audio

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make sure we have audio from this feed

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from the YouTube okay yeah yeah yeah

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in you would think if the if the if the

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world was aware of this story and and

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thought of it how we did I we should not

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be able to get into that page but it was

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like boom there you know it hung up for

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like a second and then it's there I

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remember when Stephen Greer

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conference at the national Press Club

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being here decent I heard I heard he's

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was a link to watch online which did not

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work I mean it was hammered uh which I

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let's see I'm getting messages about

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Facebook live went live it doesn't

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um so how are you doing what are you

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thinking how you feeling

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crazy high I think I'm not sure if we'll

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closed uh hearing is first now this time

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those moments where they're like what

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uh UFO cases in space or underwater

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don't know if we'll get like those

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non-answers you know what I mean where

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like they where Kirkpatrick will say

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100 yeah it's like Lou in in the past

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so if Kirk patch that's why it's up to

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the Senators to make sure you say

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have you been briefed about anything

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related to alleged crash retrieval

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programs that deal with non-human

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intelligence or something that's not

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made by humans you asked that question

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crash retrievals to come out of

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Kirkpatrick to take a bathroom break

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be excuse me Senators but before I

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yeah yeah and then just hear her puking

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documentary Robert Durst the murderer

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white page the YouTube page yeah I guess

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on Twitter probably most are but

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one a couple of threads I mean this

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morning first off people who don't know

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who Sean Kirkpatrick is he's the head of

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um a physicist and recently he wrote a

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uh if there was a probe maybe alien

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probes are here they were here trying to

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get water that's why they're they're

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surrounding planets and they talked

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seeds yeah and but they also noted they

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people who study UFOs know that people

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who see UFOs making these Maneuvers they

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do not see Fireballs they do not hear

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Sonic Boom so a lot of people including

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they're still people are still covering

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it they talk about that more than the

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UAP here and it's just like an

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afterthought that you would be hearing

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today yeah and he was and he was on you

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um Good Morning America not he but they

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did a story on Kirkpatrick in the

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hearing today and they said um the host

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comes in says I come in peace the

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obligatory joke and then he said later

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on he called UAP UAV but other than that

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it's it's coverage so it's good

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his theory about and and Avi loved the

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theory about they surround these

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extraterrestrials would be around

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planets because they need water for fuel

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and then they cut the Jilla brand she

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goes those are theories ideal in fact

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if I can figure out what the hell I'm

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doing pull up

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what's your what's your take on

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zillibrand while I pull this up

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lucky to have her I'm grateful for what

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she's doing but I feel like sometimes

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she plays it too safe especially when

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she goes in you know major media outlet

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posted it on Twitter who captured it

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information from people she's like you

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get it back to me report back to me in a

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going to be like oh you need more money

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oh you need more time okay right

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um let me just go over this thread so

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about what the latest was going on

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disclosure and contact and

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portrayed 2023 could be amazing but but

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I'll believe it when I see it because

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we've heard things before and there are

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different levels of whistleblowers you

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who put their hands on the craft and

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said yeah I was in a crash retrieval

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program there was a craft there and I

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Michael via he's like Mike Vai he goes

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you're not going to get that so I don't

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know what we're gonna get or if he's

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wrong he's probably right I don't see

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that happening anytime soon I don't see

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how that could be you know

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private messages where Lou is basically

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praising him and saying people don't

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realize how clued in you are to this

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topic and how I don't know what kind of

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clearances he has but he allegedly has

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clearances and he talks like he's an

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expect whistleblowers to succeed if

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Kirkpatrick lays an egg during

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Wednesday's hearing you know and then

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going forward will whistleblower

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circumvent the system basically and go

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directly to Congress that was the

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question that Danny put out because a

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about Kirk that's a great question your

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send me that DM the one where you went

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through all the Kirkpatrick stuff oh

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sure and I'll put that up next um so

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have bypassed Congress my point is

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what to expect this is a pivotal point

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he means about today

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they're setting the precedent for going

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forward I cannot predict Kirkpatrick's

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actions but what I can say it's in his

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best interest to be open if he isn't

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going to come if he isn't going to be

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open it's going to come back to bite him

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in the ass very soon there are backup

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plans to backup plans and everyone is

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standing by to see which side he chooses

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to be on he was told everything he has

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been told everything he needs to be able

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to answer the questions everyone wants

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to know

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so basically yeah if if he doesn't do

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what we hope supposedly there are backup

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plans of people behind the scenes ready

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to tell their stories which apparently

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some of them already have Richard also

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said by the way that's not his real name

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obviously Richard butt he said by the

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end of this year he expects confirmation

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of a non-human intelligence by the

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government not necessarily the President

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coming out and admitting it but other

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parts of the government who were

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directly involved and I said have I

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heard anything similar to that and like

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yeah last year somebody very credible

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person I will tell I've told one person

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this Mike knows who it is

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um they said that last fall they told me

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upcoming there would be absolute

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bombshell Revelations for the general

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populace not just us so that's going to

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get out to everybody I don't know

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timeline they did not give me a timeline

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so I don't know and the person is

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credible but until it happens you know

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it's only

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you know alleged

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sorry it interrupt so I didn't realize

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this is the Joe mergio show yeah well

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and for people who don't know what that

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is Robert said making fun of Robert

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Salas he's one of the witnesses you know

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intervention allegedly from UFOs and uh

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Roberts was on

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and who was talking and Robert Sala said

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I didn't realize this is the blue

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Elizondo show it's such a burn that's a

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great great thing came out of nowhere

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too I wasn't expecting it

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um but we also heard publicly Gary Nolan

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says something similar in the next six

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months yeah someone's gonna come out

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yeah

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um and Jake King followed up what

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Richard say Jay is a great history of an

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experience it was really one of my

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favorite lots of witnesses family

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friends

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um I've linked to it before I need to

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link to it again on here

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um many of us Jay says many of us with

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good sources are here in the same thing

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as Richard like there's a backup plan

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and it's important to understand not

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just this timeline but there are

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probably some fail-safes and

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contingencies if certain people try to

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mess with this timeline it sounds like

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time travel

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um

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and then like like you said and Gary

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Nolan was on with Matt the good trouble

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show Matt does a great job

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um Nolan said where are we going to be

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in let's say six months

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um end of summer he goes I do think that

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you're going to see some information

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coming out from those on the inside who

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have decided to step forward and that

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will change things that will change

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whistleblower's briefed Congress on

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behind the scenes

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um he said crash retrieval and contact

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and poor Bell has talked about contact

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too I don't know what contact means it

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could be just you know we have craft and

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bodies is that contact I don't think

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corbel clarified when he was on Russell

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Brand he wasn't talking about like

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direct contact with ETS or non-humans so

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I don't know I just said communication

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just say communication right

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that could be like that could be

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blinking your lights on a UFO or

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something like a flashlight

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right and then let's see if this one the

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most boring version of communication

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and then you you had um let's see yeah I

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post Joe I post Clips two days ago yeah

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you got audio Washington DC and I uh

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okay so this is what James fox said

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related to the same thing with

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whistleblowers as I just stated I just

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spent the last five weeks I just got

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back 10 days ago from Washington DC and

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I I got an Insider's perspective on on

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what's Happening uh right now today as

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we speak

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and uh it's quite um

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boy there's I felt like I just got back

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from watching a sci-fi thriller or

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something you know everyone's like oh

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how was your trip to BC you know it's

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like well do you really want to know uh

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um what's happening behind the scenes

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well even in front of the scenes is

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pretty remarkable right we've got the

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new legislation

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and I'll get to your question in a

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minute we got the new legislation that

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was signed into law late December of

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2022 so basically the 2023 legislation

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UAP legislation was a bipartisan effort

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from Marco Rubio and Kristen uh Senator

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gillibrand uh representative Gallego and

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Gallagher and a handful of others

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and uh what it basically does is a

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formation of a new UAP task force Arrow

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run by Sean Kirkpatrick they've got this

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language that talks about Crash

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recovered debris which is phenomenal I

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mean that's I I was addressing this with

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insiders about it like you anyone can go

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download it and read it

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but basically talking about

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UFO crash material

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and obviously you know we had the

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Congressional hearings last year that

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Andre representative Andre Carson uh put

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put together and there was the the

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Wilson memo brought up crash material

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there was uh

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previous cases with with UFOs and nukes

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that we covered in the phenomenon

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um don't know if they brought up rentals

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in Forest I don't think they did but

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that's that's also that's also new

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related

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um and and I met with intelligence folks

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that had just met with Kirkpatrick and

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met with Senate Intel and they did they

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couldn't share every single detail

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because it was classified but they did

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with them

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um sort of as a precautionary measure

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that if if their testimony went in to uh

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arrow and and never came out they they

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could have a backup plan uh going public

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and saying look you know I I gave

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testimony to the Senate Intel I gave

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testimony to uh and what they're

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basically saying is is that um

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uh uh and uh

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these programs exist these reverse

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engineered programs exist uh I and again

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this is what they shared with me was

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that are they currently employed the

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intelligence folks that were

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speaking uh some of them some of them

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were yes and some of them were retired

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but no a lot of them were still employed

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wow don't take it from me and I have

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this on camera

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just recently don't take it from me you

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know don't take my testimony but I'm

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here to tell you this is the name of the

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program this is the location of the

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program these are the names of the

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individuals involved with the programs

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and if you give me the credentials or

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the or the uh security clearance I'll

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walk you into the labs and that's

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happening right now uh in Washington DC

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and I've you know seen the photographs

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in these guys credentials uh not one not

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two not three but uh over more than

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three and and they're telling me about

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their friends that are also testifying

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there's a lot going on the question is

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is whether Kirkpatrick

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is gonna

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so

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and we didn't get clarity on all that

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because we had some follow-up questions

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yeah we want we wanted to know you know

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first of all

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UFO Jesus and I will I will remember to

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link to that interview I don't know what

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show that was from you may know what

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show but I will link to it later on it's

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in there there if you just go show more

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but like that's I left put the link in

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there

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yeah I don't but the problem is people

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won't be able to tell

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but right oh yeah

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yeah because they can't click on it but

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I will I will do that

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um I'll tell you what that is

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but yeah we asked we asked I asked James

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I said could you clarify because Ryan

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said are these people still employed

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well which people the people that he's

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talking to the intelligence sources yeah

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or the people who work

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in or related to these alleged UFO crash

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programs that we're hearing about you

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know are they still did you get did he

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get those people on it sounds like you

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got whoever he's talking to on camera

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and this is the backup plan if if arrow

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goes south yeah that sounded like it

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sounded like he's got people who worked

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who have touched these crap and worked

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on these crafts on camera and I don't

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know that's way too good to be true no I

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don't know

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and he um I'm gonna pull up your other

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well I can't do that right now um

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he um

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he didn't answer I know he's busy and I

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wanted to know basically he also talks

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about he's I've seen pictures I've seen

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pictures of what of of the witnesses

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because he says I've seen pictures of

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like and then three or maybe more and

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then they have other people who are

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going to testify it all seems great and

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I try not to get too excited I'll try to

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keep even Keel again in 2023 could be

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great or it could be well we'll have to

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wait till 2024 because I really don't

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know

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um oh here's something

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here's something I can share that I have

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not shared

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um a lot of stuff I get

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I'm not told if I can share it or not so

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I have to

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you know I've it's rare that they'll say

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by the way you can share this or by the

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way right

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that clip was from the amazing people

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podcast there you go and I will link to

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a new YouTube channel yeah

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um

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I've had people share stuff with me and

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I'm like this is really good and this is

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important can I share it and the

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response back was hell no are you

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kidding me you can't share this I'm like

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all right I had to ask but there are

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other things I've shared before I I

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think I've done pretty good I've shared

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based on my

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my feeling of what I can and can't share

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and I'll just share this one thing

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um that I had I within the past week I

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got this it's basically and it's about

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Kirkpatrick nobody has reported this

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let's see

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it's about Kirkpatrick and I'm trying to

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get the exact wording

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so basically somebody told me he's

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leaving Arrow within the year

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I don't know why I don't know if he's

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doing that on his own to pursue other

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stuff I don't know if it's true but good

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source

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um we'll see

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we're in April so we'll see how long he

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stays on you know you would think if the

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guy was interested like which I'm going

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to pull up your stuff

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um about Kirkpatrick you would think if

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he's interested in the subject this is

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something you wouldn't you wouldn't yeah

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and you wouldn't you would you wouldn't

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write what he wrote in that paper that

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draft paper with Abby Loeb exactly

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no exactly things don't things don't

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line up so some either I don't know how

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it all could be right about the lists

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are about to show

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um someone's someone someone's wrong it

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sounds like something's wrong with this

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something's wrong if you want to go

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through this

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okay sure

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um let me pull up on my screen but yeah

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it's on their screen so

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uh these are the things these I just

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collected the things that in statements

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that have been said over the past month

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or two about Sean Kirkpatrick because

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he's we've never heard him talk publicly

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right at all

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I you know I don't know if they released

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audio of that okay that meeting this is

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an impressive he had

553
00:22:46,430 --> 00:22:44,940
right okay so this is like just what

554
00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:46,440
we've heard through interviews so number

555
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,480
one is um

556
00:22:51,470 --> 00:22:50,400
he's he's met with more than he's met

557
00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:51,480
with more than three unknown

558
00:22:55,130 --> 00:22:53,280
whistleblowers and that's according to

559
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:55,140
George Knapp and James Fox the clip we

560
00:22:58,669 --> 00:22:57,120
just watched just now

561
00:23:01,490 --> 00:22:58,679
um and when we say unknown

562
00:23:04,370 --> 00:23:01,500
whistleblowers we don't mean Bob Jacobs

563
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:04,380
and Robert Salas we mean like

564
00:23:08,029 --> 00:23:06,720
supposedly people who've worked on these

565
00:23:09,950 --> 00:23:08,039
reverse engineering programs or

566
00:23:12,049 --> 00:23:09,960
something else but unknown we don't know

567
00:23:13,310 --> 00:23:12,059
where they are and if it did turn out it

568
00:23:15,169 --> 00:23:13,320
was all these people that we've already

569
00:23:17,630 --> 00:23:15,179
seen before it would be a massive

570
00:23:18,890 --> 00:23:17,640
disappointment unless there could be a

571
00:23:21,649 --> 00:23:18,900
couple of people like I've said it

572
00:23:22,909 --> 00:23:21,659
before Eric Davis may have done some

573
00:23:25,490 --> 00:23:22,919
stuff it's like

574
00:23:27,950 --> 00:23:25,500
if if he was right into a program he

575
00:23:28,970 --> 00:23:27,960
wouldn't be able to tell me so but you

576
00:23:30,529 --> 00:23:28,980
know something like that but yeah

577
00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:30,539
hopefully these are new people these are

578
00:23:33,770 --> 00:23:31,919
scientists yeah

579
00:23:35,690 --> 00:23:33,780
so that's my understanding it's it's

580
00:23:36,830 --> 00:23:35,700
unknown we don't we've never met these

581
00:23:37,850 --> 00:23:36,840
people

582
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:37,860
um

583
00:23:43,730 --> 00:23:42,000
showing up for work and he's doing the

584
00:23:45,649 --> 00:23:43,740
bare minimum with his position at Arrow

585
00:23:49,010 --> 00:23:45,659
according to Matt Ford from the good

586
00:23:51,049 --> 00:23:49,020
trouble show so that's not good and that

587
00:23:54,890 --> 00:23:51,059
kind of lines up with like the whole

588
00:23:56,570 --> 00:23:54,900
he's leaving in a Year too and Matt Matt

589
00:23:58,250 --> 00:23:56,580
um does a lot of work for the Democratic

590
00:24:00,289 --> 00:23:58,260
party I mean that's what he does and

591
00:24:02,750 --> 00:24:00,299
this obviously this is not this isn't

592
00:24:04,850 --> 00:24:02,760
this is bipartisan but it puts out a lot

593
00:24:06,529 --> 00:24:04,860
of videos really excellent editor and um

594
00:24:09,409 --> 00:24:06,539
he works in the same field on television

595
00:24:11,270 --> 00:24:09,419
that I do really good guy really sharp

596
00:24:12,830 --> 00:24:11,280
so I don't you know people like who is

597
00:24:14,990 --> 00:24:12,840
Matt he's just making this stuff up I'm

598
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:15,000
like no man has sources Congressional

599
00:24:20,690 --> 00:24:18,240
stuff so he was like the first one that

600
00:24:23,149 --> 00:24:20,700
confirmed UAP hearings like this one

601
00:24:25,610 --> 00:24:23,159
right I think so there was also the

602
00:24:28,190 --> 00:24:25,620
other guy who calls gildebrand names but

603
00:24:30,289 --> 00:24:28,200
I'm not really mentioning that well

604
00:24:34,250 --> 00:24:30,299
Chris Chris sharp was reporting on it

605
00:24:37,789 --> 00:24:34,260
but he but I believe Matt Ford confirmed

606
00:24:40,909 --> 00:24:37,799
it like actually I think so um so number

607
00:24:43,789 --> 00:24:40,919
three is uh from Stephen Green Street uh

608
00:24:45,830 --> 00:24:43,799
Kirkpatrick is a total ufi UFO guy with

609
00:24:48,830 --> 00:24:45,840
Skinwalker Ranch ties like mckernan

610
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:48,840
Stratton Etc uh and this is from his

611
00:24:54,409 --> 00:24:51,360
anonymous source and uh you would have

612
00:24:55,909 --> 00:24:54,419
gotten that in the latest episode of the

613
00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:55,919
basement office which was released

614
00:24:58,549 --> 00:24:57,120
yesterday if you don't want to watch the

615
00:25:01,430 --> 00:24:58,559
little thing just skip to chapter two

616
00:25:02,990 --> 00:25:01,440
that's the part about uh Kirkpatrick I

617
00:25:05,330 --> 00:25:03,000
have not seen it yet and that would be

618
00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:05,340
surprising it wouldn't be totally I

619
00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:06,720
really wasn't thinking of that but I

620
00:25:09,950 --> 00:25:07,919
mean considering he wrote that paper

621
00:25:13,810 --> 00:25:09,960
maybe maybe maybe that's true I don't

622
00:25:17,570 --> 00:25:16,070
a great source because I've seen his

623
00:25:18,770 --> 00:25:17,580
work where he just Cherry picks and

624
00:25:20,630 --> 00:25:18,780
leaves out really important information

625
00:25:22,190 --> 00:25:20,640
but I can't say if that's true or not

626
00:25:24,169 --> 00:25:22,200
what about Kirkpatrick

627
00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:24,179
I'm I'm not gonna I'm gonna try to put

628
00:25:27,169 --> 00:25:25,679
in a nutshell really quickly so not mess

629
00:25:29,090 --> 00:25:27,179
it up what was revealed in the basement

630
00:25:30,769 --> 00:25:29,100
Office episode okay so Brett he's doing

631
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:30,779
an interview with Brandon fugle Stephen

632
00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:33,600
Green Street Brandon fugle says that in

633
00:25:38,750 --> 00:25:36,960
2018 he was called by someone in Senator

634
00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:38,760
McCain's office

635
00:25:43,990 --> 00:25:41,520
uh to come brief them about Skinwalker

636
00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:44,000
Ranch in 2018 so he goes to Washington

637
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:47,279
D.C he's in a big conference room he

638
00:25:50,810 --> 00:25:49,440
takes photos Brandon fugel takes photos

639
00:25:52,909 --> 00:25:50,820
of the conference room shows Stephen

640
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:52,919
Green Street but he wasn't allowed to

641
00:25:58,190 --> 00:25:55,200
show it on camera Stephen Green Street

642
00:26:02,029 --> 00:25:58,200
recognizes three people Hal put off

643
00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:02,039
Sean Kirkpatrick and bro uh Brennan

644
00:26:06,409 --> 00:26:04,559
mckernan which was he was briefly the

645
00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:06,419
director of the UAP task force right

646
00:26:10,490 --> 00:26:08,640
when Jay Stratton left mckernan took

647
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:10,500
over yeah he was like in between there

648
00:26:14,810 --> 00:26:13,679
so those three guys in 2018 and

649
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:14,820
basically

650
00:26:20,750 --> 00:26:17,279
according to Green Street's anonymous

651
00:26:23,810 --> 00:26:20,760
source Kirkpatrick said to Brandon fugle

652
00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:23,820
that um you don't you can skip the part

653
00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:25,919
or try to con you can stop trying to

654
00:26:30,529 --> 00:26:28,320
convince us that convince us the reality

655
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:30,539
of UFOs because we know about it we know

656
00:26:34,909 --> 00:26:32,400
it's real we're uh we know what's going

657
00:26:37,250 --> 00:26:34,919
on just tell us what's happening at the

658
00:26:39,169 --> 00:26:37,260
ranch basically and that's all that's in

659
00:26:41,149 --> 00:26:39,179
a nutshell that's what happened in

660
00:26:43,610 --> 00:26:41,159
chapter two of the latest episode of the

661
00:26:45,289 --> 00:26:43,620
basement office sorry I need the burp

662
00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:45,299
and I just talk right through it I don't

663
00:26:51,169 --> 00:26:48,559
know why I did that it happens a lot I

664
00:26:52,970 --> 00:26:51,179
just pushed right through the burp it

665
00:26:56,090 --> 00:26:52,980
was terrible

666
00:26:58,070 --> 00:26:56,100
so number four uh he's reached out to so

667
00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:58,080
Sean Kirkpatrick has reached out to Eric

668
00:27:01,250 --> 00:26:59,760
Davis for an interview and he's also

669
00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:01,260
going to try to interview Admiral Tom

670
00:27:05,930 --> 00:27:04,260
Wilson according to Danny Sheehan

671
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:05,940
uh I don't know if you can add anything

672
00:27:10,130 --> 00:27:07,440
to that or if you know yeah I can add

673
00:27:12,110 --> 00:27:10,140
that I I I've said it on Twitter that I

674
00:27:14,029 --> 00:27:12,120
I spoke to somebody a couple of months

675
00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:14,039
ago it was actually late last year I

676
00:27:19,370 --> 00:27:16,799
think and they said he goes this is

677
00:27:20,990 --> 00:27:19,380
secondhand information but from what I'm

678
00:27:22,909 --> 00:27:21,000
hearing Admiral Wilson was told about

679
00:27:24,769 --> 00:27:22,919
The Whistleblower language and if he

680
00:27:27,409 --> 00:27:24,779
would like to speak to arrow and he said

681
00:27:28,970 --> 00:27:27,419
contact my lawyer

682
00:27:30,409 --> 00:27:28,980
um and I told this person I'm like you

683
00:27:32,930 --> 00:27:30,419
know what I don't blame the guy I mean

684
00:27:35,930 --> 00:27:32,940
it's the biggest if we really have

685
00:27:37,970 --> 00:27:35,940
what allegedly is in the you know if we

686
00:27:40,370 --> 00:27:37,980
really have an intact craft not made by

687
00:27:43,070 --> 00:27:40,380
human hands and he has some information

688
00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:43,080
about that and there's some and I've

689
00:27:47,149 --> 00:27:45,240
heard stories about intimidation going

690
00:27:48,590 --> 00:27:47,159
on behind the scenes why would he want

691
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:48,600
to mess with that why would he want to

692
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:49,919
bring that upon his family so I

693
00:27:53,210 --> 00:27:51,840
understand that I also understand it's

694
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:53,220
the most important story in the history

695
00:27:57,230 --> 00:27:54,720
of humanity

696
00:27:58,970 --> 00:27:57,240
um if it's true but the story can be

697
00:28:00,890 --> 00:27:58,980
told without Wilson Wilson's really cool

698
00:28:02,510 --> 00:28:00,900
and I would love a lot I would love to

699
00:28:04,130 --> 00:28:02,520
tell a certain few people who think

700
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,140
Wilson is telling the truth when he says

701
00:28:07,970 --> 00:28:06,480
he didn't meet with Eric Davis that I

702
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:07,980
want I would love to see Wilson up there

703
00:28:12,169 --> 00:28:10,559
saying I had to lie you know I had to

704
00:28:14,029 --> 00:28:12,179
lie you know because the program is

705
00:28:16,970 --> 00:28:14,039
classified it's a it's a waved

706
00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:16,980
unacknowledged special access program so

707
00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:18,240
yeah I had to lie I would love to get

708
00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:19,679
that out there but we don't need the

709
00:28:23,149 --> 00:28:21,840
story to be told he does not need to be

710
00:28:25,130 --> 00:28:23,159
part of it we need the people in the

711
00:28:27,169 --> 00:28:25,140
programs and now I'm rambling so anyway

712
00:28:28,250 --> 00:28:27,179
that's what I've heard about that so I

713
00:28:29,930 --> 00:28:28,260
don't know if that's I'm sure

714
00:28:32,090 --> 00:28:29,940
Kirkpatrick would love to speak with

715
00:28:33,890 --> 00:28:32,100
Wilson but he's not a mean guy you want

716
00:28:37,070 --> 00:28:33,900
the people in the program whether or not

717
00:28:39,529 --> 00:28:37,080
he has or not yet I don't know

718
00:28:41,390 --> 00:28:39,539
yeah because at most you can give him

719
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:41,400
like yes I try to get access but I could

720
00:28:47,930 --> 00:28:44,640
get it right right okay unless you got

721
00:28:49,370 --> 00:28:47,940
access after right that's possible too

722
00:28:51,470 --> 00:28:49,380
yeah

723
00:28:54,169 --> 00:28:51,480
um so number five uh this is from Gary

724
00:28:56,269 --> 00:28:54,179
Nolan uh Sean Kirkpatrick probably knows

725
00:28:58,370 --> 00:28:56,279
almost the most about the phenomenon and

726
00:28:59,810 --> 00:28:58,380
anyone else in the world today in terms

727
00:29:02,990 --> 00:28:59,820
of what he's been able to publicly

728
00:29:04,010 --> 00:29:03,000
publicly collect so that's like to me

729
00:29:07,549 --> 00:29:04,020
that's

730
00:29:09,169 --> 00:29:07,559
on the side of this guy likes his job

731
00:29:11,450 --> 00:29:09,179
and is actually doing a good job

732
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:11,460
collecting all the debt like just isn't

733
00:29:14,210 --> 00:29:12,720
it isn't that what you get from Gary

734
00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:14,220
Nolan's quote

735
00:29:20,990 --> 00:29:17,760
um no no only because I asked somebody I

736
00:29:22,450 --> 00:29:21,000
said I said to somebody I said hey looks

737
00:29:24,590 --> 00:29:22,460
like looks like

738
00:29:26,930 --> 00:29:24,600
Kirkpatrick is doing good and they said

739
00:29:28,190 --> 00:29:26,940
he's doing what's required of him in the

740
00:29:30,409 --> 00:29:28,200
ndaa

741
00:29:32,930 --> 00:29:30,419
so okay nothing more nothing less

742
00:29:34,669 --> 00:29:32,940
whether or not it goes beyond that and

743
00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:34,679
he's more interested in getting to the

744
00:29:37,970 --> 00:29:35,940
bottom of this and getting the truth out

745
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:37,980
I don't know hopefully yes but I don't

746
00:29:40,850 --> 00:29:38,640
know

747
00:29:42,350 --> 00:29:40,860
but from Gary Nolan's perspective do you

748
00:29:44,690 --> 00:29:42,360
think I know you can't speak for Gary

749
00:29:45,649 --> 00:29:44,700
Nolan but do you think like I'm just

750
00:29:47,690 --> 00:29:45,659
saying

751
00:29:49,370 --> 00:29:47,700
Kirkpatrick is one of the most informed

752
00:29:51,049 --> 00:29:49,380
because he's talked he's talking to all

753
00:29:52,850 --> 00:29:51,059
these people basically that's what Nolan

754
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:52,860
is saying and he has access to people we

755
00:29:57,049 --> 00:29:55,440
don't have access to so if he's phoning

756
00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:57,059
it if he's phoning it in he's still

757
00:30:00,830 --> 00:29:59,039
getting that info but he's what if he

758
00:30:03,289 --> 00:30:00,840
does anything with it who knows yeah

759
00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:03,299
he's allegedly doing the bare minimum if

760
00:30:06,590 --> 00:30:05,039
we take that side and I I really don't

761
00:30:08,750 --> 00:30:06,600
know we have such controversial

762
00:30:10,490 --> 00:30:08,760
conflicting information on Kirkpatrick I

763
00:30:14,990 --> 00:30:10,500
don't know which one to believe yeah

764
00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:15,000
this whole list yeah and the final one

765
00:30:20,269 --> 00:30:17,520
was added yesterday I uh from anonymous

766
00:30:22,669 --> 00:30:20,279
source uh to me

767
00:30:24,350 --> 00:30:22,679
um Sean is a narcissist I know people

768
00:30:26,230 --> 00:30:24,360
who have worked with them they didn't

769
00:30:28,850 --> 00:30:26,240
have anything good to say

770
00:30:30,590 --> 00:30:28,860
and have you heard similar from other

771
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:30,600
people that he's a like that word

772
00:30:34,430 --> 00:30:32,159
narcissist

773
00:30:36,289 --> 00:30:34,440
I've heard similar

774
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:36,299
um I've heard

775
00:30:39,710 --> 00:30:37,919
could be all coming from the same person

776
00:30:42,049 --> 00:30:39,720
that's the problem though it could be

777
00:30:44,029 --> 00:30:42,059
and originally when Lou was asked when

778
00:30:45,289 --> 00:30:44,039
Kirkpatrick's name first came out Lou

779
00:30:47,630 --> 00:30:45,299
said

780
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:47,640
basically

781
00:30:52,190 --> 00:30:49,919
let's wait and see you kind of got the

782
00:30:53,990 --> 00:30:52,200
feeling from Lou like uh insane all

783
00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:54,000
right oh he's amazing he's fantastic

784
00:31:01,130 --> 00:30:57,360
he's really yeah I did not get that no

785
00:31:03,049 --> 00:31:01,140
so hopefully this uh hearing will will

786
00:31:05,330 --> 00:31:03,059
sort of figure out where his head's at

787
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:05,340
like where like this is the first time

788
00:31:10,430 --> 00:31:07,440
we get to actually hear him talk about

789
00:31:13,070 --> 00:31:10,440
it what he's learned what he's done

790
00:31:15,169 --> 00:31:13,080
um it's exciting this is the UFO nerd

791
00:31:17,149 --> 00:31:15,179
Super Bowl I don't know what uh if this

792
00:31:21,049 --> 00:31:17,159
isn't the Super Bowl for UFO nerds what

793
00:31:23,930 --> 00:31:21,059
is this is a good one this is

794
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:23,940
the UAP report not it's excited I don't

795
00:31:29,630 --> 00:31:27,360
think no not even close

796
00:31:31,130 --> 00:31:29,640
um it was nice to have but and this

797
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:31,140
could be boring we could be talking

798
00:31:35,330 --> 00:31:33,840
about funding and numbers and all I want

799
00:31:37,970 --> 00:31:35,340
to hear the funding I want to hear that

800
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:37,980
but you know we we all want to hear

801
00:31:42,169 --> 00:31:39,600
you know about cases we want to hear

802
00:31:44,090 --> 00:31:42,179
about Witnesses I'll just go down some

803
00:31:46,370 --> 00:31:44,100
some questions and guys if you ask

804
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:46,380
questions before ask them again because

805
00:31:49,370 --> 00:31:48,240
I wasn't paying I mean I saw some of

806
00:31:50,269 --> 00:31:49,380
them but I'm trying to keep track of

807
00:31:52,190 --> 00:31:50,279
this stuff

808
00:31:54,350 --> 00:31:52,200
hi Joe did Eric Davis give classified

809
00:31:56,090 --> 00:31:54,360
briefings on retrievals of unexplained

810
00:31:58,850 --> 00:31:56,100
objects to staff members of the Senate

811
00:32:01,070 --> 00:31:58,860
arms as far as I know yes I mean the New

812
00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:01,080
York Times reported that and Chris

813
00:32:05,210 --> 00:32:02,880
Mellon basically confirmed that he was

814
00:32:06,649 --> 00:32:05,220
up on the hill Capitol Hill with Eric

815
00:32:08,510 --> 00:32:06,659
Davis because I've heard the quote so

816
00:32:10,909 --> 00:32:08,520
many times from melon when he was on the

817
00:32:14,029 --> 00:32:10,919
Michael schmercana show on CNN and he's

818
00:32:16,730 --> 00:32:14,039
like yeah you know he basically from

819
00:32:18,350 --> 00:32:16,740
what I understand and what melon said

820
00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:18,360
Eric Davis told him enough information

821
00:32:22,730 --> 00:32:20,760
that if they wanted to try to find out

822
00:32:25,070 --> 00:32:22,740
if these programs existed they had that

823
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:25,080
information and now as James Fox is

824
00:32:28,909 --> 00:32:27,360
saying yeah yeah now the Witnesses are

825
00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:28,919
going in there and saying here you go

826
00:32:34,370 --> 00:32:31,919
it's right here it's hidden here when I

827
00:32:34,909 --> 00:32:34,380
say hidden I mean paperwork wise

828
00:32:36,529 --> 00:32:34,919
um

829
00:32:38,570 --> 00:32:36,539
because these programs this program

830
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:38,580
alleged programs have been found before

831
00:32:43,490 --> 00:32:41,039
allegedly

832
00:32:46,430 --> 00:32:43,500
um basically Admiral Wilson was before

833
00:32:48,350 --> 00:32:46,440
Alma Wilson I think it was 77

834
00:32:49,730 --> 00:32:48,360
I forget the guy's name right off bat

835
00:32:51,409 --> 00:32:49,740
but they talked about it in loose

836
00:32:53,389 --> 00:32:51,419
threads they brought him up

837
00:32:56,510 --> 00:32:53,399
um and then in the Jacques valet

838
00:32:59,330 --> 00:32:56,520
Forbidden Science Volume 5 they talked

839
00:33:01,190 --> 00:32:59,340
about how in the 70s there was a guy who

840
00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:01,200
actually got access there was an audit

841
00:33:05,090 --> 00:33:02,640
going on which was mentioned in the

842
00:33:06,590 --> 00:33:05,100
Wilson Davis documents and there was a

843
00:33:08,389 --> 00:33:06,600
man who was allowed in and he actually

844
00:33:11,149 --> 00:33:08,399
saw do you remember it was General

845
00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:11,159
Sheehan and it was General John Jack

846
00:33:14,690 --> 00:33:13,200
Sheehan he was allowed in and he touched

847
00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:14,700
the Craft

848
00:33:20,509 --> 00:33:18,480
um allegedly that was 77 or 78 and then

849
00:33:23,690 --> 00:33:20,519
it wasn't found again until Avril Wilson

850
00:33:25,970 --> 00:33:23,700
found it allegedly and we got went there

851
00:33:27,470 --> 00:33:25,980
and they told him yes we're a retrieval

852
00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:27,480
crash retrieval program but we're not

853
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,260
going to let you in and now person X who

854
00:33:37,070 --> 00:33:33,840
I know who person X is supposedly I was

855
00:33:38,690 --> 00:33:37,080
told who person X is found it again not

856
00:33:40,730 --> 00:33:38,700
too long ago

857
00:33:46,190 --> 00:33:40,740
um and that was confirmed by another

858
00:33:48,769 --> 00:33:46,200
person who I apparently know or have met

859
00:33:50,450 --> 00:33:48,779
um so where was it going with this oh

860
00:33:52,970 --> 00:33:50,460
yeah so Davis so the information is

861
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:52,980
there and then James Fox Says yeah they

862
00:33:55,850 --> 00:33:54,240
know where to go you just have to give

863
00:33:57,289 --> 00:33:55,860
me the credentials to go and show you

864
00:33:59,330 --> 00:33:57,299
but that's the problem Mike that's the

865
00:34:00,769 --> 00:33:59,340
problem who has the credentials who's

866
00:34:02,750 --> 00:34:00,779
going to get the credentials to go in oh

867
00:34:04,549 --> 00:34:02,760
yeah here it is yeah we haven't seen it

868
00:34:06,649 --> 00:34:04,559
I haven't seen it they haven't seen it

869
00:34:09,050 --> 00:34:06,659
uh and is that credentials for the

870
00:34:11,329 --> 00:34:09,060
individual to get in who's leaking this

871
00:34:14,210 --> 00:34:11,339
info or communicating this info or is

872
00:34:16,909 --> 00:34:14,220
that a clearance to bring guests into

873
00:34:18,530 --> 00:34:16,919
the facility yeah because that too isn't

874
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:18,540
that two different things like yeah and

875
00:34:22,430 --> 00:34:19,919
you're gonna have to get credentials and

876
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:22,440
for both otherwise you know oh yeah I

877
00:34:25,550 --> 00:34:24,000
can go in but you can't but if they if

878
00:34:28,010 --> 00:34:25,560
they actually work in these programs are

879
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:28,020
in this facility daily it's really the

880
00:34:31,970 --> 00:34:30,480
clearance for the guests right right but

881
00:34:33,889 --> 00:34:31,980
it sounded like the person see that's

882
00:34:36,169 --> 00:34:33,899
what tells us that's what tells us the

883
00:34:37,609 --> 00:34:36,179
person James Fox was talking about was

884
00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:37,619
not a person who worked in the program

885
00:34:41,450 --> 00:34:39,359
because they said

886
00:34:43,730 --> 00:34:41,460
you know they're telling Congress it

887
00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:43,740
seems like hey I can I can show you

888
00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:46,560
where this is yeah but you need to get

889
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:50,159
me the clearance right the problem is

890
00:34:53,089 --> 00:34:51,599
what if they you know what if they do

891
00:34:54,349 --> 00:34:53,099
get Congress to clearance and this

892
00:34:56,210 --> 00:34:54,359
person gets clearance couple of

893
00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:56,220
Congressional members Rubio and Jilla

894
00:35:02,570 --> 00:34:58,560
Moran they go and it's not there

895
00:35:04,190 --> 00:35:02,580
it's like sorry it was here yesterday

896
00:35:05,930 --> 00:35:04,200
and then that you know we haven't talked

897
00:35:06,970 --> 00:35:05,940
up we haven't that would be that would

898
00:35:09,650 --> 00:35:06,980
be the end

899
00:35:13,069 --> 00:35:09,660
that would be a major problem if that

900
00:35:14,690 --> 00:35:13,079
happened if they moved it

901
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:14,700
I'm trying to see what other questions

902
00:35:21,410 --> 00:35:17,520
people have you know supposedly this is

903
00:35:23,390 --> 00:35:21,420
on C-Span I didn't find last night I was

904
00:35:25,970 --> 00:35:23,400
trying to find a C-SPAN link or or a

905
00:35:27,650 --> 00:35:25,980
schedule and I did not find it

906
00:35:30,650 --> 00:35:27,660
um

907
00:35:32,930 --> 00:35:30,660
yes yes yes we will be streaming it I

908
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:32,940
have I have the channel up and it's

909
00:35:35,930 --> 00:35:34,800
still going it's not hung up at all it's

910
00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:35,940
just

911
00:35:39,530 --> 00:35:38,160
I'll pull it up again so yes we will be

912
00:35:42,349 --> 00:35:39,540
streaming it and for the most part we'll

913
00:35:44,329 --> 00:35:42,359
just be sitting here watching with you

914
00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:44,339
guys and try to find places where we can

915
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:45,839
jump in I don't want to interfere with

916
00:35:48,829 --> 00:35:47,520
the with the hearing

917
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:48,839
um

918
00:35:52,730 --> 00:35:51,119
so when Mike when did you first get into

919
00:35:54,050 --> 00:35:52,740
the subject that's a lot of people don't

920
00:35:57,170 --> 00:35:54,060
I didn't even know that until you told

921
00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:57,180
me a couple of weeks oh when I was uh

922
00:36:02,270 --> 00:36:00,000
when I was a kid probably late 80s

923
00:36:05,210 --> 00:36:02,280
um I guess Unsolved Mysteries did it

924
00:36:08,030 --> 00:36:05,220
with Robert Stack in a trench coat what

925
00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:08,040
happened next was unbelievable oh my God

926
00:36:12,589 --> 00:36:10,079
that voice and once they learned the

927
00:36:14,990 --> 00:36:12,599
concept of alien abductions I couldn't

928
00:36:17,089 --> 00:36:15,000
sleep at night I was scared

929
00:36:19,790 --> 00:36:17,099
um and that's when I really got in to

930
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:19,800
the topic I've never had an experience

931
00:36:23,930 --> 00:36:22,079
I've never seen a UFO nothing strange

932
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:23,940
has ever happened to me in my entire

933
00:36:28,490 --> 00:36:26,880
life I'm not 31 years old nothing not

934
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:28,500
even precognitive dreams or anything

935
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,960
like that nope nope haven't even haven't

936
00:36:34,609 --> 00:36:32,640
been gone

937
00:36:38,450 --> 00:36:34,619
I don't know and I haven't been called

938
00:36:40,849 --> 00:36:38,460
for jury duty uh nothing

939
00:36:43,730 --> 00:36:40,859
jeez I did not know that

940
00:36:45,290 --> 00:36:43,740
um I want to see so many uh so I guess I

941
00:36:46,849 --> 00:36:45,300
I guess I'm odd in that way because

942
00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:46,859
there's most people on you for Twitter

943
00:36:50,510 --> 00:36:48,720
are either like hardcore Skeptics or

944
00:36:52,849 --> 00:36:50,520
like something's happened to them yeah

945
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:52,859
and they know and they know but me I I

946
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:56,400
think I I think some people are telling

947
00:36:58,970 --> 00:36:58,079
the truth about their stories that makes

948
00:37:00,410 --> 00:36:58,980
sense

949
00:37:02,210 --> 00:37:00,420
I agree

950
00:37:05,150 --> 00:37:02,220
um my my thing was I read Whitley

951
00:37:06,650 --> 00:37:05,160
schreiber's communion in 96 or 97 and

952
00:37:08,329 --> 00:37:06,660
then I woke up on the couch after

953
00:37:09,950 --> 00:37:08,339
starting to read it and I couldn't move

954
00:37:11,810 --> 00:37:09,960
I was paralyzed

955
00:37:14,210 --> 00:37:11,820
I was vibrating and I'm like oh my God

956
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:14,220
the aliens are coming to take me and it

957
00:37:17,870 --> 00:37:15,839
probably just was sleep paralysis

958
00:37:19,970 --> 00:37:17,880
related to out-of-body experiences or

959
00:37:21,530 --> 00:37:19,980
just physical sleep paralysis if you

960
00:37:22,970 --> 00:37:21,540
don't believe in that but anyway that

961
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:22,980
got me going down the path but I had

962
00:37:26,750 --> 00:37:25,200
interest I had some interest before I

963
00:37:28,010 --> 00:37:26,760
saw Close Encounters in the theater when

964
00:37:29,930 --> 00:37:28,020
I was younger and I had some

965
00:37:32,089 --> 00:37:29,940
precognitive dreams about

966
00:37:34,190 --> 00:37:32,099
like in seventh or eighth grade this

967
00:37:35,690 --> 00:37:34,200
girl had a big crush on she I had a

968
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:35,700
dream her mom died and then the next day

969
00:37:39,470 --> 00:37:37,680
I came in her mom had died and I knew

970
00:37:41,690 --> 00:37:39,480
nothing about her family but back then I

971
00:37:43,550 --> 00:37:41,700
didn't even I didn't even think wow that

972
00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:43,560
was precognitive I didn't I didn't think

973
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:46,260
anything of it oh well that's

974
00:37:50,329 --> 00:37:48,960
interesting yeah but yeah during your

975
00:37:52,130 --> 00:37:50,339
sleep paralysis you didn't see anything

976
00:37:53,210 --> 00:37:52,140
like any shadow figures I didn't see

977
00:37:55,069 --> 00:37:53,220
anything

978
00:37:57,410 --> 00:37:55,079
um I couldn't move it was vibrating I

979
00:37:59,390 --> 00:37:57,420
heard a hype well more I was heard a

980
00:38:03,290 --> 00:37:59,400
high pitch in my ear

981
00:38:04,730 --> 00:38:03,300
um but once once I struggled out of it I

982
00:38:07,010 --> 00:38:04,740
the next morning I'm like you know what

983
00:38:08,810 --> 00:38:07,020
I had decided before that happened it's

984
00:38:10,490 --> 00:38:08,820
kind of interesting I had decided not to

985
00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:10,500
read the rest of communion because it

986
00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:12,300
was too scary I'm like I was living

987
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:16,079
alone this was yeah I was like

988
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:19,140
do I really want to read this

989
00:38:21,950 --> 00:38:20,880
um no I don't want to read this because

990
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:21,960
I didn't realize what it was about

991
00:38:26,450 --> 00:38:24,480
exactly and then so that happened and

992
00:38:27,770 --> 00:38:26,460
then I'm like you know I broke out of

993
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:27,780
the sleep paralysis the next day I'm

994
00:38:31,250 --> 00:38:29,760
like I'm gonna take that as a sign to

995
00:38:33,710 --> 00:38:31,260
finish reading communion and then I read

996
00:38:35,329 --> 00:38:33,720
it and I loved it and I just started

997
00:38:36,890 --> 00:38:35,339
buying books all of his other books and

998
00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:36,900
every other New Age books and channel

999
00:38:42,410 --> 00:38:39,119
and channeled books and just I had no

1000
00:38:44,750 --> 00:38:42,420
filter whatsoever really naive I just

1001
00:38:46,190 --> 00:38:44,760
bought into everything but it was good

1002
00:38:49,010 --> 00:38:46,200
because then later on it was helped me

1003
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:49,020
help me develop some discernment which

1004
00:38:52,190 --> 00:38:50,400
some people would argue I still don't

1005
00:38:55,130 --> 00:38:52,200
have

1006
00:38:57,770 --> 00:38:55,140
no I didn't agree with that

1007
00:38:59,390 --> 00:38:57,780
I went at the end of that I was just no

1008
00:39:01,370 --> 00:38:59,400
I'm just saying some people would so

1009
00:39:03,170 --> 00:39:01,380
some people would say that that I'm I

1010
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:03,180
believe everything which I don't I'm

1011
00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:05,280
okay I tweet that all the time I like

1012
00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:07,260
Joe merger believes everything it's

1013
00:39:11,450 --> 00:39:09,599
hidden you don't see it our friend

1014
00:39:13,310 --> 00:39:11,460
Charlie has said that about me before

1015
00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:13,320
I'm like uh I don't believe oh yeah

1016
00:39:17,569 --> 00:39:15,599
Charlie yeah I pissed him off this

1017
00:39:20,270 --> 00:39:17,579
morning or he's upset with me

1018
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:20,280
because Jeremy Corbell tweeted me he's

1019
00:39:25,130 --> 00:39:22,320
like you're part of the cult now he says

1020
00:39:27,410 --> 00:39:25,140
I saw Jeremy retweet you that was good

1021
00:39:28,910 --> 00:39:27,420
yeah I don't know if he's mad that I

1022
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:28,920
shared too many Clips or whatever he's

1023
00:39:33,170 --> 00:39:31,200
happy I can't tell that's by the way

1024
00:39:34,370 --> 00:39:33,180
follow follow Mike

1025
00:39:36,290 --> 00:39:34,380
um you should have like turn your

1026
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:36,300
handles on my name I should see it below

1027
00:39:40,490 --> 00:39:38,640
my name maybe not it'll be there when I

1028
00:39:42,829 --> 00:39:40,500
pull this down but he if you want to

1029
00:39:45,050 --> 00:39:42,839
stay up to date on all the videos

1030
00:39:46,370 --> 00:39:45,060
and it's not just a video guy Mike has

1031
00:39:49,069 --> 00:39:46,380
really good takes

1032
00:39:50,050 --> 00:39:49,079
um and we talk privately about stuff

1033
00:39:52,130 --> 00:39:50,060
yeah

1034
00:39:53,569 --> 00:39:52,140
doubt yourself and just think you're an

1035
00:39:55,550 --> 00:39:53,579
editor and somebody else called you an

1036
00:39:58,550 --> 00:39:55,560
editor which is they don't know you so

1037
00:40:01,250 --> 00:39:58,560
you do yeah but I don't understand

1038
00:40:03,470 --> 00:40:01,260
yourself okay Wilson didn't just find

1039
00:40:05,810 --> 00:40:03,480
the find the projects Dr Steven Greer is

1040
00:40:08,030 --> 00:40:05,820
the one who briefed him on the names of

1041
00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:08,040
the usaps and the locations except I

1042
00:40:11,569 --> 00:40:10,079
found I didn't find but somebody told me

1043
00:40:15,170 --> 00:40:11,579
that that information that Greer

1044
00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:15,180
provided him was not used in finding the

1045
00:40:19,130 --> 00:40:17,520
programs or program

1046
00:40:21,050 --> 00:40:19,140
and if you read the Wilson Davis

1047
00:40:25,490 --> 00:40:21,060
documents there's not one mention of

1048
00:40:27,710 --> 00:40:25,500
Greer those nro that nro document that

1049
00:40:30,290 --> 00:40:27,720
yeah that John Greenwald has made a big

1050
00:40:32,210 --> 00:40:30,300
deal about and thinks that I have now

1051
00:40:33,950 --> 00:40:32,220
you know he says it's fake and now I'm

1052
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:33,960
disowning I'm like I never made a big

1053
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:35,760
deal about that nro document I thought

1054
00:40:39,650 --> 00:40:37,200
it played a role but I was told it

1055
00:40:41,450 --> 00:40:39,660
played no role in Wilson going to look

1056
00:40:42,770 --> 00:40:41,460
for this program and then finding it

1057
00:40:44,510 --> 00:40:42,780
it's just

1058
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:44,520
it doesn't if he found the program

1059
00:40:49,730 --> 00:40:46,560
that's really all that matters

1060
00:40:52,190 --> 00:40:49,740
um I mean I like details too I mean I

1061
00:40:53,630 --> 00:40:52,200
love details and I don't wanna if if I

1062
00:40:55,609 --> 00:40:53,640
was wrong about something I will say and

1063
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:55,619
I was wrong about giving if if the

1064
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:57,119
person who told me that is right I was

1065
00:41:02,510 --> 00:40:59,040
wrong about giving Greer credit for that

1066
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:02,520
but I'll give I'll give girl 100 credit

1067
00:41:06,770 --> 00:41:04,560
forgetting that you know will Miller

1068
00:41:09,410 --> 00:41:06,780
helped set up the briefing in 97 it was

1069
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:09,420
in April and Greer was part of that

1070
00:41:14,030 --> 00:41:11,760
briefing uh with Edgar Mitchell and

1071
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:14,040
Sherry adamiak who was Greer's assistant

1072
00:41:18,650 --> 00:41:16,079
and there was another guy Stephen Lufkin

1073
00:41:20,810 --> 00:41:18,660
who was allegedly a Roswell era witness

1074
00:41:22,510 --> 00:41:20,820
so that happened and then Greer put out

1075
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:22,520
Wilson's name in

1076
00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:26,160
September 12 2011 so the day after 9 11

1077
00:41:29,930 --> 00:41:28,079
he was in Oregon and he spoke about it

1078
00:41:31,870 --> 00:41:29,940
and he mentioned Tom Wilson so give

1079
00:41:34,670 --> 00:41:31,880
credit to Greer for outing Wilson

1080
00:41:36,109 --> 00:41:34,680
because and same thing with valet I know

1081
00:41:37,790 --> 00:41:36,119
there's stuff in valet's book that has

1082
00:41:39,290 --> 00:41:37,800
not made some p is made some people

1083
00:41:42,770 --> 00:41:39,300
unhappy that he's sharing that

1084
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:42,780
information yeah but it's time it's like

1085
00:41:46,609 --> 00:41:44,880
how long how much longer are we to wait

1086
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:46,619
share what's out there let people know

1087
00:41:50,569 --> 00:41:48,960
what the hell's going on you know if

1088
00:41:51,890 --> 00:41:50,579
it's not classified

1089
00:41:53,150 --> 00:41:51,900
because I've had people share

1090
00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:53,160
information with me that's not

1091
00:41:56,329 --> 00:41:54,900
classified obviously nobody shares

1092
00:41:58,370 --> 00:41:56,339
classified information with me but

1093
00:42:00,410 --> 00:41:58,380
they'll share stuff that's sensitive and

1094
00:42:01,849 --> 00:42:00,420
then they'll say you can't share this

1095
00:42:03,710 --> 00:42:01,859
I'm like

1096
00:42:06,650 --> 00:42:03,720
it's the problem with the entire topic

1097
00:42:08,510 --> 00:42:06,660
yeah everyone's got Secrets uh because

1098
00:42:10,250 --> 00:42:08,520
they don't want to show their cards

1099
00:42:11,329 --> 00:42:10,260
yeah it sucks I mean I'm at the point

1100
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:11,339
right now

1101
00:42:14,750 --> 00:42:13,440
um I don't even I don't even you know

1102
00:42:16,010 --> 00:42:14,760
you you know this stuff going on the

1103
00:42:17,810 --> 00:42:16,020
behind the scenes I don't even want

1104
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:17,820
sources it's like

1105
00:42:20,810 --> 00:42:19,680
I almost feel like sometimes sources

1106
00:42:23,930 --> 00:42:20,820
think

1107
00:42:25,370 --> 00:42:23,940
that if they give you information that

1108
00:42:27,710 --> 00:42:25,380
you kind of owe them and I don't want to

1109
00:42:30,589 --> 00:42:27,720
be in that position I don't I don't I

1110
00:42:32,089 --> 00:42:30,599
mean I like doing this I like commenting

1111
00:42:34,310 --> 00:42:32,099
on videos other interviews I do like

1112
00:42:36,290 --> 00:42:34,320
doing I do like doing interviews with

1113
00:42:38,270 --> 00:42:36,300
people but if my comments are going to

1114
00:42:39,530 --> 00:42:38,280
piss them off because I say something

1115
00:42:41,930 --> 00:42:39,540
critical and they're not going to give

1116
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:41,940
me an interview oh well I don't want to

1117
00:42:45,950 --> 00:42:43,920
do that I don't have to kiss but

1118
00:42:47,870 --> 00:42:45,960
and not say something that's on my mind

1119
00:42:49,550 --> 00:42:47,880
but I've been like this and since the

1120
00:42:51,290 --> 00:42:49,560
day since the day I started I usually

1121
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:51,300
don't bite my tongue which gets me in

1122
00:42:54,890 --> 00:42:53,280
trouble with some people but you know no

1123
00:42:57,410 --> 00:42:54,900
you know sometimes you should but you

1124
00:43:00,470 --> 00:42:57,420
don't you don't no I don't I mean there

1125
00:43:02,210 --> 00:43:00,480
are some go for it I'm kidding no it's

1126
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:02,220
you know it's true somebody's somebody

1127
00:43:05,870 --> 00:43:03,839
who's mad at me yesterday

1128
00:43:08,569 --> 00:43:05,880
um and blocked me and they said you have

1129
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:08,579
no filter I do have a filter it's just a

1130
00:43:13,370 --> 00:43:12,000
very small Stephen Bassett he did it did

1131
00:43:15,290 --> 00:43:13,380
he block you

1132
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:15,300
no I told you it did I don't wanna I

1133
00:43:18,650 --> 00:43:16,800
don't want to bring his name up

1134
00:43:20,930 --> 00:43:18,660
um I think I told you

1135
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:20,940
I'll tell you later it's not important

1136
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:23,760
um I don't want to call that person out

1137
00:43:28,329 --> 00:43:26,880
but yeah it was Steve Bassett Steve

1138
00:43:30,829 --> 00:43:28,339
Bassett has been

1139
00:43:32,690 --> 00:43:30,839
now Steve Bassett I know he's on another

1140
00:43:34,270 --> 00:43:32,700
stream today

1141
00:43:36,349 --> 00:43:34,280
um

1142
00:43:37,970 --> 00:43:36,359
I started going to conferences in the

1143
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:37,980
mid 90s and Steve Bassett was predicting

1144
00:43:43,490 --> 00:43:41,040
disclosure imminent back then yeah yeah

1145
00:43:45,890 --> 00:43:43,500
So eventually he's gonna be right

1146
00:43:47,630 --> 00:43:45,900
um yeah so I kind of lost you know I

1147
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:47,640
started stop paying attention to those

1148
00:43:51,349 --> 00:43:49,200
predictions

1149
00:43:53,210 --> 00:43:51,359
um but like for five seconds when he

1150
00:43:55,849 --> 00:43:53,220
when he talks I fall for it for five

1151
00:43:58,250 --> 00:43:55,859
seconds I'm like oh he is right he's

1152
00:44:00,770 --> 00:43:58,260
making sense yeah he is

1153
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:00,780
for five seconds still it is I don't

1154
00:44:05,030 --> 00:44:02,640
think he's a bad guy it's just you know

1155
00:44:07,609 --> 00:44:05,040
it's like he's like he had a super super

1156
00:44:09,770 --> 00:44:07,619
optimistic about it that's all yeah yeah

1157
00:44:12,349 --> 00:44:09,780
um he had a conference back in the day

1158
00:44:13,490 --> 00:44:12,359
that I think it was called the X it

1159
00:44:15,170 --> 00:44:13,500
might have been

1160
00:44:16,730 --> 00:44:15,180
I'm not sure if it's the X conference

1161
00:44:18,109 --> 00:44:16,740
but it was in right outside of

1162
00:44:20,089 --> 00:44:18,119
Washington I was living in New York

1163
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:20,099
living in New York at the time so if I

1164
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:21,599
was living in New York now I would

1165
00:44:26,990 --> 00:44:24,000
definitely try to go this hearing

1166
00:44:28,970 --> 00:44:27,000
um I saw one guy alien scientist you

1167
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:28,980
know Jeremy I forget his name he is

1168
00:44:33,410 --> 00:44:31,920
there today and hey Luke over there hey

1169
00:44:34,970 --> 00:44:33,420
Luke oh yeah that's right I saw him cut

1170
00:44:35,809 --> 00:44:34,980
pop up too I'm not sure it would be

1171
00:44:37,370 --> 00:44:35,819
great if they were able to take

1172
00:44:38,750 --> 00:44:37,380
questions from the like at a city

1173
00:44:40,490 --> 00:44:38,760
council meeting you have three minutes

1174
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:40,500
to ask a question that's the way it

1175
00:44:56,530 --> 00:44:42,960
should be yeah give the crap give the

1176
00:45:00,530 --> 00:44:59,030
it would be nice if they pay into the

1177
00:45:03,950 --> 00:45:00,540
crowd and you see Timber chat you see

1178
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:03,960
Lou Elizondo Chris melon yeah um Chris

1179
00:45:07,370 --> 00:45:05,760
Mellon has suggested some questions for

1180
00:45:09,530 --> 00:45:07,380
today and as other people

1181
00:45:11,210 --> 00:45:09,540
have pointed out why is he not telling

1182
00:45:13,190 --> 00:45:11,220
him to ask about Crash retrievals it's

1183
00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:13,200
like why we I don't understand why we're

1184
00:45:17,450 --> 00:45:15,119
being you know it's like handling with

1185
00:45:20,809 --> 00:45:17,460
kid gloves talk about what allegedly

1186
00:45:22,910 --> 00:45:20,819
exists and the witnesses that's yeah you

1187
00:45:25,490 --> 00:45:22,920
know sightings are great close-up

1188
00:45:27,650 --> 00:45:25,500
sightings 23 minute video amazing but

1189
00:45:30,890 --> 00:45:27,660
crash retrievals if we have partially

1190
00:45:33,290 --> 00:45:30,900
intact craft or intact craft it's game

1191
00:45:35,690 --> 00:45:33,300
over if we have bodies and they say

1192
00:45:37,309 --> 00:45:35,700
these are not humans that we know of

1193
00:45:38,809 --> 00:45:37,319
maybe they're future humans I don't know

1194
00:45:41,150 --> 00:45:38,819
by the way earlier I mentioned time

1195
00:45:43,870 --> 00:45:41,160
travel I was kidding around with Jay

1196
00:45:46,670 --> 00:45:43,880
King saying something about a timeline

1197
00:45:48,410 --> 00:45:46,680
he wasn't referring to time travel I was

1198
00:45:49,309 --> 00:45:48,420
just making a joke

1199
00:45:51,290 --> 00:45:49,319
um

1200
00:45:53,089 --> 00:45:51,300
Steve

1201
00:45:55,609 --> 00:45:53,099
Stephen Bassett is the single most

1202
00:45:57,470 --> 00:45:55,619
optimistic evil person he is that's a

1203
00:45:58,730 --> 00:45:57,480
really nice way of saying it

1204
00:46:03,410 --> 00:45:58,740
yes

1205
00:46:05,329 --> 00:46:03,420
send the document but my source good

1206
00:46:06,650 --> 00:46:05,339
source told me that they did not use the

1207
00:46:10,010 --> 00:46:06,660
document

1208
00:46:11,930 --> 00:46:10,020
to find the programs and if you look at

1209
00:46:14,150 --> 00:46:11,940
Wilson Davis there's no mention of that

1210
00:46:17,329 --> 00:46:14,160
document whatever even if all right

1211
00:46:19,010 --> 00:46:17,339
let's say We'll let's say Greer did

1212
00:46:20,270 --> 00:46:19,020
give him the document all right credit

1213
00:46:21,650 --> 00:46:20,280
to him I'm just telling you my

1214
00:46:23,210 --> 00:46:21,660
information says no but I'm not gonna

1215
00:46:24,530 --> 00:46:23,220
I'm not gonna get on Greer because of

1216
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:24,540
that I'll get on Greer because other

1217
00:46:30,530 --> 00:46:27,359
stuff but not that do you know Dino

1218
00:46:32,030 --> 00:46:30,540
Greer's Uncle helped build the the lunar

1219
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:32,040
Landmark that got men do you know that

1220
00:46:35,809 --> 00:46:33,839
and then he's eight percent Cherokee I

1221
00:46:38,270 --> 00:46:35,819
bet you didn't know that no but I know

1222
00:46:40,809 --> 00:46:38,280
that he's a small town emergency room

1223
00:46:42,829 --> 00:46:40,819
doctor from North Carolina that's right

1224
00:46:45,050 --> 00:46:42,839
what does this person say you could say

1225
00:46:47,450 --> 00:46:45,060
without whatever you want about Greer

1226
00:46:49,130 --> 00:46:47,460
but I know he's legit and I work almost

1227
00:46:50,750 --> 00:46:49,140
30 years on the subject without hyping

1228
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:50,760
everything this guy's smart and have a

1229
00:46:55,550 --> 00:46:54,240
plan yeah I think Greer is very smart

1230
00:46:56,930 --> 00:46:55,560
um there's a lot of stuff I disagree

1231
00:46:58,490 --> 00:46:56,940
with him on

1232
00:47:01,670 --> 00:46:58,500
yeah

1233
00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:02,870
don't throw the baby out with the

1234
00:47:07,790 --> 00:47:06,000
bathwater no no he has some good stuff I

1235
00:47:09,470 --> 00:47:07,800
don't I definitely do not reject things

1236
00:47:10,730 --> 00:47:09,480
when I hear Greer said it I want to hear

1237
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:10,740
what he said before one of the most

1238
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,960
important things I heard him say and I

1239
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:14,640
don't think he was making this up but I

1240
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:17,520
don't know he said he goes Danish who

1241
00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:20,640
represents Luella zondo uh Danish came

1242
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:22,800
to me and said that Luella zando had

1243
00:47:27,890 --> 00:47:26,400
seen a non-human craft in the government

1244
00:47:31,849 --> 00:47:27,900
facility

1245
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:31,859
and and then I asked Sheehan about that

1246
00:47:35,870 --> 00:47:34,079
at one of the conferences the the when

1247
00:47:38,930 --> 00:47:35,880
down in Laughlin it's like an hour and a

1248
00:47:40,970 --> 00:47:38,940
half from here at the Megacon UFO

1249
00:47:42,290 --> 00:47:40,980
Megacon conference I watched Mike I

1250
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:42,300
forgot to pay attention the hearing's

1251
00:47:45,410 --> 00:47:43,920
been going on for a half an hour no I'm

1252
00:47:47,630 --> 00:47:45,420
just kidding

1253
00:47:49,069 --> 00:47:47,640
actually I got a twin I got a twinkle so

1254
00:47:52,490 --> 00:47:49,079
I'm just gonna turn my camera off and my

1255
00:47:56,750 --> 00:47:52,500
mic and I'll be right back all right

1256
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:56,760
so so I went to um Laughlin and dating

1257
00:47:59,809 --> 00:47:58,319
Sheen that spoke on a panel and he

1258
00:48:03,470 --> 00:47:59,819
lectured and then afterwards I said to

1259
00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:03,480
him so um supposedly Steven Greer told

1260
00:48:08,930 --> 00:48:06,000
you that Lou Elizondo was in a

1261
00:48:10,490 --> 00:48:08,940
government facility and he saw a craft

1262
00:48:12,349 --> 00:48:10,500
and she and it's like I really don't

1263
00:48:14,510 --> 00:48:12,359
want to get into that that's just a just

1264
00:48:18,650 --> 00:48:14,520
to rile things up it's just not not

1265
00:48:20,690 --> 00:48:18,660
really it's not helpful so and I think

1266
00:48:23,329 --> 00:48:20,700
Lou may have seen a craft but and then

1267
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:23,339
Lou denied stuff or or Sean denied stuff

1268
00:48:28,010 --> 00:48:25,920
Sean Cahill but I think at that point

1269
00:48:29,870 --> 00:48:28,020
lose clearance was supposedly a little

1270
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:29,880
iffy and he was worried so not that

1271
00:48:34,130 --> 00:48:31,920
Lou's gonna admit that

1272
00:48:35,930 --> 00:48:34,140
um we'll find out one day maybe a little

1273
00:48:39,069 --> 00:48:35,940
bit maybe it'll be in his book probably

1274
00:48:42,109 --> 00:48:39,079
not if that happened it's funny that

1275
00:48:43,970 --> 00:48:42,119
Danny Sheen if he found out from Lou and

1276
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,980
then Danny ran to Greer and said you're

1277
00:48:48,170 --> 00:48:45,359
not going to believe what I heard Lou

1278
00:48:50,210 --> 00:48:48,180
was in a facility he saw a craft

1279
00:48:51,890 --> 00:48:50,220
um be careful what you tell Danny Sheen

1280
00:48:53,630 --> 00:48:51,900
but I'm glad she and sharing because we

1281
00:48:55,069 --> 00:48:53,640
all deserve to know that information I

1282
00:48:57,230 --> 00:48:55,079
don't think Lou takes it personally ever

1283
00:48:58,609 --> 00:48:57,240
I think Lou realizes we all have

1284
00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:58,619
questions and we should ask whatever

1285
00:49:03,470 --> 00:49:00,960
question we want

1286
00:49:06,410 --> 00:49:03,480
um yeah I remember Daryl Sims on the

1287
00:49:08,030 --> 00:49:06,420
scene a long time ago using I think he

1288
00:49:09,470 --> 00:49:08,040
was using

1289
00:49:12,290 --> 00:49:09,480
what is that

1290
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:12,300
um a black light to see certain marks on

1291
00:49:16,430 --> 00:49:13,920
abductees but I haven't heard from him

1292
00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:16,440
and heard from him in a while my views

1293
00:49:22,490 --> 00:49:19,920
on Bob Lazar I I did a Blog on ufojo.net

1294
00:49:25,309 --> 00:49:22,500
if you search Lazar you'll find it I was

1295
00:49:27,710 --> 00:49:25,319
50 50 in that blog I'm still 50 50. Eric

1296
00:49:29,809 --> 00:49:27,720
Davis thinks he's a liar

1297
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:29,819
um other people think he's a liar George

1298
00:49:34,430 --> 00:49:32,160
Knapp and and Corbell believe him other

1299
00:49:35,809 --> 00:49:34,440
people believe him if you ask ufology it

1300
00:49:38,210 --> 00:49:35,819
just brings out everybody from both

1301
00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:38,220
sides and they'll yell at you from both

1302
00:49:41,390 --> 00:49:39,599
sides and so I don't really bring it up

1303
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:41,400
too much

1304
00:49:49,849 --> 00:49:44,400
um so I don't know maybe let him testify

1305
00:49:54,170 --> 00:49:51,950
will Kirkpatrick also see documents

1306
00:49:55,970 --> 00:49:54,180
about Roswell I would think I don't know

1307
00:49:57,890 --> 00:49:55,980
what kind of clearances he has I mean

1308
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:57,900
Travis Taylor

1309
00:50:02,809 --> 00:50:00,720
during the alien con interview that NAB

1310
00:50:06,829 --> 00:50:02,819
did with Taylor and Jay Stratton who ran

1311
00:50:09,170 --> 00:50:06,839
the UAP task force said that

1312
00:50:11,150 --> 00:50:09,180
the person who replaced Jay Stratton and

1313
00:50:13,069 --> 00:50:11,160
Jay Stratton was the civilian equivalent

1314
00:50:14,809 --> 00:50:13,079
of a two-star Admiral he was getting

1315
00:50:16,250 --> 00:50:14,819
things done he had access to certain

1316
00:50:19,130 --> 00:50:16,260
things that most people

1317
00:50:20,930 --> 00:50:19,140
not at his level don't have um

1318
00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:20,940
he said the person who replaced Stratton

1319
00:50:26,030 --> 00:50:23,760
was like a full bird colonel a lot lower

1320
00:50:28,010 --> 00:50:26,040
um I don't know what Kirkpatrick's level

1321
00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:28,020
of clearance is I don't I don't know any

1322
00:50:32,690 --> 00:50:30,720
of that so I don't know if you know

1323
00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:32,700
there's been Facebook tweets where Eric

1324
00:50:37,130 --> 00:50:34,319
Davis talks about certain documents in

1325
00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:37,140
Roswell and Eric Davis had access and

1326
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:39,119
interest that's the two things if you're

1327
00:50:42,650 --> 00:50:41,040
interested in the UFO subject and you

1328
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:42,660
have access with certain clearances you

1329
00:50:47,150 --> 00:50:45,359
can go look most people don't look I

1330
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:47,160
think Eric Davis is one that looked can

1331
00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:48,960
Kirkpatrick see those same documents I

1332
00:50:57,230 --> 00:50:56,450
yeah

1333
00:50:59,930 --> 00:50:57,240
um

1334
00:51:03,710 --> 00:50:59,940
they're very very controversial

1335
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:03,720
especially Jeremy um but I know they

1336
00:51:07,490 --> 00:51:05,280
have spoken to Witnesses if they say

1337
00:51:08,690 --> 00:51:07,500
they've spoken to Witnesses then I would

1338
00:51:09,950 --> 00:51:08,700
believe them

1339
00:51:12,650 --> 00:51:09,960
um

1340
00:51:13,790 --> 00:51:12,660
I met my own Witnesses I talked about

1341
00:51:15,349 --> 00:51:13,800
this I don't know if I've talked about

1342
00:51:18,170 --> 00:51:15,359
this on YouTube

1343
00:51:19,309 --> 00:51:18,180
but I met one of the whistleblowers uh

1344
00:51:21,470 --> 00:51:19,319
Last Summer

1345
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:21,480
at the time I met them I did not know

1346
00:51:26,329 --> 00:51:23,760
they were a whistleblower I later found

1347
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:26,339
out very sharp person

1348
00:51:29,809 --> 00:51:27,839
um they told me you know what groups

1349
00:51:31,790 --> 00:51:29,819
they thought were trying to keep

1350
00:51:34,670 --> 00:51:31,800
disclosure from taking place Chris thank

1351
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:36,890
if roswell's brought up as an event that

1352
00:51:47,329 --> 00:51:44,930
you would think it is newsworthy

1353
00:51:49,910 --> 00:51:47,339
you still there Mike yeah yeah I think

1354
00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:49,920
so obviously if that's brought up today

1355
00:51:53,870 --> 00:51:52,559
I hope it is I don't expect it but you

1356
00:51:55,490 --> 00:51:53,880
would think the media would be all over

1357
00:51:56,450 --> 00:51:55,500
it I mean the media coverage has been

1358
00:51:58,010 --> 00:51:56,460
really

1359
00:52:00,049 --> 00:51:58,020
I mean we saw

1360
00:52:01,910 --> 00:52:00,059
Brandon Frugal and Travis Taylor

1361
00:52:03,470 --> 00:52:01,920
interviewed was it ABC they interviewed

1362
00:52:05,930 --> 00:52:03,480
them

1363
00:52:07,130 --> 00:52:05,940
it was one of the networks so you know

1364
00:52:09,170 --> 00:52:07,140
we're getting coverage but we've gotten

1365
00:52:11,329 --> 00:52:09,180
coverage before so

1366
00:52:13,250 --> 00:52:11,339
I really don't think there was more

1367
00:52:14,329 --> 00:52:13,260
coverage in the last hearing we're

1368
00:52:16,490 --> 00:52:14,339
talking about coverage and hearings

1369
00:52:22,370 --> 00:52:16,500
right definitely yeah I think there's

1370
00:52:28,370 --> 00:52:26,030
yeah generally rise or Reese

1371
00:52:31,130 --> 00:52:28,380
um he is really anti-lazar he's also

1372
00:52:32,990 --> 00:52:31,140
really anti-corbel um he made a comment

1373
00:52:34,849 --> 00:52:33,000
on Twitter that Jeremy Corbell must be

1374
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:34,859
working for the intelligence agencies I

1375
00:52:39,890 --> 00:52:37,440
think he said CIA because how else how

1376
00:52:41,930 --> 00:52:39,900
else can Jeremy Florida's equipment that

1377
00:52:43,370 --> 00:52:41,940
was a comment that this Jeremy rise made

1378
00:52:45,230 --> 00:52:43,380
so I'm like all right

1379
00:52:46,670 --> 00:52:45,240
that's strike one that's just not

1380
00:52:48,589 --> 00:52:46,680
credible because Jeremy's equipment

1381
00:52:50,450 --> 00:52:48,599
wasn't expensive um and then he said

1382
00:52:52,430 --> 00:52:50,460
that Jeremy um

1383
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:52,440
what else did oh he's predicted Jeremy

1384
00:52:56,569 --> 00:52:54,240
rise predicted you know how to say his

1385
00:52:58,190 --> 00:52:56,579
name Rhys might be I think I think it's

1386
00:53:01,190 --> 00:52:58,200
rise but I just say alien scientists

1387
00:53:03,410 --> 00:53:01,200
alien scientist Jeremy um said that he

1388
00:53:04,730 --> 00:53:03,420
made some prediction about some I don't

1389
00:53:06,170 --> 00:53:04,740
know if it was nuclear but some major

1390
00:53:08,089 --> 00:53:06,180
event you need to get water and food

1391
00:53:09,770 --> 00:53:08,099
make sure you get it it's coming and of

1392
00:53:12,349 --> 00:53:09,780
course it didn't come and then he said I

1393
00:53:14,270 --> 00:53:12,359
was just joking so credibility wise but

1394
00:53:19,010 --> 00:53:14,280
I don't know what he said I can't follow

1395
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:19,020
every podcast Mike Mike does probably a

1396
00:53:24,290 --> 00:53:20,880
lot of them a lot more I did I didn't

1397
00:53:26,210 --> 00:53:24,300
watch he's been on uh what's Eric want

1398
00:53:27,950 --> 00:53:26,220
Bert Weinstein Bert Weinstein Eric

1399
00:53:32,930 --> 00:53:27,960
Weinstein

1400
00:53:35,150 --> 00:53:32,940
don't know Bert Hey Bert I don't know

1401
00:53:37,010 --> 00:53:35,160
anyways he was on Jeremy alien scientist

1402
00:53:39,650 --> 00:53:37,020
was on his podcast I think it's Bert

1403
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:39,660
Weinstein and then he was on the one

1404
00:53:45,230 --> 00:53:42,240
that they're just talking about concrete

1405
00:53:46,930 --> 00:53:45,240
uh okay yeah I didn't watch either I

1406
00:53:49,730 --> 00:53:46,940
didn't watch it

1407
00:53:50,930 --> 00:53:49,740
bring no value too much stuff I mean

1408
00:53:52,190 --> 00:53:50,940
it's a good thing that there's that much

1409
00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:52,200
stuff but it's really hard to keep up

1410
00:53:55,309 --> 00:53:53,760
and if you're working jobs like we do

1411
00:53:57,530 --> 00:53:55,319
it's even harder you do an amazing job

1412
00:54:00,109 --> 00:53:57,540
of keeping up I I can't do as much you

1413
00:54:01,790 --> 00:54:00,119
watch a lot I do get burned out of times

1414
00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:01,800
too I'm like all right because I watch

1415
00:54:05,990 --> 00:54:03,839
it at two times speed Joe I watched it

1416
00:54:07,609 --> 00:54:06,000
two times speed is that what you do yeah

1417
00:54:09,890 --> 00:54:07,619
I could do it with everyone but Grant

1418
00:54:12,349 --> 00:54:09,900
Cameron and Eric Davis because they talk

1419
00:54:13,609 --> 00:54:12,359
too fast I can't understand Cameron

1420
00:54:15,670 --> 00:54:13,619
Grand Cameron here we're gonna talk

1421
00:54:17,390 --> 00:54:15,680
about disclosure yeah

1422
00:54:19,370 --> 00:54:17,400
Consciousness it's about Consciousness

1423
00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:19,380
conscious about Consciousness alien

1424
00:54:24,290 --> 00:54:21,599
Winnipeg

1425
00:54:26,030 --> 00:54:24,300
yeah do you think there are do you think

1426
00:54:27,710 --> 00:54:26,040
do you think I was on Grant Cameron's

1427
00:54:29,030 --> 00:54:27,720
show and we got into an argument it was

1428
00:54:31,370 --> 00:54:29,040
being recorded I'm like you know what

1429
00:54:32,930 --> 00:54:31,380
Grant I just leave this is ridiculous we

1430
00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:32,940
were talking about did you leave you

1431
00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:35,760
left I didn't I didn't okay uh and I

1432
00:54:38,150 --> 00:54:36,720
didn't really want that and I didn't

1433
00:54:39,410 --> 00:54:38,160
really want that put out and then

1434
00:54:40,970 --> 00:54:39,420
eventually they convinced me and like

1435
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:40,980
all right put it out whatever what year

1436
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:42,960
was this it was a couple of two or three

1437
00:54:46,130 --> 00:54:44,400
years ago and I was arguing with him

1438
00:54:48,410 --> 00:54:46,140
about how this might be some negative

1439
00:54:50,569 --> 00:54:48,420
stuff and he's like well you know if you

1440
00:54:53,109 --> 00:54:50,579
want to talk evil think about the you

1441
00:54:57,530 --> 00:54:53,119
know Americans using nuclear weapons and

1442
00:54:59,569 --> 00:54:57,540
Nagasaki in Hiroshima and it's just yeah

1443
00:55:01,670 --> 00:54:59,579
I mean there could be levels of evil

1444
00:55:02,950 --> 00:55:01,680
though aliens are used in hand grenades

1445
00:55:05,329 --> 00:55:02,960
I mean

1446
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:05,339
something obviously you've got to be

1447
00:55:09,530 --> 00:55:07,920
open-minded about both sides right you

1448
00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:09,540
can't yeah oh they're all evil they're

1449
00:55:13,069 --> 00:55:11,280
all good or they're all right It's gotta

1450
00:55:14,750 --> 00:55:13,079
be a combat I think that's a healthy way

1451
00:55:17,150 --> 00:55:14,760
to look at it and I think you're you're

1452
00:55:19,730 --> 00:55:17,160
you're you agree with me we don't know

1453
00:55:21,410 --> 00:55:19,740
what the hell is going on no we don't

1454
00:55:23,210 --> 00:55:21,420
know I don't know I mean I have theories

1455
00:55:25,010 --> 00:55:23,220
I talk about simulation Theory I talk

1456
00:55:26,750 --> 00:55:25,020
about talk about reincarnation trap I'll

1457
00:55:29,390 --> 00:55:26,760
talk about anything and it interests me

1458
00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:29,400
I don't know though I even talk about

1459
00:55:33,230 --> 00:55:31,440
theories that I don't like like that

1460
00:55:35,390 --> 00:55:33,240
they're future humans I don't like that

1461
00:55:38,329 --> 00:55:35,400
theory I don't want that

1462
00:55:40,250 --> 00:55:38,339
that tells us there might be a problem

1463
00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:40,260
you know like Back to the Future why are

1464
00:55:43,730 --> 00:55:41,280
they why are they so bad at

1465
00:55:44,809 --> 00:55:43,740
communicating with the past us yeah why

1466
00:55:47,150 --> 00:55:44,819
are they making themselves look like

1467
00:55:49,130 --> 00:55:47,160
they're aliens supposedly are they just

1468
00:55:50,450 --> 00:55:49,140
land on schoolyards and say hi to

1469
00:55:52,549 --> 00:55:50,460
Children if we know we don't listen to

1470
00:55:53,870 --> 00:55:52,559
children

1471
00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:53,880
um exactly

1472
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:55,920
do you think there are unacknowledged

1473
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:59,040
saps special access programs on other

1474
00:56:04,309 --> 00:56:01,200
anomalous programs

1475
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:04,319
afterlife healing supernatural abilities

1476
00:56:08,450 --> 00:56:06,960
the new new book by ex-cia guy with her

1477
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:08,460
Mana syndrome sounds interesting yeah

1478
00:56:12,349 --> 00:56:11,040
what's his name the new guy that is the

1479
00:56:14,930 --> 00:56:12,359
name for the book do you know his name

1480
00:56:17,150 --> 00:56:14,940
that new book that's coming out

1481
00:56:20,089 --> 00:56:17,160
um supposedly Oh you mean Scott Andrews

1482
00:56:22,670 --> 00:56:20,099
scan Scott Andrews yes

1483
00:56:25,609 --> 00:56:22,680
um Steve or Scott yet I don't I would

1484
00:56:27,770 --> 00:56:25,619
think I don't know about healing there

1485
00:56:30,349 --> 00:56:27,780
may be I mean any Annie Jacobson who

1486
00:56:32,030 --> 00:56:30,359
wrote phenomenon other books she talks

1487
00:56:33,890 --> 00:56:32,040
about how remote viewing still going on

1488
00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:33,900
that type of program but it's not called

1489
00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:35,280
remote viewing it's called like it's

1490
00:56:41,089 --> 00:56:37,920
like some I forget what word to use

1491
00:56:43,010 --> 00:56:41,099
anomalous abilities quickly but yeah I'm

1492
00:56:46,370 --> 00:56:43,020
thinking thinking silently really hard

1493
00:56:47,930 --> 00:56:46,380
that's the Trinity yeah yeah yeah don't

1494
00:56:49,370 --> 00:56:47,940
use remote viewing I do think of course

1495
00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:49,380
I do think there's some sort of remote

1496
00:56:53,630 --> 00:56:51,359
viewing type program going on because I

1497
00:56:55,190 --> 00:56:53,640
for number one it can be very accurate I

1498
00:56:57,230 --> 00:56:55,200
know people believe there are people out

1499
00:56:59,809 --> 00:56:57,240
there that are very close-minded they

1500
00:57:01,730 --> 00:56:59,819
think there's nothing to remote viewing

1501
00:57:03,470 --> 00:57:01,740
um but it cost me I think that's a

1502
00:57:06,589 --> 00:57:03,480
that's a mistake that I think it's a

1503
00:57:08,690 --> 00:57:06,599
mistake to dismiss it yeah and I was

1504
00:57:10,970 --> 00:57:08,700
open to it early on and I took a class

1505
00:57:12,890 --> 00:57:10,980
right away and it was expensive it was a

1506
00:57:14,450 --> 00:57:12,900
thousand dollars for three days back

1507
00:57:16,609 --> 00:57:14,460
then I was working for the City of Tampa

1508
00:57:19,069 --> 00:57:16,619
television I was making good money I had

1509
00:57:20,809 --> 00:57:19,079
vacation time of course I quit two years

1510
00:57:26,450 --> 00:57:20,819
before my pension to write and cover

1511
00:57:30,589 --> 00:57:28,130
um but anyway yeah I took that class and

1512
00:57:32,809 --> 00:57:30,599
I did remote viewing and I learned the

1513
00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:32,819
method and and I was getting results

1514
00:57:37,069 --> 00:57:35,520
nothing mind-blowing but little details

1515
00:57:39,170 --> 00:57:37,079
I'm like how the hell did that come out

1516
00:57:40,970 --> 00:57:39,180
when I knew nothing about the target so

1517
00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:40,980
yeah I do think I don't know about

1518
00:57:44,450 --> 00:57:42,960
programs that are dealing with healing

1519
00:57:47,089 --> 00:57:44,460
you know I'm interested in healing with

1520
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:47,099
Bill Bankston the most amazing scientist

1521
00:57:52,010 --> 00:57:49,200
that I know and I think more people

1522
00:57:53,630 --> 00:57:52,020
should pay attention to him maybe saps

1523
00:57:55,130 --> 00:57:53,640
and other governments too not just

1524
00:57:57,230 --> 00:57:55,140
necessarily American there might be

1525
00:57:59,630 --> 00:57:57,240
healing stuff in other governments but

1526
00:58:01,130 --> 00:57:59,640
yeah yeah I mean it seems like Russia

1527
00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:01,140
and China would be more open seems like

1528
00:58:04,970 --> 00:58:02,880
we have so much stigma here it's like

1529
00:58:06,650 --> 00:58:04,980
we've we had there's that interview that

1530
00:58:09,470 --> 00:58:06,660
I think you've shared before with Daniel

1531
00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:09,480
Sheehan and Ralph Blumenthal and Lou

1532
00:58:13,730 --> 00:58:11,280
Elizondo where there's that moment where

1533
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:13,740
Lou is telling them hey have you checked

1534
00:58:18,109 --> 00:58:15,119
if there's remote viewing programs still

1535
00:58:20,510 --> 00:58:18,119
are you sure are you sure right it

1536
00:58:22,490 --> 00:58:20,520
doesn't exist and then also skin works

1537
00:58:24,410 --> 00:58:22,500
at the Pentagon there's that scene where

1538
00:58:28,670 --> 00:58:24,420
he's having blue alessandros having his

1539
00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:28,680
beef tartare and talking about remote

1540
00:58:34,130 --> 00:58:32,880
viewing or predicting an attack right

1541
00:58:35,690 --> 00:58:34,140
um I don't know yeah it was something

1542
00:58:38,930 --> 00:58:35,700
where he was in the Battle he was able

1543
00:58:41,210 --> 00:58:38,940
to use his intuition to um protect the

1544
00:58:42,530 --> 00:58:41,220
guys in his command whatever who are

1545
00:58:44,329 --> 00:58:42,540
under him and

1546
00:58:46,910 --> 00:58:44,339
I think you know Lou's been asked about

1547
00:58:48,349 --> 00:58:46,920
remote viewing and um he kind of doesn't

1548
00:58:51,530 --> 00:58:48,359
want to talk about it he says I just

1549
00:58:53,150 --> 00:58:51,540
want the focus to be on in to be on me

1550
00:58:55,069 --> 00:58:53,160
um has Lou confirmed he's not Andrew's

1551
00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:55,079
no I don't think and we talked about

1552
00:58:59,870 --> 00:58:57,839
that how in the book Andrew's father is

1553
00:59:01,010 --> 00:58:59,880
dead and Lou's father is alive so right

1554
00:59:03,109 --> 00:59:01,020
there

1555
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:03,119
if the book's accurate

1556
00:59:07,849 --> 00:59:06,000
and I'm I I'm guessing that we're gonna

1557
00:59:14,630 --> 00:59:07,859
hear about more about remote viewing and

1558
00:59:17,630 --> 00:59:15,890
um but apparently it's all going to make

1559
00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:17,640
sense once the book comes out of course

1560
00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:20,640
it's all going to make sense and like

1561
00:59:26,450 --> 00:59:25,200
Lou is Jay Allen heinek's illegitimate

1562
00:59:28,210 --> 00:59:26,460
son

1563
00:59:31,490 --> 00:59:28,220
it all makes sense now yeah

1564
00:59:32,930 --> 00:59:31,500
[Laughter]

1565
00:59:36,109 --> 00:59:32,940
um that would yeah that'd be a nice

1566
00:59:37,730 --> 00:59:36,119
little bow on everything uh Gotta Love

1567
00:59:40,370 --> 00:59:37,740
psychic Joe I don't consider myself

1568
00:59:42,349 --> 00:59:40,380
psychic but the dream stuff the the

1569
00:59:44,450 --> 00:59:42,359
dream I the dreams I've had about people

1570
00:59:46,609 --> 00:59:44,460
dying it's happened twice they've both

1571
00:59:48,770 --> 00:59:46,619
happened the other one I was working as

1572
00:59:50,569 --> 00:59:48,780
a volunteer with dying veterans at a

1573
00:59:52,910 --> 00:59:50,579
veteran hospital and I had three guys I

1574
00:59:54,010 --> 00:59:52,920
spent like nine months with and one guy

1575
00:59:56,030 --> 00:59:54,020
had

1576
00:59:57,890 --> 00:59:56,040
emphysema and I would go and visit like

1577
00:59:59,510 --> 00:59:57,900
three days a week and some days he would

1578
01:00:01,970 --> 00:59:59,520
just wave me off he wasn't up to talking

1579
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:01,980
but he wasn't anywhere close to death at

1580
01:00:05,870 --> 01:00:03,599
any time you never looked at him say oh

1581
01:00:07,609 --> 01:00:05,880
here he goes he's taking a downturn that

1582
01:00:10,010 --> 01:00:07,619
never happened with him and I went home

1583
01:00:11,930 --> 01:00:10,020
one day and I had a dream that he died

1584
01:00:13,789 --> 01:00:11,940
when then the next day to the hospital

1585
01:00:16,069 --> 01:00:13,799
and the nurse stops me in the front she

1586
01:00:18,650 --> 01:00:16,079
goes I gotta talk to you and I go Frank

1587
01:00:20,270 --> 01:00:18,660
died she goes yeah how did you know I'm

1588
01:00:22,190 --> 01:00:20,280
like I had a dream about it last night

1589
01:00:23,450 --> 01:00:22,200
and she didn't really seem too shocked

1590
01:00:24,890 --> 01:00:23,460
probably hears that stuff all the time

1591
01:00:26,450 --> 01:00:24,900
so is that just a coincidence I mean

1592
01:00:27,829 --> 01:00:26,460
yeah I'm working with dying people but

1593
01:00:29,270 --> 01:00:27,839
with the girl when I was in eighth grade

1594
01:00:32,210 --> 01:00:29,280
I'm like I didn't know anything about

1595
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:32,220
the girl had the dream that she dies her

1596
01:00:36,109 --> 01:00:34,079
mother dies and I go in the next day she

1597
01:00:37,730 --> 01:00:36,119
says her mother died it's like what what

1598
01:00:39,650 --> 01:00:37,740
is that I don't know

1599
01:00:41,510 --> 01:00:39,660
um I don't know I'm not psychic

1600
01:00:43,490 --> 01:00:41,520
I think we all have that ability the

1601
01:00:45,349 --> 01:00:43,500
sixth sense um some people have it

1602
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:45,359
really strong like people like Joe

1603
01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:48,240
mcmonagle Ingo Swann people like that

1604
01:00:54,710 --> 01:00:49,920
Sylvia Brown

1605
01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:54,720
alive and then they're dead do you

1606
01:00:58,910 --> 01:00:55,680
remember that

1607
01:01:01,069 --> 01:00:58,920
uh The Montel Williams quip no she was

1608
01:01:03,349 --> 01:01:01,079
on Art she was on it was either noria

1609
01:01:05,569 --> 01:01:03,359
Art Bell it was I was driving across the

1610
01:01:07,609 --> 01:01:05,579
country moving from New York to L.A and

1611
01:01:09,410 --> 01:01:07,619
she was on and they asked her about the

1612
01:01:10,549 --> 01:01:09,420
missing miners they were missing they

1613
01:01:14,510 --> 01:01:10,559
were underground what's going to happen

1614
01:01:17,150 --> 01:01:14,520
she goes oh yes she was on the news she

1615
01:01:19,849 --> 01:01:17,160
either I think they all died and she

1616
01:01:22,490 --> 01:01:19,859
said oh they're they're fine they're

1617
01:01:24,890 --> 01:01:22,500
fine within an hour news coming out

1618
01:01:26,390 --> 01:01:24,900
they're all dead it's like whatever she

1619
01:01:27,950 --> 01:01:26,400
said it was the opposite it was like and

1620
01:01:29,990 --> 01:01:27,960
I do practically around probably had

1621
01:01:31,730 --> 01:01:30,000
some ability and then it just turned

1622
01:01:33,470 --> 01:01:31,740
into entertainment money making thing

1623
01:01:36,250 --> 01:01:33,480
and it's like

1624
01:01:37,970 --> 01:01:36,260
yeah she was on Montel Williams and

1625
01:01:40,010 --> 01:01:37,980
someone's like do you know what happened

1626
01:01:43,069 --> 01:01:40,020
to my son like what happened oh he

1627
01:01:44,690 --> 01:01:43,079
drowned honey he drowned and and she and

1628
01:01:47,530 --> 01:01:44,700
they're like oh no I mean like he was

1629
01:01:51,049 --> 01:01:47,540
shot in a desert like what who did it

1630
01:01:52,309 --> 01:01:51,059
and then she like backtracked it oh it's

1631
01:01:53,930 --> 01:01:52,319
yeah it's sad because you could take

1632
01:01:55,849 --> 01:01:53,940
advantage of people who are in that you

1633
01:01:57,349 --> 01:01:55,859
know and I have no problem people who I

1634
01:02:00,230 --> 01:01:57,359
know people who have lost loved ones and

1635
01:02:01,789 --> 01:02:00,240
go to mediums and it's helped them I

1636
01:02:03,589 --> 01:02:01,799
don't know if mediums are talking to the

1637
01:02:05,390 --> 01:02:03,599
dead I do think some mediums are coming

1638
01:02:07,250 --> 01:02:05,400
up with information there's no way they

1639
01:02:09,109 --> 01:02:07,260
could have known are they talking to the

1640
01:02:11,450 --> 01:02:09,119
dead I don't know yeah it's hard to

1641
01:02:13,309 --> 01:02:11,460
prove that I'm sure there's some silent

1642
01:02:14,690 --> 01:02:13,319
mediums too like they have that ability

1643
01:02:16,670 --> 01:02:14,700
and they don't want anything to do with

1644
01:02:17,930 --> 01:02:16,680
they don't tell anybody about it yeah I

1645
01:02:19,190 --> 01:02:17,940
mean look at you look at some of the

1646
01:02:21,230 --> 01:02:19,200
physical mediums that's another

1647
01:02:22,970 --> 01:02:21,240
controversy that you know supposedly

1648
01:02:24,530 --> 01:02:22,980
they were able to bring the person into

1649
01:02:26,630 --> 01:02:24,540
the room where you could actually see

1650
01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:26,640
your loved one a lot of those mediums

1651
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:28,079
they didn't take money they only sat

1652
01:02:31,490 --> 01:02:29,760
with family members and friends but

1653
01:02:32,809 --> 01:02:31,500
they're all dead now so there's only a

1654
01:02:35,870 --> 01:02:32,819
couple of physical mediums Alive Now

1655
01:02:38,270 --> 01:02:35,880
Stuart alexand under who Leslie Kane has

1656
01:02:40,309 --> 01:02:38,280
sat with and set a human hand formed in

1657
01:02:42,829 --> 01:02:40,319
front of her face a few times

1658
01:02:45,289 --> 01:02:42,839
I do I don't think Leslie's making that

1659
01:02:46,670 --> 01:02:45,299
up she was right there um what it is I

1660
01:02:49,370 --> 01:02:46,680
don't know I don't know if that's a a

1661
01:02:51,650 --> 01:02:49,380
spirit making us a hand form I don't

1662
01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:51,660
know she got a lot of criticism for that

1663
01:02:55,430 --> 01:02:54,240
she does and I and I'm like I love that

1664
01:02:57,230 --> 01:02:55,440
she's talking about that because that's

1665
01:02:59,569 --> 01:02:57,240
one of the topics I'm interested in I

1666
01:03:02,809 --> 01:02:59,579
was for a while now Juliana marankovic

1667
01:03:05,809 --> 01:03:02,819
who does a great job just saving all

1668
01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:05,819
these articles and videos he documents

1669
01:03:09,410 --> 01:03:07,920
on his site he's interested in that too

1670
01:03:11,870 --> 01:03:09,420
it's like not a lot of people are

1671
01:03:13,670 --> 01:03:11,880
because it's so hard to believe but

1672
01:03:16,130 --> 01:03:13,680
there's so many reports of the same type

1673
01:03:17,150 --> 01:03:16,140
of thing going on it's it's just at some

1674
01:03:18,829 --> 01:03:17,160
point it's like all right they're all

1675
01:03:20,510 --> 01:03:18,839
reporting the same thing but yeah it's

1676
01:03:21,770 --> 01:03:20,520
got to be documented and so far it has

1677
01:03:23,930 --> 01:03:21,780
really not

1678
01:03:25,430 --> 01:03:23,940
you know the excuses that if you use a

1679
01:03:26,809 --> 01:03:25,440
camera or you put light on it's going to

1680
01:03:28,490 --> 01:03:26,819
injure the medium or it's going to

1681
01:03:29,930 --> 01:03:28,500
interfere all right other people are

1682
01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:29,940
like well it's because it's a scam

1683
01:03:34,970 --> 01:03:32,160
that's why they're saying that

1684
01:03:37,849 --> 01:03:34,980
yeah they landed in school yards years

1685
01:03:41,750 --> 01:03:39,710
those kids are adults now you're talking

1686
01:03:43,549 --> 01:03:41,760
about they've been preparing us for this

1687
01:03:45,349 --> 01:03:43,559
time frame many abductees are in the 50s

1688
01:03:46,849 --> 01:03:45,359
and older myself included I don't know

1689
01:03:48,589 --> 01:03:46,859
if we're being prepared for anything we

1690
01:03:51,650 --> 01:03:48,599
may be talking a hundred years from now

1691
01:03:53,750 --> 01:03:51,660
they're preparing yeah so I don't know

1692
01:03:55,789 --> 01:03:53,760
um I hope so I hope they're preparing us

1693
01:03:59,150 --> 01:03:55,799
for something good like the air the

1694
01:04:01,430 --> 01:03:59,160
Ariel School Landing in in Zimbabwe

1695
01:04:03,049 --> 01:04:01,440
wasn't that near like a uranium mine

1696
01:04:04,789 --> 01:04:03,059
like maybe they're not there to prepare

1697
01:04:06,410 --> 01:04:04,799
the kids at all but they're there for

1698
01:04:08,450 --> 01:04:06,420
like resources

1699
01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:08,460
I don't know who knows

1700
01:04:11,990 --> 01:04:10,559
yeah that's a good point who the hell

1701
01:04:16,970 --> 01:04:12,000
knows we don't know somebody

1702
01:04:21,289 --> 01:04:19,370
sent five dollars and said let's go UFO

1703
01:04:22,730 --> 01:04:21,299
heard they're showing a train I can't

1704
01:04:24,289 --> 01:04:22,740
pull their comment up heard they're

1705
01:04:27,049 --> 01:04:24,299
showing a triangle video during the

1706
01:04:28,609 --> 01:04:27,059
hearing yeah that'd be awesome I would

1707
01:04:30,589 --> 01:04:28,619
imagine that it's like we're not

1708
01:04:33,410 --> 01:04:30,599
expecting any videos or photos but

1709
01:04:36,349 --> 01:04:33,420
imagine imagine

1710
01:04:39,470 --> 01:04:36,359
Green Street source is correct and Sean

1711
01:04:41,349 --> 01:04:39,480
Kirkpatrick is a big UFO fan he's like

1712
01:04:43,849 --> 01:04:41,359
screw it that would be awesome let's go

1713
01:04:47,089 --> 01:04:43,859
I actually hope for green Street's right

1714
01:04:48,770 --> 01:04:47,099
and that's yeah subtle health is right I

1715
01:04:50,270 --> 01:04:48,780
think because I'd make things easier but

1716
01:04:54,230 --> 01:04:50,280
that it seems that just sounds too good

1717
01:04:57,890 --> 01:04:56,089
um be awesome if we see the triangle

1718
01:05:00,410 --> 01:04:57,900
video in your friend Michael via is like

1719
01:05:03,710 --> 01:05:00,420
that's the one that's right I see

1720
01:05:05,089 --> 01:05:03,720
Michael Vai in the crowd is uh because

1721
01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:05,099
he I asked him to be honest with us

1722
01:05:08,809 --> 01:05:06,720
today and he may be able to do it he's

1723
01:05:10,250 --> 01:05:08,819
got a lot of stuff going on I hope

1724
01:05:12,530 --> 01:05:10,260
um yeah I don't know if you know this

1725
01:05:14,210 --> 01:05:12,540
name but he was on our belt all the time

1726
01:05:16,549 --> 01:05:14,220
major at Dames and he would make these

1727
01:05:17,990 --> 01:05:16,559
ridiculous predictions Dr Doom was his

1728
01:05:20,030 --> 01:05:18,000
nickname

1729
01:05:22,130 --> 01:05:20,040
there's going to be a plant pathogen

1730
01:05:24,770 --> 01:05:22,140
attached to the hail Bob Comet and it's

1731
01:05:25,730 --> 01:05:24,780
going to kill and you can turn up the

1732
01:05:28,130 --> 01:05:25,740
planet

1733
01:05:30,410 --> 01:05:28,140
so you need to buy a lot of plant stuff

1734
01:05:32,089 --> 01:05:30,420
and greens make sure you're prepared

1735
01:05:33,890 --> 01:05:32,099
even just make these ridiculous comments

1736
01:05:35,930 --> 01:05:33,900
I mean I was so annoyed trying to show

1737
01:05:37,670 --> 01:05:35,940
that he's a I was trying to show that

1738
01:05:38,870 --> 01:05:37,680
just not to trust him I would follow I

1739
01:05:41,750 --> 01:05:38,880
was trying to call an art bell and I

1740
01:05:43,849 --> 01:05:41,760
could never get in so he Dames was on a

1741
01:05:45,950 --> 01:05:43,859
Hawaii radio show really small show so I

1742
01:05:46,970 --> 01:05:45,960
called in there and I kind of confronted

1743
01:05:49,730 --> 01:05:46,980
him but

1744
01:05:51,410 --> 01:05:49,740
he he brushed it off um he really hurt

1745
01:05:53,210 --> 01:05:51,420
he hurt the

1746
01:05:55,490 --> 01:05:53,220
reputation of remote viewing with his

1747
01:05:58,010 --> 01:05:55,500
ridiculous predictions

1748
01:06:00,109 --> 01:05:58,020
yeah and now Yuri Geller is doing the

1749
01:06:02,630 --> 01:06:00,119
same Erie gella who I think has real

1750
01:06:04,670 --> 01:06:02,640
abilities but he says he says things on

1751
01:06:07,849 --> 01:06:04,680
on Twitter it's like what the hell are

1752
01:06:10,309 --> 01:06:07,859
you saying that just happened like the

1753
01:06:13,250 --> 01:06:10,319
videos he makes it's like a clear CGI

1754
01:06:16,549 --> 01:06:13,260
UFO and he's like this is it like

1755
01:06:17,750 --> 01:06:16,559
come on I know I know it's bad but then

1756
01:06:19,549 --> 01:06:17,760
you tell him and he's like oh

1757
01:06:21,230 --> 01:06:19,559
interesting so he doesn't like get mad

1758
01:06:22,849 --> 01:06:21,240
as long as you don't call names he's

1759
01:06:25,370 --> 01:06:22,859
like yeah that's fake URI this is why

1760
01:06:27,470 --> 01:06:25,380
and he says oh interesting he blocked uh

1761
01:06:32,809 --> 01:06:27,480
UAP Mike because he commented on his

1762
01:06:37,309 --> 01:06:33,829
foreign

1763
01:06:38,289 --> 01:06:37,319
nobody talks about Irish legs

1764
01:06:41,089 --> 01:06:38,299
um yeah

1765
01:06:42,650 --> 01:06:41,099
I'm not sure that here that it's been

1766
01:06:44,150 --> 01:06:42,660
canceled but it's still you know the

1767
01:06:45,529 --> 01:06:44,160
time it could be the quote the

1768
01:06:48,529 --> 01:06:45,539
classified version is probably still

1769
01:06:51,170 --> 01:06:48,539
going yeah you know that right now they

1770
01:06:53,450 --> 01:06:51,180
just wheeled the Roswell intact craft

1771
01:06:55,010 --> 01:06:53,460
into the hearing room you know

1772
01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:55,020
everybody's taking pictures of it they

1773
01:07:00,109 --> 01:06:57,839
got the bodies in a little container but

1774
01:07:02,150 --> 01:07:00,119
we're not going to be able to see that

1775
01:07:03,170 --> 01:07:02,160
yeah it's not it would suck it was

1776
01:07:05,690 --> 01:07:03,180
canceled

1777
01:07:06,829 --> 01:07:05,700
um we have 377 people watching which is

1778
01:07:09,049 --> 01:07:06,839
the most

1779
01:07:10,970 --> 01:07:09,059
I've ever had by far I think Lou was a

1780
01:07:13,430 --> 01:07:10,980
couple of hundred

1781
01:07:16,849 --> 01:07:13,440
um what do you think about my labs

1782
01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:19,069
uh I don't get it I just don't

1783
01:07:23,150 --> 01:07:21,119
understand the logistics of it I don't

1784
01:07:25,370 --> 01:07:23,160
understand how it could happen I don't

1785
01:07:27,650 --> 01:07:25,380
know how it's possible I don't know how

1786
01:07:29,750 --> 01:07:27,660
humans could pull that off could like go

1787
01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:29,760
into the night like a physical abduction

1788
01:07:34,250 --> 01:07:32,640
like take someone with like aliens next

1789
01:07:36,289 --> 01:07:34,260
to them too that's the story like

1790
01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:36,299
they're mixing music

1791
01:07:40,190 --> 01:07:38,400
I could see a technology that they have

1792
01:07:42,890 --> 01:07:40,200
that could like make you see it whatever

1793
01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:42,900
they want you to see and that's what I

1794
01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:45,839
think might be going on yeah but but the

1795
01:07:48,650 --> 01:07:47,760
logistics of physically taking a human

1796
01:07:50,870 --> 01:07:48,660
body

1797
01:07:53,210 --> 01:07:50,880
with human Tech out of your bedroom

1798
01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:53,220
somewhere else doing your tests bring

1799
01:07:57,349 --> 01:07:55,680
them back get caught ever I don't get it

1800
01:07:59,089 --> 01:07:57,359
like I just know they're using alien

1801
01:08:00,349 --> 01:07:59,099
Tech working with the aliens and it's

1802
01:08:02,150 --> 01:08:00,359
like you know it sounds so ridiculous

1803
01:08:04,130 --> 01:08:02,160
working with the aliens but like remote

1804
01:08:05,690 --> 01:08:04,140
viewing Lynn Buchanan who's one of the

1805
01:08:07,490 --> 01:08:05,700
original remote viewers

1806
01:08:09,470 --> 01:08:07,500
talked about how he went into certain

1807
01:08:11,270 --> 01:08:09,480
classified programs and he saw humans

1808
01:08:13,010 --> 01:08:11,280
and Aliens working next to each other

1809
01:08:15,470 --> 01:08:13,020
and he said you know is it possible they

1810
01:08:16,910 --> 01:08:15,480
were dummies a mannequin he goes yeah

1811
01:08:18,590 --> 01:08:16,920
it's possible he goes I don't think

1812
01:08:20,809 --> 01:08:18,600
that's the case but I don't know what to

1813
01:08:22,249 --> 01:08:20,819
do with that it's like Lynn the way he

1814
01:08:24,110 --> 01:08:22,259
tells the story is like yeah that's what

1815
01:08:26,150 --> 01:08:24,120
happened this is what I saw I don't know

1816
01:08:29,630 --> 01:08:26,160
what to do what sorry what's Fire in the

1817
01:08:31,729 --> 01:08:29,640
Sky Travis Travis Walton Travis Walton

1818
01:08:34,309 --> 01:08:31,739
thank you he saw a human which is not in

1819
01:08:35,749 --> 01:08:34,319
the movie but it's right he saw a human

1820
01:08:37,370 --> 01:08:35,759
and I think that was just a calm him

1821
01:08:40,370 --> 01:08:37,380
down because the human didn't talk at

1822
01:08:41,689 --> 01:08:40,380
all if I had to guess show him something

1823
01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:41,699
that just show him something that he

1824
01:08:46,189 --> 01:08:43,920
knows right right

1825
01:08:48,650 --> 01:08:46,199
um and then the guy who's the Devil's

1826
01:08:50,570 --> 01:08:48,660
Den guy I'm sorry I'm bad with names the

1827
01:08:54,289 --> 01:08:50,580
guy that said that went camping with his

1828
01:08:58,669 --> 01:08:57,050
he was camping with his friend I shared

1829
01:09:01,249 --> 01:08:58,679
the clip recently and his sister

1830
01:09:04,849 --> 01:09:01,259
Lovelace Devil's Den yes yes thank you

1831
01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:04,859
yeah yes sorry uh but yeah he he saw a

1832
01:09:10,249 --> 01:09:08,400
U.S Navy personnel on the triangle when

1833
01:09:12,289 --> 01:09:10,259
he was abducted

1834
01:09:14,269 --> 01:09:12,299
imagine they really imagine that's the

1835
01:09:16,130 --> 01:09:14,279
case there were aliens working with with

1836
01:09:19,309 --> 01:09:16,140
our government or people in certain

1837
01:09:20,990 --> 01:09:19,319
Intel oh my god well it go it would go

1838
01:09:23,870 --> 01:09:21,000
with that crazy rumor that we talked

1839
01:09:25,070 --> 01:09:23,880
about years ago which we know who's in

1840
01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:25,080
the saucers we know who's in the

1841
01:09:30,110 --> 01:09:26,640
triangles we don't know who's in the Tic

1842
01:09:32,570 --> 01:09:30,120
Tacs and yeah there's humans and aliens

1843
01:09:34,309 --> 01:09:32,580
in the Tic Tacs but

1844
01:09:36,110 --> 01:09:34,319
I mean I'm sorry and I don't know if

1845
01:09:38,150 --> 01:09:36,120
that's true I was really

1846
01:09:40,430 --> 01:09:38,160
really strong on that at one point now

1847
01:09:44,030 --> 01:09:40,440
I'm not so sure if that's the case I

1848
01:09:45,769 --> 01:09:44,040
mean I asked Lou during a clubhouse

1849
01:09:47,030 --> 01:09:45,779
event if we know who's inside and he

1850
01:09:49,490 --> 01:09:47,040
goes I'd rather not answer that question

1851
01:09:51,289 --> 01:09:49,500
I don't know exactly what he said but I

1852
01:09:53,510 --> 01:09:51,299
don't know I mean you would think if we

1853
01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:53,520
have bodies that would be that would

1854
01:09:59,270 --> 01:09:57,120
tell us some of what is inside yes but

1855
01:10:01,610 --> 01:09:59,280
you know occupants can do we have photos

1856
01:10:03,890 --> 01:10:01,620
clearer photos who the hell I don't know

1857
01:10:07,250 --> 01:10:03,900
once you go down that path then you have

1858
01:10:09,709 --> 01:10:07,260
to go down like the tr3b uh Astrid path

1859
01:10:14,110 --> 01:10:09,719
like yeah like y comes on he can talk to

1860
01:10:16,729 --> 01:10:14,120
you he'll talk tr3 be with you you know

1861
01:10:18,709 --> 01:10:16,739
the guy who like came up with that story

1862
01:10:21,890 --> 01:10:18,719
or first broke that said oh I made it up

1863
01:10:23,209 --> 01:10:21,900
Edward Fouche I don't think right I

1864
01:10:24,649 --> 01:10:23,219
don't think he said he made it up I

1865
01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:24,659
could be wrong but I remember that was

1866
01:10:28,490 --> 01:10:26,640
out back in the day and it was

1867
01:10:31,070 --> 01:10:28,500
you know it was like the big the big

1868
01:10:33,709 --> 01:10:31,080
thing right and in secret the fiction

1869
01:10:35,390 --> 01:10:33,719
secret machines books there's clearly a

1870
01:10:38,510 --> 01:10:35,400
craft that they described which is

1871
01:10:40,450 --> 01:10:38,520
basically the tr3b a triangle

1872
01:10:43,850 --> 01:10:40,460
maybe we you know

1873
01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:43,860
get that gets to the question John and

1874
01:10:47,450 --> 01:10:45,840
Jacques fell for some woo because they

1875
01:10:48,950 --> 01:10:47,460
couldn't imagine all this being Advanced

1876
01:10:50,510 --> 01:10:48,960
Tech

1877
01:10:52,430 --> 01:10:50,520
just spend some time listening to

1878
01:10:54,050 --> 01:10:52,440
Michael Levin

1879
01:10:56,750 --> 01:10:54,060
um if we can do that now what can be

1880
01:10:59,330 --> 01:10:56,760
done with deep time I'm open to some of

1881
01:11:01,610 --> 01:10:59,340
this being our attack I mean and I know

1882
01:11:03,649 --> 01:11:01,620
a lot of people get upset when I say

1883
01:11:05,330 --> 01:11:03,659
we may have cracked gravity there are

1884
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:05,340
people who believe we have my favorite

1885
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:07,440
story it's an anecdote is Will Miller

1886
01:11:12,229 --> 01:11:09,600
saying he spoke to his friend who worked

1887
01:11:14,390 --> 01:11:12,239
at Area 51 and on the guy's last day he

1888
01:11:16,729 --> 01:11:14,400
came to Will and said he goes will I

1889
01:11:18,229 --> 01:11:16,739
know um he goes when you see craft that

1890
01:11:20,990 --> 01:11:18,239
are making you know

1891
01:11:22,970 --> 01:11:21,000
90 degree turns and traveling at Mach 15

1892
01:11:25,070 --> 01:11:22,980
or whatever because you think those are

1893
01:11:27,229 --> 01:11:25,080
your extraterrestrial buddies he goes

1894
01:11:28,669 --> 01:11:27,239
but they're not and he walked away so

1895
01:11:30,470 --> 01:11:28,679
it's like and it's only an anecdote

1896
01:11:32,090 --> 01:11:30,480
maybe the guy was kidding didn't sound

1897
01:11:32,830 --> 01:11:32,100
like he was kidding

1898
01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:32,840
um

1899
01:11:38,570 --> 01:11:36,000
will will Miller said something else

1900
01:11:41,330 --> 01:11:38,580
during your interview too about that he

1901
01:11:43,610 --> 01:11:41,340
said that uh that he thinks that they

1902
01:11:45,470 --> 01:11:43,620
have that American U.S definitely has

1903
01:11:48,169 --> 01:11:45,480
like at least one craft his gut feeling

1904
01:11:50,209 --> 01:11:48,179
basically that that can travel space and

1905
01:11:51,410 --> 01:11:50,219
time anywhere in space and time it's

1906
01:11:54,350 --> 01:11:51,420
like yeah

1907
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:54,360
all right we're just like wow and you

1908
01:11:57,530 --> 01:11:55,920
have Eric Davis saying we've totally

1909
01:11:59,630 --> 01:11:57,540
failed at reverse engineering anything

1910
01:12:01,370 --> 01:11:59,640
in the program gets put into hibernation

1911
01:12:04,370 --> 01:12:01,380
and they try again in 10 years and like

1912
01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:04,380
so it's you have both sides I smack I

1913
01:12:07,850 --> 01:12:05,520
don't know what to believe I don't know

1914
01:12:09,410 --> 01:12:07,860
I mean you have Nick cook who was the

1915
01:12:11,030 --> 01:12:09,420
aviation editor for Jane's defense

1916
01:12:13,370 --> 01:12:11,040
weekly which is a really respected

1917
01:12:15,649 --> 01:12:13,380
defense magazine and he's like I don't

1918
01:12:17,270 --> 01:12:15,659
have the evidence or proof but in my gut

1919
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:17,280
we I think we may have cracked gravity

1920
01:12:21,709 --> 01:12:18,960
so I don't know it's like and if and you

1921
01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:21,719
got Michael schrat going around from the

1922
01:12:25,250 --> 01:12:23,520
50 from the 50s saying this is the

1923
01:12:27,770 --> 01:12:25,260
evidence which is just an article in a

1924
01:12:29,030 --> 01:12:27,780
magazine but that's his evidence I don't

1925
01:12:31,070 --> 01:12:29,040
know and then you get Michael Vai who

1926
01:12:31,910 --> 01:12:31,080
believes his sighting in 92 in the Gulf

1927
01:12:34,910 --> 01:12:31,920
of

1928
01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:34,920
Persian Gulf was our Tech uh that's

1929
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:36,480
funny I met somebody yesterday who I

1930
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:37,920
worked with back

1931
01:12:42,169 --> 01:12:40,080
back in the 90s in that job I quit

1932
01:12:43,370 --> 01:12:42,179
before I got a pension he was he came to

1933
01:12:46,189 --> 01:12:43,380
the conference I was working yesterday

1934
01:12:48,590 --> 01:12:46,199
and I mentioned how it was some of our

1935
01:12:50,990 --> 01:12:48,600
Tech maybe and he he was like I don't

1936
01:12:52,850 --> 01:12:51,000
think so and then I said well you know

1937
01:12:54,890 --> 01:12:52,860
maybe you know these crafts are not

1938
01:12:57,169 --> 01:12:54,900
extraterrestrial he's like well why did

1939
01:12:58,790 --> 01:12:57,179
they have craft I'm like well it's a

1940
01:13:00,410 --> 01:12:58,800
whole big thing they might want to make

1941
01:13:01,850 --> 01:13:00,420
us think through ET when they're really

1942
01:13:03,950 --> 01:13:01,860
yeah because they're doing some other

1943
01:13:05,510 --> 01:13:03,960
thing and it's diversion and when you

1944
01:13:07,070 --> 01:13:05,520
bring that up to somebody out of the

1945
01:13:11,229 --> 01:13:07,080
blue they're like what are you talking

1946
01:13:13,850 --> 01:13:11,239
about what I just dropped it never mind

1947
01:13:16,729 --> 01:13:13,860
I think we can't rule it out we can't

1948
01:13:18,530 --> 01:13:16,739
rule out the Tic Tacs or human Tech we

1949
01:13:21,050 --> 01:13:18,540
can't prove it that it's not human Tech

1950
01:13:23,630 --> 01:13:21,060
I don't think it is but we can't prove

1951
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:23,640
it no I can't prove it um can't prove

1952
01:13:28,550 --> 01:13:25,440
anything right now because the public

1953
01:13:29,990 --> 01:13:28,560
record is not full of really good videos

1954
01:13:32,149 --> 01:13:30,000
and this is something I brought up the

1955
01:13:34,669 --> 01:13:32,159
other day with Michael VI on the phone I

1956
01:13:36,410 --> 01:13:34,679
said and other people I said if these

1957
01:13:38,990 --> 01:13:36,420
things are really showing up on our

1958
01:13:40,610 --> 01:13:39,000
sensors and they're clear as a you know

1959
01:13:42,350 --> 01:13:40,620
supposedly we have videos that are

1960
01:13:43,790 --> 01:13:42,360
classified that are like oh my God if

1961
01:13:46,010 --> 01:13:43,800
you saw these videos you'd be like oh my

1962
01:13:48,350 --> 01:13:46,020
God why aren't they showing up like that

1963
01:13:51,410 --> 01:13:48,360
for for civilians

1964
01:13:54,229 --> 01:13:51,420
um Michael why said well that's because

1965
01:13:55,550 --> 01:13:54,239
they can't hide from our sensors you

1966
01:13:56,990 --> 01:13:55,560
know those sensors are sensitive and

1967
01:13:59,450 --> 01:13:57,000
they're picking up stuff that our

1968
01:14:01,490 --> 01:13:59,460
iPhones and our eyes are not picking up

1969
01:14:03,290 --> 01:14:01,500
but I'm like I don't know but let's

1970
01:14:05,630 --> 01:14:03,300
assume that that's not true let's assume

1971
01:14:07,850 --> 01:14:05,640
that our eyes could see a craft that

1972
01:14:10,070 --> 01:14:07,860
just came down but they're only showing

1973
01:14:12,890 --> 01:14:10,080
up for military sensors that doesn't

1974
01:14:14,689 --> 01:14:12,900
make sense to me it's like why would

1975
01:14:16,130 --> 01:14:14,699
it's like do they realize do they just

1976
01:14:17,450 --> 01:14:16,140
know that the military is not going to

1977
01:14:18,770 --> 01:14:17,460
release that footage so they don't give

1978
01:14:20,570 --> 01:14:18,780
a crap like well they're not going to

1979
01:14:21,770 --> 01:14:20,580
report it because these the governments

1980
01:14:22,910 --> 01:14:21,780
cover this up so we could show up

1981
01:14:25,130 --> 01:14:22,920
wherever we want in front of the

1982
01:14:26,510 --> 01:14:25,140
military sensors just don't do it over a

1983
01:14:28,010 --> 01:14:26,520
civilian area because civilians are

1984
01:14:29,330 --> 01:14:28,020
going to share their videos I mean I'm

1985
01:14:31,130 --> 01:14:29,340
just trying to figure out why that's the

1986
01:14:33,229 --> 01:14:31,140
case have you thought about that is that

1987
01:14:35,570 --> 01:14:33,239
coming from the angle that some of this

1988
01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:35,580
some of these UFOs are human Tech or

1989
01:14:39,470 --> 01:14:37,440
alien what are the angle are you coming

1990
01:14:42,169 --> 01:14:39,480
at I'm coming from if they were if they

1991
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:42,179
were aliens like why would why would the

1992
01:14:47,990 --> 01:14:45,840
Occupy or the occupants that's my Jeremy

1993
01:14:49,669 --> 01:14:48,000
Corbell he has he has a very unique way

1994
01:14:50,330 --> 01:14:49,679
of saying O's

1995
01:14:53,270 --> 01:14:50,340
um

1996
01:14:54,169 --> 01:14:53,280
why were the occupants feel it's okay to

1997
01:14:56,330 --> 01:14:54,179
show up

1998
01:14:58,610 --> 01:14:56,340
on our military sensors but they don't

1999
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:58,620
do the same for civilian you know I know

2000
01:15:02,689 --> 01:15:00,239
people have shot videos but let's face

2001
01:15:04,490 --> 01:15:02,699
it civilian UFO videos for the most part

2002
01:15:06,290 --> 01:15:04,500
are not good

2003
01:15:08,209 --> 01:15:06,300
you know they're like I'll look at this

2004
01:15:10,070 --> 01:15:08,219
and and I've seen this one person I

2005
01:15:11,390 --> 01:15:10,080
forgot her name I've talked about on

2006
01:15:14,270 --> 01:15:11,400
Twitter she has some really interesting

2007
01:15:15,950 --> 01:15:14,280
videos uh Nikki Noel

2008
01:15:19,490 --> 01:15:15,960
um but for the most part the videos I

2009
01:15:21,290 --> 01:15:19,500
see are just not impressive I can't show

2010
01:15:23,330 --> 01:15:21,300
um

2011
01:15:24,590 --> 01:15:23,340
uh Congressman for this hearing it's

2012
01:15:26,510 --> 01:15:24,600
supposedly it's just the Senators which

2013
01:15:28,250 --> 01:15:26,520
I list in the I list who's part of this

2014
01:15:29,990 --> 01:15:28,260
I don't know if any Congressional people

2015
01:15:32,390 --> 01:15:30,000
are going to be allowed in but I can't

2016
01:15:34,010 --> 01:15:32,400
show videos to people and relatives and

2017
01:15:35,570 --> 01:15:34,020
say check this out

2018
01:15:37,430 --> 01:15:35,580
isn't this impressive we're being

2019
01:15:40,130 --> 01:15:37,440
visited by something it's like no even

2020
01:15:41,450 --> 01:15:40,140
even the tick even the Tic Tac and the

2021
01:15:43,970 --> 01:15:41,460
Gimbal and the go Fest they're

2022
01:15:45,770 --> 01:15:43,980
interested but it's still it's still not

2023
01:15:48,709 --> 01:15:45,780
enough for people to say oh my God what

2024
01:15:52,850 --> 01:15:48,719
is that now we need a video like we saw

2025
01:15:55,910 --> 01:15:52,860
with the the F or not the the Russian

2026
01:15:58,490 --> 01:15:55,920
jet going up against that that Reaper

2027
01:15:59,870 --> 01:15:58,500
drone that was released recently you

2028
01:16:01,610 --> 01:15:59,880
know when they just put the jet watt

2029
01:16:04,070 --> 01:16:01,620
like they're just search they were right

2030
01:16:06,169 --> 01:16:04,080
up to the right the Drone like it was

2031
01:16:09,110 --> 01:16:06,179
crystal clear it wasn't in Fleur it was

2032
01:16:11,330 --> 01:16:09,120
it was just video mode and we need

2033
01:16:13,189 --> 01:16:11,340
something like that to get people

2034
01:16:14,870 --> 01:16:13,199
excited to get the public excited about

2035
01:16:16,370 --> 01:16:14,880
it

2036
01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:16,380
um what time is the here the hearing was

2037
01:16:22,189 --> 01:16:19,199
supposed to start at 10 30.

2038
01:16:24,890 --> 01:16:22,199
10 30 Eastern time sorry

2039
01:16:27,470 --> 01:16:24,900
but what time you mean that the club the

2040
01:16:29,450 --> 01:16:27,480
classified hearing no no you're right

2041
01:16:31,430 --> 01:16:29,460
you're right it's a half so we're half

2042
01:16:33,290 --> 01:16:31,440
an hour into the the beginning of the

2043
01:16:35,330 --> 01:16:33,300
meeting and we and it's supposed to

2044
01:16:37,189 --> 01:16:35,340
start on the classified side

2045
01:16:39,070 --> 01:16:37,199
and that could go on for hours for all

2046
01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:39,080
we know if if

2047
01:16:42,530 --> 01:16:41,040
Kirkpatrick's like all right you know

2048
01:16:44,870 --> 01:16:42,540
what here we go I'm gonna show you

2049
01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:44,880
everything I got and you see gillibrand

2050
01:16:50,209 --> 01:16:48,000
and and Elizabeth Warren those are the

2051
01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:50,219
two most popular names on there like

2052
01:16:54,530 --> 01:16:52,320
we've got the mouths open like oh my God

2053
01:16:56,450 --> 01:16:54,540
we have bodies

2054
01:17:00,350 --> 01:16:56,460
yeah

2055
01:17:01,790 --> 01:17:00,360
improbable and stay ahead of the whole

2056
01:17:03,050 --> 01:17:01,800
game think Sherlock when you have

2057
01:17:05,570 --> 01:17:03,060
eliminated the impossible whatever

2058
01:17:06,709 --> 01:17:05,580
remains however improbable must be the

2059
01:17:08,930 --> 01:17:06,719
truth yeah I don't know what's

2060
01:17:12,530 --> 01:17:08,940
improbable that's the problem it's like

2061
01:17:14,750 --> 01:17:12,540
you know I don't like I also don't like

2062
01:17:16,910 --> 01:17:14,760
the most likely game what's most likely

2063
01:17:19,189 --> 01:17:16,920
I don't like that game because I want

2064
01:17:21,890 --> 01:17:19,199
because most likely things happen all

2065
01:17:24,590 --> 01:17:21,900
the time right um so I don't like to

2066
01:17:26,450 --> 01:17:24,600
play that game

2067
01:17:29,209 --> 01:17:26,460
but this is the opposite I think of what

2068
01:17:30,169 --> 01:17:29,219
it looks like this this is a good way of

2069
01:17:31,850 --> 01:17:30,179
thinking

2070
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:31,860
somebody says little Brands YouTube is

2071
01:17:36,229 --> 01:17:34,800
set to go live at 11 so that's now so

2072
01:17:38,390 --> 01:17:36,239
let's hope

2073
01:17:40,490 --> 01:17:38,400
this happens and hopefully my audio is

2074
01:17:44,709 --> 01:17:40,500
is I think it should be

2075
01:17:53,169 --> 01:17:48,590
what did we miss oh my God sunshine it's

2076
01:17:57,649 --> 01:17:53,179
okay it's okay okay I'm not a narcissist

2077
01:18:01,729 --> 01:17:57,659
he calls you out yeah tell that my guy I

2078
01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:02,510
um

2079
01:18:07,370 --> 01:18:05,040
any speculation and sorry if I missed

2080
01:18:09,290 --> 01:18:07,380
questions a lot any speculation on why

2081
01:18:10,910 --> 01:18:09,300
no imagery from shot down objects

2082
01:18:12,410 --> 01:18:10,920
recently other than the Chinese balloon

2083
01:18:14,870 --> 01:18:12,420
but no problem with them releasing video

2084
01:18:17,390 --> 01:18:14,880
Russian yeah Mike just pointed that out

2085
01:18:18,709 --> 01:18:17,400
I don't know I know a lot of people have

2086
01:18:20,689 --> 01:18:18,719
speculated that those three other

2087
01:18:23,630 --> 01:18:20,699
objects that were taken down

2088
01:18:26,149 --> 01:18:23,640
or something you know

2089
01:18:27,410 --> 01:18:26,159
unique in condorman on Twitter it's like

2090
01:18:28,850 --> 01:18:27,420
it doesn't make sense that they're not

2091
01:18:30,470 --> 01:18:28,860
showing us anything and they can't find

2092
01:18:32,630 --> 01:18:30,480
it of course they can find the stuff but

2093
01:18:34,370 --> 01:18:32,640
I don't know I don't know I think it was

2094
01:18:39,130 --> 01:18:34,380
just I think it was just us weather

2095
01:18:45,229 --> 01:18:42,950
and I think Biden was pressured I

2096
01:18:46,970 --> 01:18:45,239
remember Chris sharp said he thinks

2097
01:18:48,770 --> 01:18:46,980
thought it was part partly political and

2098
01:18:50,810 --> 01:18:48,780
I criticized them for that but I think

2099
01:18:52,850 --> 01:18:50,820
he was right I think it was political

2100
01:18:53,570 --> 01:18:52,860
theater a little bit

2101
01:18:55,790 --> 01:18:53,580
um

2102
01:18:57,290 --> 01:18:55,800
I asked somebody today one of the

2103
01:18:58,550 --> 01:18:57,300
quote-unquote Insiders if they were

2104
01:19:00,229 --> 01:18:58,560
watching and they said no I'm not going

2105
01:19:01,250 --> 01:19:00,239
to watch the political Theater which I

2106
01:19:02,810 --> 01:19:01,260
was kind of

2107
01:19:04,669 --> 01:19:02,820
interesting I'm an Insider I don't need

2108
01:19:06,229 --> 01:19:04,679
to that's what they say I'm an Insider I

2109
01:19:08,090 --> 01:19:06,239
know why would I need to watch that I

2110
01:19:10,250 --> 01:19:08,100
already know what's going on of course I

2111
01:19:12,410 --> 01:19:10,260
think people with the three shoot Downs

2112
01:19:15,050 --> 01:19:12,420
people really gravitate towards the one

2113
01:19:18,050 --> 01:19:15,060
that was shot over Alaska that seems to

2114
01:19:20,209 --> 01:19:18,060
be like Condor man suggested that that's

2115
01:19:22,669 --> 01:19:20,219
the special one that we should ask more

2116
01:19:24,470 --> 01:19:22,679
questions about right

2117
01:19:26,450 --> 01:19:24,480
no he's a really smart guy I think he's

2118
01:19:27,890 --> 01:19:26,460
an aerospace engineer

2119
01:19:34,010 --> 01:19:27,900
yeah

2120
01:19:35,810 --> 01:19:34,020
know I mean I've never met him I told

2121
01:19:37,370 --> 01:19:35,820
him to stop by he comes to Vegas

2122
01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:37,380
um so he says some fascinating things

2123
01:19:40,850 --> 01:19:38,880
though I follow him on Twitter he does

2124
01:19:42,410 --> 01:19:40,860
he does um

2125
01:19:43,970 --> 01:19:42,420
we've gotten into it a little bit on the

2126
01:19:45,590 --> 01:19:43,980
black technology whether or not you know

2127
01:19:48,350 --> 01:19:45,600
maybe the Tic Tac might be ours and

2128
01:19:49,189 --> 01:19:48,360
everybody's like no he's like no way

2129
01:19:51,290 --> 01:19:49,199
um

2130
01:19:52,729 --> 01:19:51,300
I don't understand they claim the Fleer

2131
01:19:54,350 --> 01:19:52,739
one footage was a hoax and 10 years

2132
01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:54,360
later it was confirmed genuine images or

2133
01:19:59,090 --> 01:19:56,640
videos like that are alone oh so he's

2134
01:20:00,890 --> 01:19:59,100
talking about how it was uploaded on in

2135
01:20:02,530 --> 01:20:00,900
2007

2136
01:20:06,169 --> 01:20:02,540
and then

2137
01:20:07,850 --> 01:20:06,179
Secret said where he was debunking it so

2138
01:20:09,770 --> 01:20:07,860
this is not real and then it came out in

2139
01:20:11,149 --> 01:20:09,780
New York Times 2007. yeah and they still

2140
01:20:12,590 --> 01:20:11,159
debunked it back then and then I

2141
01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:12,600
remember John Lear I mean I know John

2142
01:20:17,030 --> 01:20:15,120
Lear in his last later years was

2143
01:20:18,590 --> 01:20:17,040
uh I didn't agree with a lot of what he

2144
01:20:20,090 --> 01:20:18,600
said but he talked about how he goes oh

2145
01:20:22,070 --> 01:20:20,100
that audio's fake you would never have

2146
01:20:24,709 --> 01:20:22,080
Pilots talking like that I'm like what

2147
01:20:27,530 --> 01:20:24,719
are you talking about yeah and I guess

2148
01:20:29,390 --> 01:20:27,540
the Fleur one that we like was publicly

2149
01:20:32,689 --> 01:20:29,400
released mainstream didn't have any

2150
01:20:34,490 --> 01:20:32,699
audio but I guess maybe a version did at

2151
01:20:36,290 --> 01:20:34,500
some point

2152
01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:36,300
I don't know

2153
01:20:44,090 --> 01:20:41,040
Chad Underwood saying anything on that

2154
01:20:45,830 --> 01:20:44,100
flare one video no and there was audio

2155
01:20:47,450 --> 01:20:45,840
they said it just didn't make it to that

2156
01:20:49,669 --> 01:20:47,460
copy something happened where the audio

2157
01:20:51,770 --> 01:20:49,679
didn't make it but there was audio and

2158
01:20:53,870 --> 01:20:51,780
there was allegedly a longer version on

2159
01:20:56,810 --> 01:20:53,880
the journal right that couldn't be

2160
01:20:59,090 --> 01:20:56,820
uploaded because it was a WMV Kodak blah

2161
01:21:00,770 --> 01:20:59,100
blah and then other words so he recorded

2162
01:21:02,270 --> 01:21:00,780
the entire time he goes well you

2163
01:21:04,430 --> 01:21:02,280
wouldn't really see much because it

2164
01:21:05,990 --> 01:21:04,440
wasn't really showing up on the Fleer

2165
01:21:08,209 --> 01:21:06,000
was more on the radar because he said I

2166
01:21:09,709 --> 01:21:08,219
was making Maneuvers I don't know his

2167
01:21:12,110 --> 01:21:09,719
exact wording but Defying Gravity

2168
01:21:15,530 --> 01:21:12,120
something like that yeah and but they

2169
01:21:18,410 --> 01:21:15,540
did like Alex Dietrich uh Dave fraver

2170
01:21:20,330 --> 01:21:18,420
Chad Underwood they all saw like a clear

2171
01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:20,340
version of it because it's been

2172
01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:22,080
downgraded and converted so many times

2173
01:21:26,630 --> 01:21:24,239
over the years

2174
01:21:28,130 --> 01:21:26,640
and we've been talking about air

2175
01:21:29,870 --> 01:21:28,140
resolution but like we've been talking

2176
01:21:32,270 --> 01:21:29,880
about the same three cases for five

2177
01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:32,280
years over five years now it's it's a

2178
01:21:37,010 --> 01:21:34,560
it's ridiculous I mean credit to us in

2179
01:21:40,669 --> 01:21:37,020
this community for getting the most out

2180
01:21:42,229 --> 01:21:40,679
of three videos yeah like come on I mean

2181
01:21:44,330 --> 01:21:42,239
you know we have the Corbell videos too

2182
01:21:46,189 --> 01:21:44,340
but they're not they're not government

2183
01:21:48,950 --> 01:21:46,199
Fleer videos in this Con they're

2184
01:21:52,970 --> 01:21:48,960
controversy they're controversial also

2185
01:21:55,850 --> 01:21:52,980
the 2019 stuff I do think 2019

2186
01:21:59,209 --> 01:21:55,860
is unknown I'm not saying it's aliens it

2187
01:21:59,990 --> 01:21:59,219
could be black Tech but it's like

2188
01:22:01,669 --> 01:22:00,000
um

2189
01:22:03,229 --> 01:22:01,679
hopefully more people came out you know

2190
01:22:05,090 --> 01:22:03,239
he interviewed a couple of witnesses and

2191
01:22:06,770 --> 01:22:05,100
more than a couple but a couple allowed

2192
01:22:08,270 --> 01:22:06,780
him to use their audio there's more he's

2193
01:22:09,890 --> 01:22:08,280
interviewed that they won't allow him to

2194
01:22:11,870 --> 01:22:09,900
use interviews yet because they're

2195
01:22:13,490 --> 01:22:11,880
either active duty or it can affect

2196
01:22:15,169 --> 01:22:13,500
their jobs and I know people get

2197
01:22:17,030 --> 01:22:15,179
frustrated but you can't blame these

2198
01:22:19,130 --> 01:22:17,040
people who the hell wants to they don't

2199
01:22:20,689 --> 01:22:19,140
want to lose their jobs I mean yeah you

2200
01:22:22,430 --> 01:22:20,699
know

2201
01:22:24,709 --> 01:22:22,440
yeah people need to get real sometimes

2202
01:22:26,750 --> 01:22:24,719
for that stuff it's like Lou I remember

2203
01:22:28,430 --> 01:22:26,760
early on people were like Lou should

2204
01:22:29,630 --> 01:22:28,440
just say everything and just come out

2205
01:22:31,070 --> 01:22:29,640
and talk about everything really he's

2206
01:22:33,649 --> 01:22:31,080
talking about classified stuff and take

2207
01:22:35,030 --> 01:22:33,659
a chance on going to prison come on you

2208
01:22:36,890 --> 01:22:35,040
know what I don't understand Joe you're

2209
01:22:38,330 --> 01:22:36,900
saying like how we're obsessed with like

2210
01:22:40,850 --> 01:22:38,340
the three videos

2211
01:22:43,970 --> 01:22:40,860
is how come no one pays attention to the

2212
01:22:50,810 --> 01:22:47,149
to the what the USS Ronald Reagan story

2213
01:22:55,310 --> 01:22:50,820
with 2004 when the big or Blake thing

2214
01:22:57,310 --> 01:22:55,320
came down over uh this is no video

2215
01:22:59,990 --> 01:22:57,320
yeah I guess

2216
01:23:02,450 --> 01:23:00,000
it's like such a big story though it is

2217
01:23:03,950 --> 01:23:02,460
done so many witnesses who won Dave has

2218
01:23:06,470 --> 01:23:03,960
worked on right yeah he doesn't yeah

2219
01:23:09,050 --> 01:23:06,480
exactly he's done excellent work on it I

2220
01:23:10,010 --> 01:23:09,060
met Dave in 90. we worked at a TV didn't

2221
01:23:12,890 --> 01:23:10,020
you know did you know that we worked at

2222
01:23:14,810 --> 01:23:12,900
a TV station together yep yeah that's

2223
01:23:19,669 --> 01:23:14,820
all he talks about you tell he DMS me he

2224
01:23:22,850 --> 01:23:21,709
oh did you I didn't know that oh you

2225
01:23:24,950 --> 01:23:22,860
didn't know that he played keyboard I

2226
01:23:26,390 --> 01:23:24,960
played drums who did a lot of Rush a lot

2227
01:23:28,610 --> 01:23:26,400
of Rush

2228
01:23:30,290 --> 01:23:28,620
um does Russia have the most you need

2229
01:23:32,390 --> 01:23:30,300
the biggest drum set for Rush don't you

2230
01:23:34,550 --> 01:23:32,400
yes but I didn't have that big drum sets

2231
01:23:37,189 --> 01:23:34,560
I pretended

2232
01:23:38,990 --> 01:23:37,199
um hurry up and wait exactly and once we

2233
01:23:41,990 --> 01:23:39,000
get going it could be a three-hour

2234
01:23:43,850 --> 01:23:42,000
hearing which I don't think yeah I know

2235
01:23:47,709 --> 01:23:43,860
I was on a German show that it was like

2236
01:23:50,149 --> 01:23:47,719
I think I did five hours I was the guest

2237
01:23:52,910 --> 01:23:50,159
did you have a break

2238
01:23:55,490 --> 01:23:52,920
I don't we need to have a lot of breaks

2239
01:23:58,310 --> 01:23:55,500
um the guy was really really passionate

2240
01:23:59,750 --> 01:23:58,320
and he paid for the right to use the

2241
01:24:01,850 --> 01:23:59,760
same music that Art Bell basically

2242
01:24:03,770 --> 01:24:01,860
whatever license for ASCAP and BMI he

2243
01:24:06,290 --> 01:24:03,780
paid for that license but you have to

2244
01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:06,300
make money to do that because

2245
01:24:09,950 --> 01:24:08,400
it's expensive to do that and then he

2246
01:24:11,450 --> 01:24:09,960
didn't make money and he had to stop it

2247
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:11,460
stopped but he was doing really long

2248
01:24:19,910 --> 01:24:17,149
yes Rush is my favorite band I'm one of

2249
01:24:21,709 --> 01:24:19,920
the top three and they're Canadian so

2250
01:24:25,070 --> 01:24:21,719
Mike has to like that and he has to like

2251
01:24:27,110 --> 01:24:25,080
hockey yep

2252
01:24:31,010 --> 01:24:27,120
that's for you Mike

2253
01:24:33,590 --> 01:24:31,910
um

2254
01:24:37,130 --> 01:24:33,600
I'm married and you wouldn't once you

2255
01:24:40,669 --> 01:24:38,630
I've been following this subject since

2256
01:24:43,130 --> 01:24:40,679
1975 when you take a step back and look

2257
01:24:44,930 --> 01:24:43,140
at what's happened since the 40s you'll

2258
01:24:47,149 --> 01:24:44,940
see something it's destroyed 50 of my

2259
01:24:48,950 --> 01:24:47,159
interest in the subject I don't really

2260
01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:48,960
understand

2261
01:24:52,310 --> 01:24:50,880
nothing will destroy my interest unless

2262
01:24:55,550 --> 01:24:52,320
we're here a year from now and nothing

2263
01:24:56,750 --> 01:24:55,560
has changed that will hurt my answer

2264
01:24:58,250 --> 01:24:56,760
yeah

2265
01:24:59,450 --> 01:24:58,260
because a lot of people have been

2266
01:25:01,130 --> 01:24:59,460
putting their cards on the table

2267
01:25:04,189 --> 01:25:01,140
recently and saying something's gonna

2268
01:25:05,750 --> 01:25:04,199
happen in the next six months yeah and I

2269
01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:05,760
said that nothing happens in the next

2270
01:25:09,830 --> 01:25:07,920
six months you're like okay this is old

2271
01:25:11,689 --> 01:25:09,840
yeah I don't I will not blame people if

2272
01:25:14,090 --> 01:25:11,699
they get frustrated and annoyed if

2273
01:25:16,430 --> 01:25:14,100
nothing happens in the next six months

2274
01:25:18,229 --> 01:25:16,440
and and like I said those whistleblowers

2275
01:25:19,850 --> 01:25:18,239
I hope they're good I hope they're I

2276
01:25:21,950 --> 01:25:19,860
hope it's not ambiguous and it's hope

2277
01:25:26,270 --> 01:25:21,960
there's some evidence to back it up yeah

2278
01:25:27,290 --> 01:25:26,280
or like I saw a UFO once okay oh my god

2279
01:25:28,850 --> 01:25:27,300
um

2280
01:25:31,010 --> 01:25:28,860
has Lou come forward as a whistleblower

2281
01:25:33,350 --> 01:25:31,020
told everything he claims he can't say

2282
01:25:35,570 --> 01:25:33,360
because of NDA well I don't really

2283
01:25:37,810 --> 01:25:35,580
consider a whistleblower he's somebody

2284
01:25:40,430 --> 01:25:37,820
who worked in a program and

2285
01:25:43,010 --> 01:25:40,440
resigned and then just spoke about the

2286
01:25:44,930 --> 01:25:43,020
program he hasn't oh I mean

2287
01:25:48,350 --> 01:25:44,940
for me a whistleblower would be coming

2288
01:25:51,110 --> 01:25:48,360
out and saying I worked in a classified

2289
01:25:52,610 --> 01:25:51,120
program I'm not supposed to be talking

2290
01:25:54,410 --> 01:25:52,620
about it right now but you know what

2291
01:25:56,149 --> 01:25:54,420
this is the most important subject in

2292
01:25:58,490 --> 01:25:56,159
the history of humanity and I don't care

2293
01:26:00,290 --> 01:25:58,500
anymore I'm gonna tell you right now I

2294
01:26:02,390 --> 01:26:00,300
worked on Craft I had my hands on Craft

2295
01:26:04,070 --> 01:26:02,400
they were non-human they were not made

2296
01:26:06,050 --> 01:26:04,080
we know there were bodies found inside

2297
01:26:08,629 --> 01:26:06,060
they were not human bodies or at least

2298
01:26:10,310 --> 01:26:08,639
not humans that we know about if there

2299
01:26:13,010 --> 01:26:10,320
are future humans maybe but it's not

2300
01:26:15,229 --> 01:26:13,020
something made by us if that's that's

2301
01:26:17,689 --> 01:26:15,239
what I consider a whistleblower or

2302
01:26:20,330 --> 01:26:17,699
somebody who leaks the 23 minute video

2303
01:26:21,709 --> 01:26:20,340
and says yeah I I I'm and then the

2304
01:26:23,270 --> 01:26:21,719
pilots come out and talk about it

2305
01:26:26,270 --> 01:26:23,280
something like that I don't consider

2306
01:26:28,610 --> 01:26:26,280
Louisville I know he rejected it early

2307
01:26:30,050 --> 01:26:28,620
on people were calling him whistleblower

2308
01:26:31,490 --> 01:26:30,060
and he's like I'm not really a

2309
01:26:32,930 --> 01:26:31,500
whistleblower and then people kept doing

2310
01:26:34,790 --> 01:26:32,940
it he just stopped correcting them

2311
01:26:37,189 --> 01:26:34,800
because it gets tiring after a while

2312
01:26:41,689 --> 01:26:37,199
yeah

2313
01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:41,699
provides something that gives you like

2314
01:26:46,129 --> 01:26:44,400
no wiggle room of like like Oh you mean

2315
01:26:49,070 --> 01:26:46,139
like a retrieval of a human Tech like

2316
01:26:51,410 --> 01:26:49,080
crash truly no not retrieval of human

2317
01:26:53,270 --> 01:26:51,420
text something that we did not make

2318
01:26:55,129 --> 01:26:53,280
yeah well even that I mean there could

2319
01:26:56,930 --> 01:26:55,139
be human Tech whistleblowers I mean like

2320
01:26:59,030 --> 01:26:56,940
yeah I worked in a program and we made

2321
01:27:00,290 --> 01:26:59,040
this we made this we made the Tic Tac

2322
01:27:01,550 --> 01:27:00,300
you know it's like something like that I

2323
01:27:03,290 --> 01:27:01,560
would that would be oh yeah that's a

2324
01:27:07,129 --> 01:27:03,300
good that's a really good point if you

2325
01:27:11,390 --> 01:27:08,750
do you think one reason the phenomena

2326
01:27:12,950 --> 01:27:11,400
has been hidden from public view is that

2327
01:27:14,810 --> 01:27:12,960
the phenomenon may do something

2328
01:27:16,729 --> 01:27:14,820
dangerous once exposed and known to the

2329
01:27:17,930 --> 01:27:16,739
mainstream public it could be and then a

2330
01:27:19,729 --> 01:27:17,940
lot Lou said that there's certain people

2331
01:27:23,390 --> 01:27:19,739
that he's spoken to who said they think

2332
01:27:25,010 --> 01:27:23,400
once it knows that we know then it's

2333
01:27:26,930 --> 01:27:25,020
going to push up whatever plan it has

2334
01:27:28,310 --> 01:27:26,940
and just do it

2335
01:27:31,129 --> 01:27:28,320
um yeah he doesn't really buy that he

2336
01:27:33,470 --> 01:27:31,139
goes but I understand the thinking

2337
01:27:35,689 --> 01:27:33,480
um so yeah could be

2338
01:27:37,189 --> 01:27:35,699
it's a possibility that's if it's

2339
01:27:38,510 --> 01:27:37,199
negative which I don't know and I

2340
01:27:40,250 --> 01:27:38,520
definitely do think some of this is

2341
01:27:42,169 --> 01:27:40,260
negative and some of it uses us for

2342
01:27:45,050 --> 01:27:42,179
whatever reasons whether it's for

2343
01:27:47,390 --> 01:27:45,060
you know DNA or whatever

2344
01:27:49,430 --> 01:27:47,400
how do you feel about the uh how do you

2345
01:27:51,470 --> 01:27:49,440
feel about the John Ramirez prophecy of

2346
01:27:53,870 --> 01:27:51,480
2027.

2347
01:27:55,990 --> 01:27:53,880
so you put much thought into that I'm

2348
01:27:58,430 --> 01:27:56,000
not a big John Ramirez

2349
01:28:00,890 --> 01:27:58,440
I'd first like to thank our winners Dr

2350
01:28:02,810 --> 01:28:00,900
Sean Kirkpatrick for testifying here and

2351
01:28:04,250 --> 01:28:02,820
in today's earlier closed session and

2352
01:28:06,290 --> 01:28:04,260
for his long and distinguished career

2353
01:28:07,970 --> 01:28:06,300
both in the intelligence community and

2354
01:28:10,189 --> 01:28:07,980
in the Department of Defense Dr

2355
01:28:12,470 --> 01:28:10,199
Kirkpatrick is the director of the all

2356
01:28:14,750 --> 01:28:12,480
domain anomaly resolution office or

2357
01:28:16,970 --> 01:28:14,760
Arrow Congress established this office

2358
01:28:18,410 --> 01:28:16,980
in law to get to the bottom of the very

2359
01:28:21,290 --> 01:28:18,420
serious problem of unidentified

2360
01:28:23,330 --> 01:28:21,300
anomalous phenomenon or UAP Dr

2361
01:28:25,550 --> 01:28:23,340
Kirkpatrick has a very difficult Mission

2362
01:28:27,050 --> 01:28:25,560
while we have made progress there

2363
01:28:29,270 --> 01:28:27,060
remains a stigma attached to these

2364
01:28:31,850 --> 01:28:29,280
phenomenon there is a vast and complex

2365
01:28:33,649 --> 01:28:31,860
citizen engagement and there's also very

2366
01:28:35,870 --> 01:28:33,659
challenging scientific and Technical

2367
01:28:38,510 --> 01:28:35,880
hurdles so we appreciate the willingness

2368
01:28:40,189 --> 01:28:38,520
of Dr Kirkpatrick to lean in on this

2369
01:28:41,990 --> 01:28:40,199
issue and the work that he has

2370
01:28:43,850 --> 01:28:42,000
accomplished thus far and we look

2371
01:28:46,010 --> 01:28:43,860
forward to both his opening statement

2372
01:28:49,370 --> 01:28:46,020
and his presentation of examples of the

2373
01:28:51,169 --> 01:28:49,380
work Arrow has done in late 2017 media

2374
01:28:53,270 --> 01:28:51,179
reports surfaced about activity set in

2375
01:28:55,550 --> 01:28:53,280
motion by the late long-serving Majority

2376
01:28:57,470 --> 01:28:55,560
Leader Senator Harry Reid more than a

2377
01:28:58,970 --> 01:28:57,480
decade ago we learned that there was

2378
01:29:00,410 --> 01:28:58,980
strong evidence that advanced technology

2379
01:29:01,850 --> 01:29:00,420
reflected in the features and

2380
01:29:04,550 --> 01:29:01,860
performance characteristics of many

2381
01:29:06,530 --> 01:29:04,560
objects observed by our highly trained

2382
01:29:08,629 --> 01:29:06,540
service members operating top of the

2383
01:29:10,729 --> 01:29:08,639
line military equipment

2384
01:29:12,590 --> 01:29:10,739
we learned that for the at least the

2385
01:29:14,510 --> 01:29:12,600
past eight years military Pilots

2386
01:29:16,729 --> 01:29:14,520
frequently encountered unknown objects

2387
01:29:18,590 --> 01:29:16,739
in controlled airspace off both the east

2388
01:29:20,810 --> 01:29:18,600
and west coast across the continental

2389
01:29:23,689 --> 01:29:20,820
United States in test and training areas

2390
01:29:25,550 --> 01:29:23,699
and ranges we don't know where they are

2391
01:29:27,649 --> 01:29:25,560
they come from who made them or how they

2392
01:29:30,050 --> 01:29:27,659
operate as former deputy secretary of

2393
01:29:31,550 --> 01:29:30,060
defense David norquist observed had any

2394
01:29:33,649 --> 01:29:31,560
of these objects had the label made in

2395
01:29:35,450 --> 01:29:33,659
China there would be an uproar in the

2396
01:29:37,310 --> 01:29:35,460
government and media there would be no

2397
01:29:39,290 --> 01:29:37,320
stone unturned and no efforts spared to

2398
01:29:40,729 --> 01:29:39,300
find out what we were dealing with we

2399
01:29:42,890 --> 01:29:40,739
can look at the recent incursion of the

2400
01:29:44,450 --> 01:29:42,900
unidentified PRC high altitude balloon

2401
01:29:46,490 --> 01:29:44,460
for as an example

2402
01:29:48,250 --> 01:29:46,500
because and but because of the UFO

2403
01:29:51,169 --> 01:29:48,260
stigma the response has been

2404
01:29:53,209 --> 01:29:51,179
irresponsibly anemic and slow Congress

2405
01:29:55,490 --> 01:29:53,219
established Arrow we made it clear that

2406
01:29:57,110 --> 01:29:55,500
we expect vigorous action we added very

2407
01:29:59,570 --> 01:29:57,120
substantial initial funding for the

2408
01:30:01,490 --> 01:29:59,580
office but despite our best efforts the

2409
01:30:03,709 --> 01:30:01,500
president's budget for fiscu is 23 and

2410
01:30:05,629 --> 01:30:03,719
24 requested only enough funding to

2411
01:30:07,910 --> 01:30:05,639
defray the operating expenses of Arrow

2412
01:30:09,229 --> 01:30:07,920
it included almost no funds to sustain

2413
01:30:10,610 --> 01:30:09,239
the critical research and development

2414
01:30:12,470 --> 01:30:10,620
necessary to support a serious

2415
01:30:14,330 --> 01:30:12,480
investigation it took a letter to

2416
01:30:16,430 --> 01:30:14,340
secretary Austin from Senator Rubio and

2417
01:30:18,169 --> 01:30:16,440
me and 14 other Senators to get the

2418
01:30:20,390 --> 01:30:18,179
office temporary relief for the current

2419
01:30:23,090 --> 01:30:20,400
fiscal year in this hearing I tend to

2420
01:30:24,709 --> 01:30:23,100
probe a series of specific issues in the

2421
01:30:26,629 --> 01:30:24,719
recent incidents where multiple objects

2422
01:30:28,189 --> 01:30:26,639
were shot down over North America it

2423
01:30:30,530 --> 01:30:28,199
seemed that Pentagon leadership did not

2424
01:30:32,450 --> 01:30:30,540
turn to Aero office to play a leading

2425
01:30:33,830 --> 01:30:32,460
role in advising the combatant commander

2426
01:30:35,330 --> 01:30:33,840
we need to know whether this will

2427
01:30:37,250 --> 01:30:35,340
continue we need to know whether the

2428
01:30:38,870 --> 01:30:37,260
leadership in DOD will bring Arrow into

2429
01:30:40,970 --> 01:30:38,880
the decision-making process in a visible

2430
01:30:42,649 --> 01:30:40,980
way and we need to know what role Arrow

2431
01:30:45,830 --> 01:30:42,659
will play in inter-agency coordination

2432
01:30:47,629 --> 01:30:45,840
after the NSC working group just fans in

2433
01:30:49,310 --> 01:30:47,639
the fiscal year 2023 National Defense

2434
01:30:51,530 --> 01:30:49,320
and intelligence authorization acts

2435
01:30:53,270 --> 01:30:51,540
Congress established a direct reporting

2436
01:30:55,430 --> 01:30:53,280
chain from the arrow director to the

2437
01:30:56,870 --> 01:30:55,440
deputy secretary of defense the role of

2438
01:30:58,669 --> 01:30:56,880
the office of the under secretary of

2439
01:31:00,470 --> 01:30:58,679
defense for intelligence and security is

2440
01:31:02,510 --> 01:31:00,480
limited to providing administrative

2441
01:31:04,370 --> 01:31:02,520
support we need to know how this

2442
01:31:06,890 --> 01:31:04,380
direction is being implemented

2443
01:31:09,050 --> 01:31:06,900
uapf frequently observed flying in

2444
01:31:10,790 --> 01:31:09,060
extremely high or very low speeds and

2445
01:31:12,470 --> 01:31:10,800
come in various sizes and shapes during

2446
01:31:15,770 --> 01:31:12,480
the recent shootdowns over North America

2447
01:31:17,390 --> 01:31:15,780
DOD disclosed that filters on radar

2448
01:31:19,010 --> 01:31:17,400
systems were adjusted to allow for

2449
01:31:20,930 --> 01:31:19,020
detection and tracking of diverse sets

2450
01:31:22,910 --> 01:31:20,940
of objects for the first time while

2451
01:31:25,189 --> 01:31:22,920
opening the aperture can overload the

2452
01:31:26,870 --> 01:31:25,199
real-time analytic process we cannot

2453
01:31:28,430 --> 01:31:26,880
keep turning a blind eye to surveillance

2454
01:31:30,649 --> 01:31:28,440
data that is critical to detecting

2455
01:31:32,090 --> 01:31:30,659
attracting UAP we need to know whether

2456
01:31:33,890 --> 01:31:32,100
Dr Kirkpatrick could achieve the

2457
01:31:36,290 --> 01:31:33,900
necessary control over sensor filters

2458
01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:36,300
and the storage and access to Raw

2459
01:31:40,490 --> 01:31:38,400
surveillance data to find UAP anomalies

2460
01:31:42,649 --> 01:31:40,500
finally one of the tasks Congress set

2461
01:31:45,229 --> 01:31:42,659
for Arrow is serving as an open door for

2462
01:31:47,510 --> 01:31:45,239
Witnesses of UAP events or participants

2463
01:31:49,550 --> 01:31:47,520
in government activities related to uaps

2464
01:31:51,050 --> 01:31:49,560
to come forward securely and disclose

2465
01:31:53,330 --> 01:31:51,060
what they know without fear of

2466
01:31:55,250 --> 01:31:53,340
Retribution for any possible violations

2467
01:31:57,590 --> 01:31:55,260
of previously signed non-disclosure

2468
01:31:59,870 --> 01:31:57,600
agreements Congress mandated that arrow

2469
01:32:01,790 --> 01:31:59,880
set up a publicly discoverable and

2470
01:32:03,649 --> 01:32:01,800
accessible process for safe disclosure

2471
01:32:05,870 --> 01:32:03,659
while we know that Arrow has already

2472
01:32:08,270 --> 01:32:05,880
conducted a sign number of interviews

2473
01:32:10,610 --> 01:32:08,280
many referred by Congress we need to set

2474
01:32:12,410 --> 01:32:10,620
up a public process that that and we

2475
01:32:14,030 --> 01:32:12,420
need to know where that effort stands

2476
01:32:15,649 --> 01:32:14,040
with that I'd like to turn to Senator

2477
01:32:17,510 --> 01:32:15,659
Ernst for her opening statement thank

2478
01:32:19,689 --> 01:32:17,520
you madam chair and thank you Dr

2479
01:32:22,669 --> 01:32:19,699
Kirkpatrick for your testimony today

2480
01:32:24,470 --> 01:32:22,679
I'll keep these remarks very brief so

2481
01:32:26,870 --> 01:32:24,480
that we have maximum time for your

2482
01:32:28,610 --> 01:32:26,880
briefing the recent Downing of the

2483
01:32:30,169 --> 01:32:28,620
Chinese surveillance surveillance

2484
01:32:32,390 --> 01:32:30,179
balloon and three other objects

2485
01:32:35,270 --> 01:32:32,400
underscores the need for domain

2486
01:32:37,550 --> 01:32:35,280
awareness adversaries like China and

2487
01:32:40,550 --> 01:32:37,560
Russia are working to hold U.S interests

2488
01:32:43,669 --> 01:32:40,560
including our homeland at risk that's

2489
01:32:45,770 --> 01:32:43,679
why your testimony is so important and I

2490
01:32:48,229 --> 01:32:45,780
so look forward to a progress update on

2491
01:32:49,910 --> 01:32:48,239
the establishment of your office as

2492
01:32:51,890 --> 01:32:49,920
members know your office evolved from

2493
01:32:54,830 --> 01:32:51,900
the navy-led unidentified aerial

2494
01:32:57,290 --> 01:32:54,840
phenomena task force to the all-domain

2495
01:33:00,169 --> 01:32:57,300
anomalous resolution office known as

2496
01:33:02,870 --> 01:33:00,179
Arrow Dr Kirkpatrick your extensive

2497
01:33:05,510 --> 01:33:02,880
background in science and technology

2498
01:33:07,910 --> 01:33:05,520
research and develop development and

2499
01:33:10,910 --> 01:33:07,920
space makes you well suited to discuss

2500
01:33:13,250 --> 01:33:10,920
these emerging challenges my priority is

2501
01:33:16,550 --> 01:33:13,260
that we understand the full range of

2502
01:33:18,890 --> 01:33:16,560
threats posed by our adversaries in all

2503
01:33:21,709 --> 01:33:18,900
domains that is what the Joint Force

2504
01:33:23,930 --> 01:33:21,719
needs to be prepared to fight and win in

2505
01:33:26,030 --> 01:33:23,940
defense of our nation this committee

2506
01:33:28,790 --> 01:33:26,040
needs to know about Chinese or Russian

2507
01:33:31,250 --> 01:33:28,800
advanced technology programs to exploit

2508
01:33:33,830 --> 01:33:31,260
our vulnerabilities and it needs to know

2509
01:33:36,169 --> 01:33:33,840
whether your office along with the IC

2510
01:33:38,750 --> 01:33:36,179
has detected potential Chinese or

2511
01:33:41,390 --> 01:33:38,760
Russian capabilities to surveil or

2512
01:33:44,169 --> 01:33:41,400
attack us finally we need to ensure

2513
01:33:47,930 --> 01:33:44,179
efficient interagency coordination

2514
01:33:51,350 --> 01:33:47,940
multiple elements of the dod and IC own

2515
01:33:54,350 --> 01:33:51,360
a piece of this mission to add value

2516
01:33:56,750 --> 01:33:54,360
arrows efforts cannot be redundant with

2517
01:33:59,330 --> 01:33:56,760
others thank you again we look forward

2518
01:34:01,430 --> 01:33:59,340
to your testimony

2519
01:34:03,590 --> 01:34:01,440
Dr Kirkpatrick you can give your

2520
01:34:06,110 --> 01:34:03,600
testimony

2521
01:34:08,090 --> 01:34:06,120
thank you chairwoman Jewel brand ranking

2522
01:34:09,590 --> 01:34:08,100
member Ernst distinguished members of

2523
01:34:11,149 --> 01:34:09,600
the subcommittee

2524
01:34:13,970 --> 01:34:11,159
it's a privilege to be here today to

2525
01:34:15,770 --> 01:34:13,980
testify on the defense defense's efforts

2526
01:34:16,910 --> 01:34:15,780
to address unidentified anomalous

2527
01:34:18,830 --> 01:34:16,920
phenomena

2528
01:34:20,750 --> 01:34:18,840
first I want to thank Congress for its

2529
01:34:22,129 --> 01:34:20,760
extensive and continued partnership as

2530
01:34:24,709 --> 01:34:22,139
the department works to better

2531
01:34:26,330 --> 01:34:24,719
understand and respond to UAP in an

2532
01:34:27,950 --> 01:34:26,340
effort to minimize Technical and

2533
01:34:30,709 --> 01:34:27,960
intelligence surprise

2534
01:34:32,629 --> 01:34:30,719
unidentified objects in any domain pose

2535
01:34:35,450 --> 01:34:32,639
potential risks to Safety and Security

2536
01:34:36,709 --> 01:34:35,460
particularly from military personnel and

2537
01:34:39,470 --> 01:34:36,719
capabilities

2538
01:34:42,410 --> 01:34:39,480
Congress and DOD agree that UAP cannot

2539
01:34:44,270 --> 01:34:42,420
remain unexamined or unaddressed

2540
01:34:46,010 --> 01:34:44,280
we are grateful for sustained

2541
01:34:48,110 --> 01:34:46,020
Congressional engagement on this issue

2542
01:34:50,030 --> 01:34:48,120
which paved the way for the dod's

2543
01:34:52,970 --> 01:34:50,040
establishment of the all-domain anomaly

2544
01:34:55,610 --> 01:34:52,980
resolution office in July of last year

2545
01:34:58,310 --> 01:34:55,620
though arrow is still a young office the

2546
01:35:00,169 --> 01:34:58,320
spotlight on UAP in recent months

2547
01:35:02,810 --> 01:35:00,179
underscores the importance of its work

2548
01:35:04,430 --> 01:35:02,820
and the need for UAP to be taken

2549
01:35:05,810 --> 01:35:04,440
seriously as a matter of National

2550
01:35:07,550 --> 01:35:05,820
Security

2551
01:35:10,370 --> 01:35:07,560
all leadership that I've had the

2552
01:35:13,610 --> 01:35:10,380
pleasure of working with whether DOD IC

2553
01:35:15,470 --> 01:35:13,620
doe civil scientific or industrial view

2554
01:35:16,850 --> 01:35:15,480
Congress as a critical partner in this

2555
01:35:19,430 --> 01:35:16,860
endeavor

2556
01:35:21,530 --> 01:35:19,440
Arrow has accomplished much in the last

2557
01:35:23,510 --> 01:35:21,540
nine months since it was established the

2558
01:35:25,970 --> 01:35:23,520
Aero team of more than three dozen

2559
01:35:28,550 --> 01:35:25,980
experts is organized around four

2560
01:35:30,709 --> 01:35:28,560
functional areas operations scientific

2561
01:35:32,629 --> 01:35:30,719
research integrated analysis and

2562
01:35:34,550 --> 01:35:32,639
strategic Communications

2563
01:35:36,169 --> 01:35:34,560
in the nine months since era's

2564
01:35:39,890 --> 01:35:36,179
establishment we've taken important

2565
01:35:42,050 --> 01:35:39,900
steps to involve and improve UAP data

2566
01:35:44,930 --> 01:35:42,060
collection standardize the Department's

2567
01:35:46,610 --> 01:35:44,940
UAP internal reporting requirements and

2568
01:35:49,430 --> 01:35:46,620
Implement a framework for rigorous

2569
01:35:51,770 --> 01:35:49,440
scientific and intelligence analysis

2570
01:35:54,410 --> 01:35:51,780
allowing us to resolve cases in a

2571
01:35:56,750 --> 01:35:54,420
systematic and prioritized manner

2572
01:35:58,790 --> 01:35:56,760
meanwhile consistent with legislative

2573
01:36:01,310 --> 01:35:58,800
direction arrow is also carefully

2574
01:36:03,290 --> 01:36:01,320
reviewing and researching the U.S

2575
01:36:04,729 --> 01:36:03,300
government's UAP related historical

2576
01:36:06,950 --> 01:36:04,739
record

2577
01:36:08,390 --> 01:36:06,960
arrow is leading a focused effort to

2578
01:36:10,070 --> 01:36:08,400
better characterize understand and

2579
01:36:12,590 --> 01:36:10,080
attribute UAP

2580
01:36:16,129 --> 01:36:12,600
with priority given to UAP reports by

2581
01:36:17,990 --> 01:36:16,139
DOD and IC Personnel in or near areas of

2582
01:36:20,750 --> 01:36:18,000
National Security importance

2583
01:36:21,649 --> 01:36:20,760
DOD fully appreciates the eagerness from

2584
01:36:23,930 --> 01:36:21,659
many

2585
01:36:25,370 --> 01:36:23,940
quarters especially here in Congress and

2586
01:36:28,010 --> 01:36:25,380
in the American public to quickly

2587
01:36:29,990 --> 01:36:28,020
resolve every UAP encountered across the

2588
01:36:30,890 --> 01:36:30,000
globe from the distant pass through

2589
01:36:33,050 --> 01:36:30,900
today

2590
01:36:35,870 --> 01:36:33,060
it's important to note however

2591
01:36:38,030 --> 01:36:35,880
arrow is the culmination of Decades of

2592
01:36:39,770 --> 01:36:38,040
DOD intelligence community and

2593
01:36:42,050 --> 01:36:39,780
congressionally directed efforts to

2594
01:36:43,970 --> 01:36:42,060
successfully resolve UAP encountered

2595
01:36:46,729 --> 01:36:43,980
first and foremost by U.S military

2596
01:36:48,110 --> 01:36:46,739
personnel specifically Navy and Air

2597
01:36:50,510 --> 01:36:48,120
Force pilots

2598
01:36:52,790 --> 01:36:50,520
the law establishing arrow is ambitious

2599
01:36:55,610 --> 01:36:52,800
and it will take time to realize the

2600
01:36:58,970 --> 01:36:55,620
full mission we cannot answer Decades of

2601
01:37:01,490 --> 01:36:58,980
questions about UAP all at once but we

2602
01:37:03,169 --> 01:37:01,500
must begin somewhere while I assure you

2603
01:37:05,750 --> 01:37:03,179
that Arrow will follow scientific

2604
01:37:08,330 --> 01:37:05,760
evidence wherever it leads I ask for

2605
01:37:09,950 --> 01:37:08,340
your patience as DOD first prioritizes

2606
01:37:12,229 --> 01:37:09,960
Safety and Security of our military

2607
01:37:13,490 --> 01:37:12,239
personnel and installations in all

2608
01:37:16,129 --> 01:37:13,500
domains

2609
01:37:18,470 --> 01:37:16,139
after all a UAP encountered first by

2610
01:37:20,750 --> 01:37:18,480
highly capable DOD and IC platforms

2611
01:37:23,689 --> 01:37:20,760
featuring the nation's most advanced

2612
01:37:26,209 --> 01:37:23,699
sensors are those UAP most likely to be

2613
01:37:27,470 --> 01:37:26,219
resolved by my office assuming the data

2614
01:37:30,050 --> 01:37:27,480
can be collected

2615
01:37:32,209 --> 01:37:30,060
if Arrow succeeds in first improving the

2616
01:37:34,430 --> 01:37:32,219
ability of military personnel to quickly

2617
01:37:36,890 --> 01:37:34,440
and confidently resolve UAP they

2618
01:37:38,930 --> 01:37:36,900
encounter I believe that in time we will

2619
01:37:40,250 --> 01:37:38,940
have greatly Advanced the capability of

2620
01:37:42,350 --> 01:37:40,260
the entire United States government

2621
01:37:43,970 --> 01:37:42,360
including its civilian agencies to

2622
01:37:46,490 --> 01:37:43,980
resolve UAP

2623
01:37:49,250 --> 01:37:46,500
however it would be naive to believe

2624
01:37:51,410 --> 01:37:49,260
that the resolution of all UAP can be

2625
01:37:52,189 --> 01:37:51,420
solely accomplished by the dod and IC

2626
01:37:54,110 --> 01:37:52,199
alone

2627
01:37:56,090 --> 01:37:54,120
we will need to prioritize collection

2628
01:37:57,709 --> 01:37:56,100
and leverage authorities for monitoring

2629
01:38:00,470 --> 01:37:57,719
all domains within the continental

2630
01:38:02,149 --> 01:38:00,480
United States Arrow's ultimate success

2631
01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:02,159
will require Partnerships with the

2632
01:38:06,950 --> 01:38:05,040
interagency industry Partners Academia

2633
01:38:08,149 --> 01:38:06,960
and the scientific Community as well as

2634
01:38:10,010 --> 01:38:08,159
the public

2635
01:38:12,350 --> 01:38:10,020
arrow is partnering with the services

2636
01:38:13,910 --> 01:38:12,360
intelligence Community doe as well as

2637
01:38:16,129 --> 01:38:13,920
civil partners and across the U.S

2638
01:38:17,990 --> 01:38:16,139
government to tap into this resources of

2639
01:38:20,629 --> 01:38:18,000
the interagency

2640
01:38:23,149 --> 01:38:20,639
the UAP challenge is more an operational

2641
01:38:24,709 --> 01:38:23,159
and scientific issue than it is an

2642
01:38:26,930 --> 01:38:24,719
intelligence issue

2643
01:38:28,910 --> 01:38:26,940
as such we are working with industry

2644
01:38:31,189 --> 01:38:28,920
Academia and the scientific Community

2645
01:38:33,709 --> 01:38:31,199
which bring their own resources ideas

2646
01:38:35,390 --> 01:38:33,719
and expertise to this challenging

2647
01:38:37,729 --> 01:38:35,400
problem set

2648
01:38:39,890 --> 01:38:37,739
robust collaboration and peer review

2649
01:38:41,570 --> 01:38:39,900
across a broad range of Partners will

2650
01:38:44,510 --> 01:38:41,580
promote greater objectivity and

2651
01:38:47,030 --> 01:38:44,520
transparency in the study of UAP

2652
01:38:49,430 --> 01:38:47,040
I want to underscore today that only a

2653
01:38:51,709 --> 01:38:49,440
very small percentage of UAP reports

2654
01:38:54,530 --> 01:38:51,719
display signatures that could reasonably

2655
01:38:56,750 --> 01:38:54,540
be described as anomalous the majority

2656
01:38:58,910 --> 01:38:56,760
of unidentified objects reported to

2657
01:39:01,310 --> 01:38:58,920
Arrow demonstrate mundane

2658
01:39:03,649 --> 01:39:01,320
characteristics of balloons unmanned

2659
01:39:06,470 --> 01:39:03,659
aerial systems clutter natural phenomena

2660
01:39:08,689 --> 01:39:06,480
other readily explainable sources

2661
01:39:11,149 --> 01:39:08,699
while a large number of cases in our

2662
01:39:14,090 --> 01:39:11,159
Holdings remain technically unresolved

2663
01:39:16,370 --> 01:39:14,100
this is primarily due to a lack of data

2664
01:39:18,649 --> 01:39:16,380
associated with those cases without

2665
01:39:20,510 --> 01:39:18,659
sufficient data we are unable to reach

2666
01:39:23,149 --> 01:39:20,520
defendable conclusions

2667
01:39:25,370 --> 01:39:23,159
that meet the high scientific standards

2668
01:39:27,410 --> 01:39:25,380
we set for resolution and I will not

2669
01:39:29,030 --> 01:39:27,420
close a case that I cannot defend the

2670
01:39:30,950 --> 01:39:29,040
conclusions of

2671
01:39:33,290 --> 01:39:30,960
I recognize that this answer is

2672
01:39:35,090 --> 01:39:33,300
unsatisfying to those who in good faith

2673
01:39:36,830 --> 01:39:35,100
assume that what they see with their

2674
01:39:39,169 --> 01:39:36,840
eyes with their cameras and what their

2675
01:39:40,850 --> 01:39:39,179
Radars is incontrovertible evidence of

2676
01:39:41,930 --> 01:39:40,860
extraordinary characteristics and

2677
01:39:43,669 --> 01:39:41,940
performance

2678
01:39:45,890 --> 01:39:43,679
yet time and again with sufficient

2679
01:39:49,610 --> 01:39:45,900
scientific quality data it is fact that

2680
01:39:52,129 --> 01:39:49,620
UAP often but not always resolve into

2681
01:39:54,229 --> 01:39:52,139
readily explainable sources

2682
01:39:56,149 --> 01:39:54,239
humans are subject to deception and

2683
01:39:58,610 --> 01:39:56,159
Illusions sensors to unexpected

2684
01:40:00,950 --> 01:39:58,620
responses and malfunctions and in some

2685
01:40:02,990 --> 01:40:00,960
cases intentional interference

2686
01:40:04,729 --> 01:40:03,000
getting to the handful of cases that

2687
01:40:06,229 --> 01:40:04,739
pass this level of scrutiny is the

2688
01:40:08,629 --> 01:40:06,239
mission of era

2689
01:40:10,550 --> 01:40:08,639
that is not to say that UAP once

2690
01:40:12,770 --> 01:40:10,560
resolved they're no longer of National

2691
01:40:15,110 --> 01:40:12,780
Security interest however on the

2692
01:40:17,390 --> 01:40:15,120
contrary learning that a UAP isn't of

2693
01:40:20,030 --> 01:40:17,400
exotic origin but is instead just a

2694
01:40:21,590 --> 01:40:20,040
quadcopter or balloon leads to the

2695
01:40:24,290 --> 01:40:21,600
question of who is operating that

2696
01:40:26,090 --> 01:40:24,300
quadcopter into what purpose

2697
01:40:28,250 --> 01:40:26,100
the answers to those questions will

2698
01:40:30,590 --> 01:40:28,260
inform potential National Security or

2699
01:40:32,510 --> 01:40:30,600
law enforcement responses

2700
01:40:34,129 --> 01:40:32,520
arrow is a member of the Department's

2701
01:40:36,229 --> 01:40:34,139
support to the administration's tiger

2702
01:40:38,330 --> 01:40:36,239
team effort to deal with stratospheric

2703
01:40:39,649 --> 01:40:38,340
objects such as the PRC high altitude

2704
01:40:42,830 --> 01:40:39,659
balloon

2705
01:40:45,530 --> 01:40:42,840
well when previously unknown objects are

2706
01:40:47,629 --> 01:40:45,540
successfully identified it is Arrow's

2707
01:40:50,330 --> 01:40:47,639
role too quickly and efficiently hand

2708
01:40:52,370 --> 01:40:50,340
off such readily explainable objects to

2709
01:40:54,229 --> 01:40:52,380
the intelligence law enforcement or

2710
01:40:57,169 --> 01:40:54,239
operational safety communities for

2711
01:40:59,330 --> 01:40:57,179
further analysis and appropriate action

2712
01:41:02,510 --> 01:40:59,340
in other words Arrow's mission is to

2713
01:41:04,610 --> 01:41:02,520
turn UAP into SCP somebody else's

2714
01:41:07,370 --> 01:41:04,620
problem

2715
01:41:09,169 --> 01:41:07,380
the U.S government the dod and the IC in

2716
01:41:11,330 --> 01:41:09,179
particular has tremendous capabilities

2717
01:41:14,689 --> 01:41:11,340
to deal with those encountered objects

2718
01:41:16,250 --> 01:41:14,699
in the wake of the PRC Hab event the

2719
01:41:18,229 --> 01:41:16,260
interagency is working to better

2720
01:41:19,030 --> 01:41:18,239
integrate and share information to

2721
01:41:22,129 --> 01:41:19,040
address

2722
01:41:24,530 --> 01:41:22,139
identifiable stratospheric objects but

2723
01:41:26,870 --> 01:41:24,540
that is not all arrows Lane

2724
01:41:29,390 --> 01:41:26,880
meanwhile for the few cases in all

2725
01:41:31,129 --> 01:41:29,400
domains space air and sea

2726
01:41:33,350 --> 01:41:31,139
that do demonstrate potentially

2727
01:41:35,870 --> 01:41:33,360
anomalous characteristics Arrow exists

2728
01:41:38,870 --> 01:41:35,880
to help the dod IC and interagency

2729
01:41:41,330 --> 01:41:38,880
resolve those anomalous cases in doing

2730
01:41:43,370 --> 01:41:41,340
so arrow is approaching these cases with

2731
01:41:46,010 --> 01:41:43,380
the highest level of objectivity and

2732
01:41:47,750 --> 01:41:46,020
analytic rigor this includes physically

2733
01:41:50,570 --> 01:41:47,760
testing and employing modeling and

2734
01:41:52,669 --> 01:41:50,580
simulation validate our analyzes and

2735
01:41:54,430 --> 01:41:52,679
underlying theories then peer-reviewing

2736
01:41:56,629 --> 01:41:54,440
those results within the US government

2737
01:41:58,669 --> 01:41:56,639
industry partners and appropriately

2738
01:42:00,950 --> 01:41:58,679
cleared academic institutions before

2739
01:42:02,930 --> 01:42:00,960
reaching any conclusions

2740
01:42:05,090 --> 01:42:02,940
I should also State clearly for the

2741
01:42:07,550 --> 01:42:05,100
record that in our research Arrow has

2742
01:42:09,649 --> 01:42:07,560
found no credible evidence thus far of

2743
01:42:12,350 --> 01:42:09,659
extraterrestrial activity off-world

2744
01:42:13,970 --> 01:42:12,360
technology or objects that defy the

2745
01:42:16,430 --> 01:42:13,980
known laws of physics

2746
01:42:18,830 --> 01:42:16,440
in the event sufficient scientific data

2747
01:42:20,870 --> 01:42:18,840
were ever obtained that a UAP

2748
01:42:23,270 --> 01:42:20,880
encountered can only be explained by

2749
01:42:25,189 --> 01:42:23,280
extraterrestrial origin we are committed

2750
01:42:27,950 --> 01:42:25,199
to working with our interagency partners

2751
01:42:30,350 --> 01:42:27,960
at Nasa to appropriately inform U.S

2752
01:42:32,990 --> 01:42:30,360
government's leadership of its findings

2753
01:42:34,729 --> 01:42:33,000
for those few cases that have leaked to

2754
01:42:37,129 --> 01:42:34,739
the public previously and subsequently

2755
01:42:38,810 --> 01:42:37,139
commented on by the U.S government I

2756
01:42:40,550 --> 01:42:38,820
encourage those who hold alternative

2757
01:42:42,649 --> 01:42:40,560
theories or views to submit your

2758
01:42:44,870 --> 01:42:42,659
research to Credible peer-reviewed

2759
01:42:46,729 --> 01:42:44,880
scientific journals arrow is working

2760
01:42:49,729 --> 01:42:46,739
very hard to do the same

2761
01:42:51,050 --> 01:42:49,739
that is how science works not by blog or

2762
01:42:53,030 --> 01:42:51,060
social media

2763
01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:53,040
we know that there is tremendous public

2764
01:42:58,850 --> 01:42:55,679
interest in UAP and a desire for answers

2765
01:43:01,490 --> 01:42:58,860
from Arrow by its very nature the UAP

2766
01:43:04,010 --> 01:43:01,500
challenge has for decades lent itself to

2767
01:43:07,129 --> 01:43:04,020
mystery sensationalism and even

2768
01:43:09,590 --> 01:43:07,139
conspiracy for that reason Arrow remains

2769
01:43:11,750 --> 01:43:09,600
committed to transparency accountability

2770
01:43:14,450 --> 01:43:11,760
and to sharing as much with the American

2771
01:43:16,550 --> 01:43:14,460
public as we can consistent with Our

2772
01:43:19,189 --> 01:43:16,560
obligation to protect and not only

2773
01:43:21,350 --> 01:43:19,199
intelligence sources and methods but U.S

2774
01:43:24,229 --> 01:43:21,360
and Allied capabilities

2775
01:43:26,570 --> 01:43:24,239
however Arrow's work will take time if

2776
01:43:28,790 --> 01:43:26,580
we are committed to do it right it means

2777
01:43:30,169 --> 01:43:28,800
adhering to the scientific method and

2778
01:43:33,169 --> 01:43:30,179
the highest standards of research

2779
01:43:35,390 --> 01:43:33,179
Integrity it means being methodical and

2780
01:43:37,790 --> 01:43:35,400
scrupulous it means withholding judgment

2781
01:43:39,950 --> 01:43:37,800
in favor of evidence it means following

2782
01:43:42,470 --> 01:43:39,960
the data where it leads wherever it

2783
01:43:44,510 --> 01:43:42,480
leads it means establishing scientific

2784
01:43:46,189 --> 01:43:44,520
peer-reviewed theoretical underpinnings

2785
01:43:48,590 --> 01:43:46,199
of observed data

2786
01:43:49,729 --> 01:43:48,600
an arrow is committed to all of those

2787
01:43:51,649 --> 01:43:49,739
standards

2788
01:43:54,530 --> 01:43:51,659
I'm proud of Arrow's progress over the

2789
01:43:56,930 --> 01:43:54,540
last nine months months much remains to

2790
01:43:59,270 --> 01:43:56,940
be done but the hard work is underway

2791
01:44:01,129 --> 01:43:59,280
thank you for your continued support and

2792
01:44:03,169 --> 01:44:01,139
before we turn to questions I want to

2793
01:44:04,970 --> 01:44:03,179
walk you through some of our analytical

2794
01:44:09,470 --> 01:44:04,980
Trends in a couple of cases that we've

2795
01:44:16,310 --> 01:44:12,310
so one of the things that Arrow does is

2796
01:44:19,010 --> 01:44:16,320
high integrity analysis as I've said

2797
01:44:23,030 --> 01:44:19,020
this chart represents

2798
01:44:25,910 --> 01:44:23,040
the trend analysis of all the cases in

2799
01:44:28,790 --> 01:44:25,920
arrows Holdings right to date

2800
01:44:31,550 --> 01:44:28,800
what you'll see on the left is a

2801
01:44:35,290 --> 01:44:31,560
histogram of all of our reported

2802
01:44:40,790 --> 01:44:35,300
sightings as a function of altitude

2803
01:44:42,109 --> 01:44:40,800
so most of our sightings occur in the 15

2804
01:44:44,510 --> 01:44:42,119
to 25

2805
01:44:45,830 --> 01:44:44,520
000 foot range and that is ultimately

2806
01:44:48,169 --> 01:44:45,840
because that's where a lot of our

2807
01:44:51,169 --> 01:44:48,179
aircraft are

2808
01:44:54,350 --> 01:44:51,179
on the far right upper corner you'll see

2809
01:44:57,350 --> 01:44:54,360
a breakout of the morphologies of all of

2810
01:45:00,109 --> 01:44:57,360
the UAP that are reported over half

2811
01:45:05,450 --> 01:45:00,119
about 52 percent of what's been reported

2812
01:45:07,910 --> 01:45:05,460
to us are round orb spheres

2813
01:45:09,950 --> 01:45:07,920
the rest of those break out into all

2814
01:45:11,770 --> 01:45:09,960
kinds of different other shapes the gray

2815
01:45:15,050 --> 01:45:11,780
box is

2816
01:45:17,270 --> 01:45:15,060
essentially there's no data on what its

2817
01:45:19,910 --> 01:45:17,280
shape is either it wasn't reported or

2818
01:45:23,629 --> 01:45:19,920
the sensor did not collect it

2819
01:45:26,209 --> 01:45:23,639
the bottom map is a heat map of all

2820
01:45:28,669 --> 01:45:26,219
reporting areas across the globe that we

2821
01:45:31,550 --> 01:45:28,679
have available to us

2822
01:45:34,310 --> 01:45:31,560
what you'll notice is that there is a

2823
01:45:37,510 --> 01:45:34,320
heavy what we call collection bias both

2824
01:45:41,330 --> 01:45:37,520
in altitude and in geographic location

2825
01:45:43,310 --> 01:45:41,340
that's where all of our sensors exist

2826
01:45:45,169 --> 01:45:43,320
that's where our training ranges are

2827
01:45:48,770 --> 01:45:45,179
that's where our operational ranges are

2828
01:45:51,590 --> 01:45:48,780
that's where all of our platforms are

2829
01:45:55,270 --> 01:45:51,600
in the middle what we have done is

2830
01:46:00,050 --> 01:45:55,280
reduce the most typically reported UAP

2831
01:46:02,990 --> 01:46:00,060
characteristics to these fields mostly

2832
01:46:05,510 --> 01:46:03,000
round mostly one to four meters white

2833
01:46:08,450 --> 01:46:05,520
silver translucent metallic

2834
01:46:10,669 --> 01:46:08,460
ten thousand thirty thousand feet

2835
01:46:13,790 --> 01:46:10,679
with apparent velocities from the

2836
01:46:16,490 --> 01:46:13,800
stationary to Mach 2. no thermal

2837
01:46:19,250 --> 01:46:16,500
exhausts usually detected we get

2838
01:46:22,310 --> 01:46:19,260
intermittent radar returns we get

2839
01:46:24,830 --> 01:46:22,320
intermittent radio returns and we get

2840
01:46:27,290 --> 01:46:24,840
intermittent thermal signatures

2841
01:46:30,649 --> 01:46:27,300
that's what we're looking for and trying

2842
01:46:30,659 --> 01:46:34,370
next slide

2843
01:46:39,910 --> 01:46:36,290
so I'm going to walk you through two

2844
01:46:43,609 --> 01:46:39,920
cases that we've Declassified recently

2845
01:46:46,910 --> 01:46:43,619
this first one is an MQ-9 in the Middle

2846
01:46:50,030 --> 01:46:46,920
East observing that blow up which is an

2847
01:46:53,450 --> 01:46:50,040
apparent spherical object vo EO sensors

2848
01:46:58,129 --> 01:46:54,830
if you want to go ahead and click that

2849
01:47:02,570 --> 01:47:00,470
you'll see it come through the top of

2850
01:47:05,870 --> 01:47:02,580
the screen there it goes and then the

2851
01:47:07,970 --> 01:47:05,880
camera will slew to follow it

2852
01:47:10,129 --> 01:47:07,980
you'll see it pop in and out of the

2853
01:47:12,709 --> 01:47:10,139
screen field of view there

2854
01:47:14,450 --> 01:47:12,719
this is essentially all of the data we

2855
01:47:17,390 --> 01:47:14,460
have associated with this event from

2856
01:47:22,250 --> 01:47:19,430
it is going to be virtually impossible

2857
01:47:24,530 --> 01:47:22,260
to fully identify that

2858
01:47:26,870 --> 01:47:24,540
just based off of that video

2859
01:47:30,470 --> 01:47:26,880
now what we can do and what we are doing

2860
01:47:33,410 --> 01:47:30,480
is keeping that as part of that

2861
01:47:36,290 --> 01:47:33,420
group of 52 percent

2862
01:47:38,450 --> 01:47:36,300
to see what are the similarities what

2863
01:47:40,490 --> 01:47:38,460
are the trends across all these do we

2864
01:47:43,250 --> 01:47:40,500
see these in a particular distribution

2865
01:47:45,890 --> 01:47:43,260
do they all behave the same or not

2866
01:47:47,870 --> 01:47:45,900
as we get more data

2867
01:47:50,750 --> 01:47:47,880
we will be able to go back and look at

2868
01:47:53,450 --> 01:47:50,760
these in a fuller context

2869
01:47:55,669 --> 01:47:53,460
how are we going to get more data we are

2870
01:47:57,770 --> 01:47:55,679
working with the joint staff to issue

2871
01:48:00,830 --> 01:47:57,780
guidance to all the services and

2872
01:48:02,450 --> 01:48:00,840
commands that will then establish what

2873
01:48:04,490 --> 01:48:02,460
are the reporting requirements the

2874
01:48:06,830 --> 01:48:04,500
timeliness and all of the data that is

2875
01:48:10,729 --> 01:48:06,840
required to be delivered to us and

2876
01:48:12,830 --> 01:48:10,739
retained from all the associated sensors

2877
01:48:14,930 --> 01:48:12,840
that historically hasn't been the case

2878
01:48:17,209 --> 01:48:14,940
and it's been happenstance that data has

2879
01:48:20,149 --> 01:48:17,219
been collected

2880
01:48:24,709 --> 01:48:20,159
next slide

2881
01:48:28,189 --> 01:48:24,719
this particular event South Asia MQ-9

2882
01:48:30,530 --> 01:48:28,199
looking at another MQ-9 and what's

2883
01:48:33,350 --> 01:48:30,540
highlighted there in that red circle is

2884
01:48:35,930 --> 01:48:33,360
an object that flies through the screen

2885
01:48:37,850 --> 01:48:35,940
unlike the previous one

2886
01:48:39,530 --> 01:48:37,860
this one actually shows some really

2887
01:48:42,590 --> 01:48:39,540
interesting things that everyone thought

2888
01:48:44,870 --> 01:48:42,600
was truly anomalous to start with first

2889
01:48:47,090 --> 01:48:44,880
of all it's a high speed object that's

2890
01:48:51,169 --> 01:48:47,100
flying in the field of regard of two

2891
01:48:53,510 --> 01:48:51,179
mq-9s second it appears to have this

2892
01:48:55,910 --> 01:48:53,520
trail behind it

2893
01:48:59,689 --> 01:48:55,920
all right which at first blush you would

2894
01:49:03,470 --> 01:48:59,699
think that looks like a propulsion Trail

2895
01:49:05,209 --> 01:49:03,480
in reality if you want to play the first

2896
01:49:07,790 --> 01:49:05,219
slide we'll show you what that looks

2897
01:49:11,149 --> 01:49:07,800
like in real time or first video so

2898
01:49:13,070 --> 01:49:11,159
we're looking at that there it goes

2899
01:49:14,990 --> 01:49:13,080
once you play it again and then pause it

2900
01:49:16,609 --> 01:49:15,000
halfway through

2901
01:49:18,290 --> 01:49:16,619
right there

2902
01:49:21,109 --> 01:49:18,300
all right if you might be able to see

2903
01:49:23,750 --> 01:49:21,119
that trail there behind it

2904
01:49:26,770 --> 01:49:23,760
that's actually not a real trail that is

2905
01:49:29,270 --> 01:49:26,780
a sensor artifact

2906
01:49:31,550 --> 01:49:29,280
each one of those little blobs is

2907
01:49:33,709 --> 01:49:31,560
actually a representation of the object

2908
01:49:36,410 --> 01:49:33,719
as it's moving through and later in the

2909
01:49:40,790 --> 01:49:36,420
video as the

2910
01:49:43,310 --> 01:49:40,800
as the camera slews that trail actually

2911
01:49:47,209 --> 01:49:43,320
follows the direction of the camera not

2912
01:49:49,669 --> 01:49:47,219
the direction of the object

2913
01:49:51,410 --> 01:49:49,679
we pulled these apart frame by frame we

2914
01:49:54,770 --> 01:49:51,420
were able to demonstrate that that is

2915
01:49:56,810 --> 01:49:54,780
essentially a readout uh overlap of the

2916
01:49:58,310 --> 01:49:56,820
image it's a it's a shadow image right

2917
01:50:00,310 --> 01:49:58,320
it's not real

2918
01:50:03,410 --> 01:50:00,320
further if you later

2919
01:50:06,530 --> 01:50:03,420
follow this all the way to end it starts

2920
01:50:08,330 --> 01:50:06,540
to resolve itself into that blob that's

2921
01:50:10,550 --> 01:50:08,340
in that picture in the top of the right

2922
01:50:12,350 --> 01:50:10,560
and if you squint it looks like an

2923
01:50:14,090 --> 01:50:12,360
aircraft because it actually turns out

2924
01:50:16,970 --> 01:50:14,100
to be an aircraft go ahead and put that

2925
01:50:21,890 --> 01:50:19,430
so you'll see the tail sort of pop out

2926
01:50:24,290 --> 01:50:21,900
there and so what you're looking at is

2927
01:50:26,330 --> 01:50:24,300
this is in the infrared this is the Heat

2928
01:50:28,550 --> 01:50:26,340
Signature off of the

2929
01:50:30,470 --> 01:50:28,560
engines of a commuter aircraft that

2930
01:50:34,010 --> 01:50:30,480
happen to be flying in the vicinity of

2931
01:50:36,590 --> 01:50:34,020
where those two mq nines were at

2932
01:50:38,030 --> 01:50:36,600
why am i showing you this so the first

2933
01:50:40,970 --> 01:50:38,040
one that I showed you we don't have

2934
01:50:44,390 --> 01:50:40,980
resolved yet right that is an unresolved

2935
01:50:47,209 --> 01:50:44,400
case we are still studying this one we

2936
01:50:49,310 --> 01:50:47,219
can resolve but this is the kind of data

2937
01:50:51,950 --> 01:50:49,320
that we have to work with and the type

2938
01:50:53,990 --> 01:50:51,960
of analysis that we have to do which can

2939
01:50:56,750 --> 01:50:54,000
be quite extensive when you have to pull

2940
01:50:59,810 --> 01:50:56,760
these apart frame by frame

2941
01:51:02,810 --> 01:50:59,820
further we're now matching all of this

2942
01:51:06,050 --> 01:51:02,820
with the models of all of those Imaging

2943
01:51:08,629 --> 01:51:06,060
sensors so that I can say I can recreate

2944
01:51:10,370 --> 01:51:08,639
this I can actually show how the sensor

2945
01:51:12,649 --> 01:51:10,380
is going to respond

2946
01:51:15,770 --> 01:51:12,659
all of these sensors don't necessarily

2947
01:51:17,810 --> 01:51:15,780
respond the way you think they do

2948
01:51:21,229 --> 01:51:17,820
especially out in the world and in the

2949
01:51:25,250 --> 01:51:22,970
and I believe that's all I have and I

2950
01:51:28,669 --> 01:51:25,260
will open it up for your discussions

2951
01:51:30,950 --> 01:51:28,679
thank you so much Dr crew Patrick can

2952
01:51:34,850 --> 01:51:30,960
you just give us some raw numbers of how

2953
01:51:36,709 --> 01:51:34,860
many uh uaps you've analyzed how many

2954
01:51:38,450 --> 01:51:36,719
have been resolved and sort of in what

2955
01:51:40,810 --> 01:51:38,460
buckets and then how many are still left

2956
01:51:44,090 --> 01:51:40,820
to be resolved just an update from your

2957
01:51:47,229 --> 01:51:44,100
January public report where it was 366

2958
01:51:49,910 --> 01:51:47,239
or something in about 150 were were

2959
01:51:51,590 --> 01:51:49,920
balloons and about two dozen were drones

2960
01:51:55,669 --> 01:51:51,600
you know just give us an update if you

2961
01:52:01,370 --> 01:51:55,679
have one sure so as of this week we are

2962
01:52:04,910 --> 01:52:01,380
tracking over a total of 650 cases

2963
01:52:06,890 --> 01:52:04,920
now the report in January basically said

2964
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:06,900
about half of the ones at that time

2965
01:52:12,229 --> 01:52:09,840
about 150 were balloon were likely

2966
01:52:14,990 --> 01:52:12,239
balloon-like or something like that that

2967
01:52:17,450 --> 01:52:15,000
doesn't mean they're resolved oh so what

2968
01:52:20,450 --> 01:52:17,460
let me let me walk everyone through what

2969
01:52:22,550 --> 01:52:20,460
our analytic process looks like

2970
01:52:25,550 --> 01:52:22,560
we have a essentially a

2971
01:52:28,010 --> 01:52:25,560
five-step process right so we have we

2972
01:52:32,810 --> 01:52:28,020
get our cases in with all the data we

2973
01:52:36,410 --> 01:52:32,820
create a case uh for that event

2974
01:52:39,229 --> 01:52:36,420
my team does a preliminary scrub of all

2975
01:52:41,870 --> 01:52:39,239
of those cases as they come in just to

2976
01:52:44,629 --> 01:52:41,880
sort out do we have any information that

2977
01:52:46,609 --> 01:52:44,639
says this is in one of those likely

2978
01:52:50,149 --> 01:52:46,619
categories it's likely a balloon it's

2979
01:52:51,470 --> 01:52:50,159
likely a balloon a bird it's likely some

2980
01:52:54,290 --> 01:52:51,480
other object

2981
01:52:58,430 --> 01:52:54,300
or we don't know

2982
01:53:01,129 --> 01:52:58,440
then we prioritize those based off of

2983
01:53:03,109 --> 01:53:01,139
where they are are they attached to a

2984
01:53:06,070 --> 01:53:03,119
national security area

2985
01:53:08,990 --> 01:53:06,080
does it show some anomalous

2986
01:53:10,910 --> 01:53:09,000
phenomenology that is of interest if

2987
01:53:13,609 --> 01:53:10,920
it's just if it's just a spherical thing

2988
01:53:16,250 --> 01:53:13,619
that's floating around with the with the

2989
01:53:17,570 --> 01:53:16,260
wind and it has no payload on it that's

2990
01:53:19,490 --> 01:53:17,580
going to be less important than

2991
01:53:20,870 --> 01:53:19,500
something that has a payload on it which

2992
01:53:22,430 --> 01:53:20,880
would be less important than something

2993
01:53:24,470 --> 01:53:22,440
that's maneuvering

2994
01:53:26,629 --> 01:53:24,480
right so there's there's sort of a

2995
01:53:30,649 --> 01:53:26,639
hierarchy of just binning the priorities

2996
01:53:32,990 --> 01:53:30,659
because we can't do all of them at once

2997
01:53:34,790 --> 01:53:33,000
once we do that and we prioritize them

2998
01:53:37,370 --> 01:53:34,800
when we take that package of data in

2999
01:53:39,770 --> 01:53:37,380
that case and I have set up two teams

3000
01:53:42,290 --> 01:53:39,780
I'll think of this as a red team blue

3001
01:53:44,390 --> 01:53:42,300
team or a competitive analysis

3002
01:53:47,510 --> 01:53:44,400
I have an intelligence Community team

3003
01:53:50,330 --> 01:53:47,520
made up of intelligence analysts and I

3004
01:53:51,649 --> 01:53:50,340
have an s t team made up of scientists

3005
01:53:53,570 --> 01:53:51,659
and engineers and the people that

3006
01:53:55,550 --> 01:53:53,580
actually build a lot of these sensors or

3007
01:53:58,550 --> 01:53:55,560
physicists because you know if you're a

3008
01:53:59,390 --> 01:53:58,560
physicist you can do anything right

3009
01:54:02,570 --> 01:53:59,400
um

3010
01:54:05,030 --> 01:54:02,580
and but they're not associated with the

3011
01:54:07,189 --> 01:54:05,040
Intel Community they're not Intel

3012
01:54:09,350 --> 01:54:07,199
officers so they they look at this

3013
01:54:11,689 --> 01:54:09,360
through the lens of the sensor of the

3014
01:54:13,729 --> 01:54:11,699
what the data says we give that package

3015
01:54:15,410 --> 01:54:13,739
to both teams

3016
01:54:16,729 --> 01:54:15,420
the intelligence Community is going to

3017
01:54:19,010 --> 01:54:16,739
look at it through the lens of the

3018
01:54:21,770 --> 01:54:19,020
intelligence record and what they assess

3019
01:54:23,570 --> 01:54:21,780
and their Intel tradecraft which they

3020
01:54:25,910 --> 01:54:23,580
have very specific rules and regulations

3021
01:54:27,950 --> 01:54:25,920
on how they do that scientific Community

3022
01:54:29,870 --> 01:54:27,960
Technical Community is going to look at

3023
01:54:32,810 --> 01:54:29,880
it through the lens of what is the data

3024
01:54:35,990 --> 01:54:32,820
telling me what is the sensor doing what

3025
01:54:38,930 --> 01:54:36,000
would I expect a sensor response to be

3026
01:54:43,250 --> 01:54:38,940
and back that out those two groups give

3027
01:54:46,609 --> 01:54:43,260
us their answers we then adjudicate

3028
01:54:48,890 --> 01:54:46,619
if they agree then I am more likely to

3029
01:54:51,530 --> 01:54:48,900
close that case if they agree on what it

3030
01:54:53,330 --> 01:54:51,540
is if they disagree we will have an

3031
01:54:54,890 --> 01:54:53,340
adjudication we'll bring them together

3032
01:54:58,070 --> 01:54:54,900
we'll take a look at the differences

3033
01:54:59,689 --> 01:54:58,080
we'll adjudicate what why do you say one

3034
01:55:01,970 --> 01:54:59,699
thing and you say another

3035
01:55:04,850 --> 01:55:01,980
we will then come to a case

3036
01:55:07,310 --> 01:55:04,860
recommendation

3037
01:55:10,550 --> 01:55:07,320
that'll get written up by my team

3038
01:55:12,470 --> 01:55:10,560
that then goes to a senior technical

3039
01:55:14,290 --> 01:55:12,480
Advisory Group

3040
01:55:17,810 --> 01:55:14,300
which is outside of all of those people

3041
01:55:18,669 --> 01:55:17,820
made up of senior technical folks and

3042
01:55:25,810 --> 01:55:18,679
and

3043
01:55:28,729 --> 01:55:25,820
retired out of the community

3044
01:55:33,169 --> 01:55:28,739
and they they essentially peer review

3045
01:55:35,870 --> 01:55:33,179
what that case recommendation is

3046
01:55:37,729 --> 01:55:35,880
they write their I review it we make a

3047
01:55:39,950 --> 01:55:37,739
determination and I'll sign off one way

3048
01:55:43,970 --> 01:55:39,960
or the other and then that will go out

3049
01:55:46,850 --> 01:55:43,980
as the the case determination once we

3050
01:55:49,129 --> 01:55:46,860
have an approved web portal to hang the

3051
01:55:51,109 --> 01:55:49,139
unclassified stuff we will do you know

3052
01:55:52,609 --> 01:55:51,119
we would downgrade and declassify things

3053
01:55:54,770 --> 01:55:52,619
and put it out there

3054
01:55:57,950 --> 01:55:54,780
in the meantime we're putting a lot of

3055
01:55:59,810 --> 01:55:57,960
these on our classified web portal where

3056
01:56:01,189 --> 01:55:59,820
we can then collaborate with the rest of

3057
01:56:03,050 --> 01:56:01,199
the community so they can see what's

3058
01:56:06,470 --> 01:56:03,060
going on

3059
01:56:10,729 --> 01:56:06,480
that's in a nutshell that is the process

3060
01:56:15,109 --> 01:56:12,950
because of that

3061
01:56:18,709 --> 01:56:15,119
that takes time

3062
01:56:20,810 --> 01:56:18,719
so of those over 650 you know we've

3063
01:56:26,270 --> 01:56:20,820
prioritized

3064
01:56:29,689 --> 01:56:26,280
about uh half of them to be of of

3065
01:56:31,310 --> 01:56:29,699
um anomalous interesting value

3066
01:56:33,470 --> 01:56:31,320
and now we have to go through those and

3067
01:56:37,189 --> 01:56:33,480
go how much do I have actual data for

3068
01:56:41,090 --> 01:56:37,199
because if all I have is a is a operator

3069
01:56:44,629 --> 01:56:41,100
report that says I saw X Y or Z my

3070
01:56:46,490 --> 01:56:44,639
assessment is a b or c that's not really

3071
01:56:49,550 --> 01:56:46,500
sufficient that's a good place to start

3072
01:56:51,590 --> 01:56:49,560
but I have to have data I have to have

3073
01:56:53,209 --> 01:56:51,600
radar data I have to have EO data I have

3074
01:56:55,970 --> 01:56:53,219
to have thermal data I have to have

3075
01:56:57,590 --> 01:56:55,980
overhead data and we need to look at all

3076
01:57:00,410 --> 01:56:57,600
that

3077
01:57:02,270 --> 01:57:00,420
now from a big picture perspective I

3078
01:57:03,649 --> 01:57:02,280
still have that's all very still very

3079
01:57:06,169 --> 01:57:03,659
valuable data

3080
01:57:09,649 --> 01:57:06,179
and we're looking at applying a lot of

3081
01:57:12,410 --> 01:57:09,659
things new tools analytic tools like

3082
01:57:15,410 --> 01:57:12,420
natural language processing so I can go

3083
01:57:18,229 --> 01:57:15,420
across all of those reports and look for

3084
01:57:20,750 --> 01:57:18,239
commonalities how many of them are being

3085
01:57:22,250 --> 01:57:20,760
described as round spherical objects

3086
01:57:24,050 --> 01:57:22,260
that are maneuvering how many of them

3087
01:57:28,310 --> 01:57:24,060
are not maneuvering how many of them

3088
01:57:31,070 --> 01:57:28,320
seem to have a plume to it or note

3089
01:57:32,810 --> 01:57:31,080
that's also going to be very valuable to

3090
01:57:35,290 --> 01:57:32,820
give us more of a global picture and a

3091
01:57:38,510 --> 01:57:35,300
Trends analysis of what are we saying

3092
01:57:41,450 --> 01:57:38,520
and help us get to the determination

3093
01:57:42,290 --> 01:57:41,460
so go back to your question ma'am we

3094
01:57:43,629 --> 01:57:42,300
have

3095
01:57:46,310 --> 01:57:43,639
um

3096
01:57:48,229 --> 01:57:46,320
this next quarterly report will be

3097
01:57:50,270 --> 01:57:48,239
coming out here pretty soon our next

3098
01:57:54,410 --> 01:57:50,280
annual report

3099
01:57:56,810 --> 01:57:54,420
um you all have given us moved it up to

3100
01:58:00,109 --> 01:57:56,820
to June July we're going to be having

3101
01:58:02,510 --> 01:58:00,119
that done about that time frame and we

3102
01:58:06,709 --> 01:58:02,520
will have a we'll be combining a whole

3103
01:58:12,830 --> 01:58:06,719
number of reports into that one uh uh I

3104
01:58:18,709 --> 01:58:15,109
if I remember correct we were around

3105
01:58:20,750 --> 01:58:18,719
20 to 30-ish or about halfway through

3106
01:58:22,609 --> 01:58:20,760
that analytic process

3107
01:58:24,169 --> 01:58:22,619
a handful of them have made it all the

3108
01:58:26,810 --> 01:58:24,179
way out to the other side gone through

3109
01:58:29,209 --> 01:58:26,820
peer review we've got case closure

3110
01:58:31,910 --> 01:58:29,219
reports done and signed

3111
01:58:34,910 --> 01:58:31,920
we're going to get faster as we get more

3112
01:58:38,030 --> 01:58:34,920
people on board and we get more of the

3113
01:58:41,990 --> 01:58:38,040
community tools to automate some of the

3114
01:58:47,450 --> 01:58:44,530
yeah thank you madam chair and Dr

3115
01:58:50,270 --> 01:58:47,460
Kirkpatrick the odni annual threat

3116
01:58:53,390 --> 01:58:50,280
assessment states that China's space

3117
01:58:56,229 --> 01:58:53,400
activities are designed to erode U.S

3118
01:58:59,570 --> 01:58:56,239
influence across military technological

3119
01:59:01,850 --> 01:58:59,580
economic and diplomatic spheres likewise

3120
01:59:05,030 --> 01:59:01,860
Russia will remain a key space

3121
01:59:07,370 --> 01:59:05,040
competitor in the course of your work

3122
01:59:10,250 --> 01:59:07,380
have you become aware of any Chinese or

3123
01:59:13,089 --> 01:59:10,260
Russia technical advancements to surveil

3124
01:59:16,609 --> 01:59:13,099
or attack U.S interests

3125
01:59:19,129 --> 01:59:16,619
so that's a great question part of what

3126
01:59:22,209 --> 01:59:19,139
we have to do as we go through these

3127
01:59:24,410 --> 01:59:22,219
especially the ones that show

3128
01:59:27,290 --> 01:59:24,420
signatures of advanced technical

3129
01:59:29,750 --> 01:59:27,300
capabilities is determine if there's a

3130
01:59:33,050 --> 01:59:29,760
foreign Nexus

3131
01:59:35,510 --> 01:59:33,060
that's really hard if what we observe

3132
01:59:38,030 --> 01:59:35,520
doesn't have a Chinese or Russian flag

3133
01:59:39,890 --> 01:59:38,040
on the side of it

3134
01:59:41,870 --> 01:59:39,900
now

3135
01:59:42,470 --> 01:59:41,880
I think it is

3136
01:59:44,810 --> 01:59:42,480
um

3137
01:59:50,209 --> 01:59:44,820
prudent to say

3138
01:59:52,189 --> 01:59:50,219
of the of the cases that are showing

3139
01:59:54,410 --> 01:59:52,199
it you know some sort of advanced

3140
01:59:56,750 --> 01:59:54,420
technical signature of which we're

3141
02:00:00,530 --> 01:59:56,760
talking single percentages of the entire

3142
02:00:04,729 --> 02:00:00,540
population of cases we have

3143
02:00:07,970 --> 02:00:04,739
um I am concerned about

3144
02:00:10,430 --> 02:00:07,980
what that Nexus is and I have indicators

3145
02:00:12,589 --> 02:00:10,440
that some are related to foreign

3146
02:00:15,589 --> 02:00:12,599
capabilities

3147
02:00:16,970 --> 02:00:15,599
we have to investigate that with our IC

3148
02:00:19,609 --> 02:00:16,980
partners

3149
02:00:21,709 --> 02:00:19,619
and as we get evidence to support that

3150
02:00:25,790 --> 02:00:21,719
that gets then handed off to the

3151
02:00:28,370 --> 02:00:25,800
appropriate IC agency to investigate

3152
02:00:30,950 --> 02:00:28,380
again it becomes an SCP at that point

3153
02:00:35,689 --> 02:00:30,960
yeah somebody else's problem right very

3154
02:00:38,209 --> 02:00:35,699
good thank you yes it is it is it is it

3155
02:00:40,729 --> 02:00:38,219
possible that the Chinese or Russian

3156
02:00:42,589 --> 02:00:40,739
Advanced Technologies could could be

3157
02:00:45,890 --> 02:00:42,599
causing some of these anomalous

3158
02:00:51,169 --> 02:00:45,900
behaviors and and you said there seems

3159
02:00:53,990 --> 02:00:51,179
to be some indicators uh so just for us

3160
02:00:56,330 --> 02:00:54,000
today could you describe Potential

3161
02:01:00,830 --> 02:00:56,340
Threat that might exist out there if

3162
02:01:04,810 --> 02:01:02,990
in order to do this research

3163
02:01:08,930 --> 02:01:04,820
appropriately

3164
02:01:10,370 --> 02:01:08,940
we have to also be cognizant of what is

3165
02:01:14,030 --> 02:01:10,380
the state of the art and Development

3166
02:01:15,950 --> 02:01:14,040
Across the s t Community what is what

3167
02:01:19,629 --> 02:01:15,960
are the darpas of the world doing what

3168
02:01:22,850 --> 02:01:19,639
are What's the horizon scanning of

3169
02:01:25,550 --> 02:01:22,860
emerging Technologies appropriate to

3170
02:01:28,070 --> 02:01:25,560
this subcommittee what is happening out

3171
02:01:30,890 --> 02:01:28,080
there and if somebody could accelerate

3172
02:01:32,629 --> 02:01:30,900
that capability how would that manifest

3173
02:01:34,729 --> 02:01:32,639
itself and what would it look like and

3174
02:01:36,370 --> 02:01:34,739
do those signatures match what we're

3175
02:01:39,649 --> 02:01:36,380
seeing

3176
02:01:44,209 --> 02:01:39,659
there are emerging capabilities out

3177
02:01:47,030 --> 02:01:44,219
there that that in many instances

3178
02:01:48,890 --> 02:01:47,040
Russia and China well China in

3179
02:01:52,790 --> 02:01:48,900
particular are

3180
02:01:55,370 --> 02:01:52,800
on par or ahead of us in some areas

3181
02:01:57,350 --> 02:01:55,380
all right so previously I used to be the

3182
02:01:58,910 --> 02:01:57,360
defense Department's intelligence

3183
02:02:01,430 --> 02:01:58,920
officer for Science and Technical

3184
02:02:04,850 --> 02:02:01,440
intelligence that was our job was to

3185
02:02:07,850 --> 02:02:04,860
look for what does all that look like

3186
02:02:10,310 --> 02:02:07,860
um and then you know my last several

3187
02:02:13,689 --> 02:02:10,320
years of course in in space command

3188
02:02:20,330 --> 02:02:18,410
the the adversary is not

3189
02:02:22,430 --> 02:02:20,340
waiting

3190
02:02:23,810 --> 02:02:22,440
they are advancing and they're advancing

3191
02:02:26,030 --> 02:02:23,820
quickly

3192
02:02:27,530 --> 02:02:26,040
if I were to put on some of my old hats

3193
02:02:31,310 --> 02:02:27,540
I would tell you

3194
02:02:34,310 --> 02:02:31,320
they are less risk-averse at technical

3195
02:02:36,890 --> 02:02:34,320
advancement than we are

3196
02:02:38,209 --> 02:02:36,900
they are just willing to try things and

3197
02:02:40,189 --> 02:02:38,219
see if it works

3198
02:02:43,010 --> 02:02:40,199
are there capabilities that could be

3199
02:02:45,410 --> 02:02:43,020
employed against us in both an ISR and a

3200
02:02:47,689 --> 02:02:45,420
weapons fashion absolutely

3201
02:02:50,530 --> 02:02:47,699
do I have evidence that they're doing it

3202
02:02:55,850 --> 02:02:50,540
in these cases

3203
02:03:00,229 --> 02:02:57,709
thank you I appreciate that and that's

3204
02:03:01,729 --> 02:03:00,239
that is why it's so important that you

3205
02:03:03,589 --> 02:03:01,739
are working with the intelligence

3206
02:03:05,689 --> 02:03:03,599
Community as well

3207
02:03:08,750 --> 02:03:05,699
um because you you have the science the

3208
02:03:12,350 --> 02:03:08,760
data background but you also need to

3209
02:03:14,689 --> 02:03:12,360
know from various sources what

3210
02:03:16,910 --> 02:03:14,699
adversaries may be working on is that

3211
02:03:20,450 --> 02:03:16,920
correct okay thank you thank you very

3212
02:03:24,830 --> 02:03:22,609
uh well thank you chair gillibrand

3213
02:03:26,810 --> 02:03:24,840
ranking member Ernst this is a really

3214
02:03:29,450 --> 02:03:26,820
important hearing I'd like to thank you

3215
02:03:31,970 --> 02:03:29,460
Dr Kirkpatrick for your service to the

3216
02:03:34,910 --> 02:03:31,980
country and as a former systems analyst

3217
02:03:37,070 --> 02:03:34,920
myself I really appreciate your flow

3218
02:03:39,109 --> 02:03:37,080
chart the description of the process and

3219
02:03:41,510 --> 02:03:39,119
particularly the trends analysis going

3220
02:03:43,490 --> 02:03:41,520
forward how that's going to help us and

3221
02:03:45,709 --> 02:03:43,500
you've talked about language the large

3222
02:03:47,330 --> 02:03:45,719
llms the large language models of

3223
02:03:48,970 --> 02:03:47,340
artificial intelligence that's really

3224
02:03:52,010 --> 02:03:48,980
going to help us in the hunt forward

3225
02:03:54,350 --> 02:03:52,020
predictive analysis I think

3226
02:03:55,910 --> 02:03:54,360
um to some of your point what we're

3227
02:03:58,609 --> 02:03:55,920
worried about but I want to focus on

3228
02:04:01,790 --> 02:03:58,619
Nevada because I want to talk about the

3229
02:04:04,010 --> 02:04:01,800
impact of uaps on Aviation safety so

3230
02:04:06,649 --> 02:04:04,020
when it comes to unified unidentified

3231
02:04:08,570 --> 02:04:06,659
aerial phenomenal phenomena excuse me

3232
02:04:11,629 --> 02:04:08,580
one of my first concerns is really about

3233
02:04:13,669 --> 02:04:11,639
the safety of Nevada's military Aviator

3234
02:04:16,070 --> 02:04:13,679
so we have Airman station at Nellis Air

3235
02:04:18,350 --> 02:04:16,080
Force Base Naval aviators flying at

3236
02:04:20,890 --> 02:04:18,360
Naval Air Station Fallon and service

3237
02:04:23,330 --> 02:04:20,900
members across from across the world

3238
02:04:25,010 --> 02:04:23,340
training at the Nevada test and training

3239
02:04:26,930 --> 02:04:25,020
range I know you know all this and

3240
02:04:29,930 --> 02:04:26,940
unfortunately the existence of advanced

3241
02:04:32,089 --> 02:04:29,940
uaps in the U.S airspace and over U.S

3242
02:04:34,070 --> 02:04:32,099
military installations

3243
02:04:36,109 --> 02:04:34,080
um not a new phenomenon

3244
02:04:40,370 --> 02:04:36,119
the Navy's officially acknowledged that

3245
02:04:43,010 --> 02:04:40,380
between 2004 and 2021 11 near misses

3246
02:04:46,010 --> 02:04:43,020
occurred involving uaps it required

3247
02:04:48,169 --> 02:04:46,020
pilot action and follow-up reports as a

3248
02:04:50,930 --> 02:04:48,179
result in 2019 the Navy established a

3249
02:04:53,270 --> 02:04:50,940
protocol for Pilots to report on their

3250
02:04:56,030 --> 02:04:53,280
dangerous encounters so could you speak

3251
02:04:58,310 --> 02:04:56,040
to any ongoing efforts within DOD to

3252
02:05:01,490 --> 02:04:58,320
ensure the safety of our aviators with a

3253
02:05:03,229 --> 02:05:01,500
potential UAP encounter and what's your

3254
02:05:05,330 --> 02:05:03,239
relationship with North com NORAD

3255
02:05:08,990 --> 02:05:05,340
spacecom when it comes to this immediate

3256
02:05:10,729 --> 02:05:09,000
real-time response and how they're

3257
02:05:13,490 --> 02:05:10,739
they're right there in the moment right

3258
02:05:17,030 --> 02:05:13,500
absolutely that's a great question so

3259
02:05:19,550 --> 02:05:17,040
let me start with my relationship with

3260
02:05:21,770 --> 02:05:19,560
the commands are are very good I just

3261
02:05:23,629 --> 02:05:21,780
came back from uh sitting down with with

3262
02:05:25,669 --> 02:05:23,639
General van hurk and all the all the J

3263
02:05:27,890 --> 02:05:25,679
staff out at North com a couple weeks

3264
02:05:30,589 --> 02:05:27,900
ago talking through exactly what we need

3265
02:05:31,910 --> 02:05:30,599
to do to help them get their arms around

3266
02:05:35,390 --> 02:05:31,920
us

3267
02:05:37,910 --> 02:05:35,400
we are also working very closely with

3268
02:05:40,609 --> 02:05:37,920
joint staff and the joint staff has just

3269
02:05:43,010 --> 02:05:40,619
been very outstanding in helping work

3270
02:05:46,330 --> 02:05:43,020
through policy and guidance issues to

3271
02:05:51,770 --> 02:05:48,770
and I would like to just make sure that

3272
02:05:55,070 --> 02:05:51,780
we we message back to all of the

3273
02:05:57,890 --> 02:05:55,080
operators the importance of their uh

3274
02:05:59,330 --> 02:05:57,900
reporting and the fact that you're about

3275
02:06:01,310 --> 02:05:59,340
to get a you know a bunch of new

3276
02:06:03,169 --> 02:06:01,320
requirements that we're issuing through

3277
02:06:05,270 --> 02:06:03,179
the joint staff

3278
02:06:08,570 --> 02:06:05,280
on all of the data that we're going to

3279
02:06:12,109 --> 02:06:08,580
need you to save and report back to us

3280
02:06:14,510 --> 02:06:12,119
it is invaluable and we are working to

3281
02:06:16,070 --> 02:06:14,520
try to to take the most advantage of

3282
02:06:17,390 --> 02:06:16,080
that to learn what it is that we're

3283
02:06:20,209 --> 02:06:17,400
trying to mitigate

3284
02:06:22,149 --> 02:06:20,219
to get directly to your question

3285
02:06:24,350 --> 02:06:22,159
first thing that we're doing is

3286
02:06:26,270 --> 02:06:24,360
normalizing our reporting right we're

3287
02:06:28,030 --> 02:06:26,280
standardizing our reporting and the

3288
02:06:30,169 --> 02:06:28,040
requirements associated with that

3289
02:06:32,510 --> 02:06:30,179
guidance from the doing staff I think

3290
02:06:34,370 --> 02:06:32,520
goes out maybe this week

3291
02:06:35,870 --> 02:06:34,380
um maybe next week on that we've been

3292
02:06:37,669 --> 02:06:35,880
working with them for some months that

3293
02:06:39,109 --> 02:06:37,679
does exactly what I just said it gives

3294
02:06:40,910 --> 02:06:39,119
them timelines it gives them

3295
02:06:43,609 --> 02:06:40,920
requirements it gives them here's all

3296
02:06:46,370 --> 02:06:43,619
the data you have to have

3297
02:06:48,589 --> 02:06:46,380
um and you got to retain it

3298
02:06:51,709 --> 02:06:48,599
the next thing that comes after that is

3299
02:06:54,950 --> 02:06:51,719
a plan ORD that will go out to the

3300
02:06:56,510 --> 02:06:54,960
commands for mitigation and response so

3301
02:06:57,530 --> 02:06:56,520
there's a couple of things that we have

3302
02:07:02,450 --> 02:06:57,540
to do

3303
02:07:06,290 --> 02:07:02,460
one I need to work with the commands and

3304
02:07:08,750 --> 02:07:06,300
with the IC and with our outside of our

3305
02:07:10,330 --> 02:07:08,760
DOD and IC Partners to extend our

3306
02:07:13,310 --> 02:07:10,340
collection posture

3307
02:07:15,530 --> 02:07:13,320
targeted at some of these key areas that

3308
02:07:18,470 --> 02:07:15,540
you saw on that heat map

3309
02:07:21,830 --> 02:07:18,480
that have a lot of activity so that we

3310
02:07:24,410 --> 02:07:21,840
can turn on extra collection when an

3311
02:07:26,050 --> 02:07:24,420
operator sees something so part of this

3312
02:07:29,570 --> 02:07:26,060
is generating

3313
02:07:32,209 --> 02:07:29,580
is a response function what we call a

3314
02:07:34,310 --> 02:07:32,219
tactic technique and procedure for an

3315
02:07:36,410 --> 02:07:34,320
operator when he sees something calls

3316
02:07:38,750 --> 02:07:36,420
back to the operations floor they can

3317
02:07:40,910 --> 02:07:38,760
turn on additional collection what does

3318
02:07:42,830 --> 02:07:40,920
that collection look like how do I bring

3319
02:07:45,589 --> 02:07:42,840
all that together so I can get more data

3320
02:07:47,990 --> 02:07:45,599
on what is that thing can I ask really

3321
02:07:49,790 --> 02:07:48,000
quickly to have the authorities you need

3322
02:07:53,330 --> 02:07:49,800
to extend your collection posture

3323
02:07:55,129 --> 02:07:53,340
between agencies or or branches of the

3324
02:07:57,649 --> 02:07:55,139
military because that seems to me to

3325
02:07:59,270 --> 02:07:57,659
maybe be a sticking point I know my

3326
02:08:00,490 --> 02:07:59,280
time's just about up I'd love to follow

3327
02:08:03,169 --> 02:08:00,500
up about your risk management

3328
02:08:05,089 --> 02:08:03,179
methodologies for some of these but do

3329
02:08:07,609 --> 02:08:05,099
you need any authorities that you don't

3330
02:08:09,109 --> 02:08:07,619
have to uh get get the data there are

3331
02:08:10,910 --> 02:08:09,119
some authorities that we need we

3332
02:08:13,070 --> 02:08:10,920
currently are operating under title 10

3333
02:08:15,109 --> 02:08:13,080
authorities but we have

3334
02:08:17,390 --> 02:08:15,119
um you know good relationships across

3335
02:08:19,310 --> 02:08:17,400
the other agencies but having additional

3336
02:08:20,990 --> 02:08:19,320
authorities for collection tasking

3337
02:08:22,729 --> 02:08:21,000
Counter Intelligence that's something

3338
02:08:23,870 --> 02:08:22,739
those are all things that would be

3339
02:08:26,089 --> 02:08:23,880
helpful yes

3340
02:08:28,070 --> 02:08:26,099
thank you to follow up Dr Kirkpatrick

3341
02:08:29,390 --> 02:08:28,080
will you help us write that language so

3342
02:08:30,890 --> 02:08:29,400
we can put it in the defense bill this

3343
02:08:34,250 --> 02:08:30,900
year so that we know what authorities

3344
02:08:35,750 --> 02:08:34,260
you need we can do that thank you

3345
02:08:36,890 --> 02:08:35,760
um we're going to start second round so

3346
02:08:38,629 --> 02:08:36,900
if you want to stay you can ask another

3347
02:08:40,490 --> 02:08:38,639
round I have at least three more

3348
02:08:42,290 --> 02:08:40,500
questions so

3349
02:08:44,990 --> 02:08:42,300
do you want to do you want to go right

3350
02:08:59,169 --> 02:08:45,000
now so you in case you have to leave

3351
02:09:04,790 --> 02:09:02,030
it did cross through the U.S airspace

3352
02:09:06,410 --> 02:09:04,800
shot down by a Sidewinder missile fired

3353
02:09:09,229 --> 02:09:06,420
from an F-22

3354
02:09:11,330 --> 02:09:09,239
Sidewinders cost us close to half a

3355
02:09:13,729 --> 02:09:11,340
million dollars each

3356
02:09:15,589 --> 02:09:13,739
so given the cost of these missiles the

3357
02:09:17,330 --> 02:09:15,599
cost per flight all of these other

3358
02:09:19,370 --> 02:09:17,340
things like I said follow up on the

3359
02:09:20,870 --> 02:09:19,380
authorities your methodologies the data

3360
02:09:23,450 --> 02:09:20,880
collection they can help us in other

3361
02:09:26,209 --> 02:09:23,460
ways but how do you think we can develop

3362
02:09:28,970 --> 02:09:26,219
a sustainable affordable response to

3363
02:09:31,370 --> 02:09:28,980
uaps where we need to

3364
02:09:34,070 --> 02:09:31,380
um that may that will definitely violate

3365
02:09:36,410 --> 02:09:34,080
our airspace not may definitely violate

3366
02:09:38,089 --> 02:09:36,420
our airspace every chance that they can

3367
02:09:40,010 --> 02:09:38,099
get because there are adversaries they

3368
02:09:42,169 --> 02:09:40,020
want this information so what do you

3369
02:09:44,149 --> 02:09:42,179
think some cost-effective measures might

3370
02:09:46,129 --> 02:09:44,159
be that we can

3371
02:09:47,450 --> 02:09:46,139
um get what we need out of that or take

3372
02:09:49,070 --> 02:09:47,460
them down whatever is appropriate

3373
02:09:50,689 --> 02:09:49,080
whatever the appropriate measure is

3374
02:09:52,850 --> 02:09:50,699
let's put it down so that that is

3375
02:09:54,350 --> 02:09:52,860
actually wrapped into the plan ORD that

3376
02:09:57,109 --> 02:09:54,360
we're working with joint staff to send

3377
02:09:59,330 --> 02:09:57,119
out what are the commands need from both

3378
02:10:02,330 --> 02:09:59,340
a capabilities perspective for kinetic

3379
02:10:05,209 --> 02:10:02,340
and non-kinetic engagements what are the

3380
02:10:09,530 --> 02:10:05,219
response functions of the of the

3381
02:10:11,510 --> 02:10:09,540
particular wings or or navy what have

3382
02:10:14,390 --> 02:10:11,520
you and then

3383
02:10:15,950 --> 02:10:14,400
what authorities do they need so one of

3384
02:10:18,050 --> 02:10:15,960
the one of the challenges that we've

3385
02:10:20,810 --> 02:10:18,060
seen is is you know there's an

3386
02:10:23,930 --> 02:10:20,820
authorities issues with the with the

3387
02:10:25,250 --> 02:10:23,940
owners operators of those ranges that

3388
02:10:29,709 --> 02:10:25,260
they need to work through and we're

3389
02:10:32,930 --> 02:10:29,719
working that with joint staff and OSD so

3390
02:10:34,550 --> 02:10:32,940
big picture we need to do all that if

3391
02:10:36,169 --> 02:10:34,560
you want to get down to the specifics

3392
02:10:37,970 --> 02:10:36,179
for you know there are non-kinetic

3393
02:10:40,870 --> 02:10:37,980
options to engage pretty much everything

3394
02:10:44,530 --> 02:10:40,880
right whether it's electronic warfare

3395
02:10:47,270 --> 02:10:44,540
whether it's you know Laser Technology

3396
02:10:50,570 --> 02:10:47,280
having a good data collection Predictive

3397
02:10:52,609 --> 02:10:50,580
Analytics you can inform make some

3398
02:10:54,770 --> 02:10:52,619
assumptions and possibilities that's

3399
02:10:56,149 --> 02:10:54,780
right and we will inform uh

3400
02:10:58,790 --> 02:10:56,159
recommendations back to the department

3401
02:11:00,589 --> 02:10:58,800
on here's what could work here's what

3402
02:11:02,930 --> 02:11:00,599
we've seen work here's what doesn't work

3403
02:11:05,390 --> 02:11:02,940
thank you so much thank you madam chair

3404
02:11:07,550 --> 02:11:05,400
appreciate it thank you very much

3405
02:11:09,229 --> 02:11:07,560
um I just wanted to just talk a little

3406
02:11:12,229 --> 02:11:09,239
bit about your Logistics who you report

3407
02:11:14,149 --> 02:11:12,239
to how that's going uh whether you need

3408
02:11:15,770 --> 02:11:14,159
different reporting lines

3409
02:11:17,810 --> 02:11:15,780
um by Congressional legislation your

3410
02:11:19,370 --> 02:11:17,820
office is administratively located with

3411
02:11:21,290 --> 02:11:19,380
the office of the undersecretary of

3412
02:11:23,089 --> 02:11:21,300
defense for intelligence security but

3413
02:11:25,010 --> 02:11:23,099
you're not substantively subordinate to

3414
02:11:26,689 --> 02:11:25,020
the under secretary rather you are a

3415
02:11:28,310 --> 02:11:26,699
direct report to the deputy secretary

3416
02:11:30,229 --> 02:11:28,320
are you taking Direction directly from

3417
02:11:32,930 --> 02:11:30,239
the deputy secretary are you able to

3418
02:11:36,169 --> 02:11:32,940
meet and brief the deputy secretary

3419
02:11:38,270 --> 02:11:36,179
um is the office of USD ins

3420
02:11:39,950 --> 02:11:38,280
um working with you to have the right

3421
02:11:45,169 --> 02:11:39,960
framework

3422
02:11:48,589 --> 02:11:45,179
so USD ins and the uh I I currently

3423
02:11:51,890 --> 02:11:48,599
report to USD ins

3424
02:11:52,729 --> 02:11:51,900
until they come up with the the plan for

3425
02:11:55,669 --> 02:11:52,739
how they're going to implement

3426
02:12:02,450 --> 02:11:59,270
DOD and dni are working through that now

3427
02:12:05,270 --> 02:12:02,460
I'd have to refer you back to USD ins on

3428
02:12:09,050 --> 02:12:05,280
what their plan is

3429
02:12:12,950 --> 02:12:11,209
do I need to update your reporting

3430
02:12:14,270 --> 02:12:12,960
structure in the next defense bill or is

3431
02:12:15,890 --> 02:12:14,280
this something that you think will work

3432
02:12:17,570 --> 02:12:15,900
its way out or does it need further

3433
02:12:19,430 --> 02:12:17,580
Clarity I think they're planning on

3434
02:12:22,370 --> 02:12:19,440
coming back to you with an answer on

3435
02:12:24,169 --> 02:12:22,380
what that plan is and I think at that

3436
02:12:27,649 --> 02:12:24,179
time that will inform

3437
02:12:30,649 --> 02:12:27,659
what you want to do okay thank you

3438
02:12:31,910 --> 02:12:30,659
um as you know Dr Kirkpatrick Congress

3439
02:12:33,649 --> 02:12:31,920
has mandated that your office

3440
02:12:35,870 --> 02:12:33,659
established a discoverable and

3441
02:12:38,270 --> 02:12:35,880
accessible electronic method for

3442
02:12:41,089 --> 02:12:38,280
potential Witnesses of UAP incidents and

3443
02:12:42,890 --> 02:12:41,099
potential participants in government UAP

3444
02:12:44,750 --> 02:12:42,900
related activities to contact your

3445
02:12:46,790 --> 02:12:44,760
office and tell their stories

3446
02:12:47,629 --> 02:12:46,800
Congress also set up a process whereby

3447
02:12:50,089 --> 02:12:47,639
people

3448
02:12:51,649 --> 02:12:50,099
subject to non-disclosure agreements

3449
02:12:52,910 --> 02:12:51,659
preventing them from disclosing what

3450
02:12:55,310 --> 02:12:52,920
they may have witnessed or participated

3451
02:12:56,810 --> 02:12:55,320
in could tell you what they know that

3452
02:12:59,450 --> 02:12:56,820
risk of Retribution from the or

3453
02:13:01,010 --> 02:12:59,460
violation of their ndas have you

3454
02:13:02,629 --> 02:13:01,020
submitted a public-facing website

3455
02:13:05,149 --> 02:13:02,639
product for approval to your superiors

3456
02:13:08,870 --> 02:13:05,159
and how long has it been under review

3457
02:13:12,950 --> 02:13:08,880
I have we submitted the first version of

3458
02:13:16,910 --> 02:13:15,109
and do you have an estimate from them

3459
02:13:20,990 --> 02:13:16,920
when they will respond and when you'll

3460
02:13:22,669 --> 02:13:21,000
have feedback on that no I don't okay we

3461
02:13:24,709 --> 02:13:22,679
will Author a letter asking for that

3462
02:13:28,850 --> 02:13:24,719
timely response

3463
02:13:30,470 --> 02:13:28,860
um to your superiors oh when when do you

3464
02:13:32,629 --> 02:13:30,480
expect that you will establish a

3465
02:13:35,629 --> 02:13:32,639
public-facing discoverable

3466
02:13:39,109 --> 02:13:35,639
um an access portal for people to use to

3467
02:13:42,470 --> 02:13:39,119
contact your office as the law requires

3468
02:13:45,350 --> 02:13:42,480
so I would like to First say thank you

3469
02:13:47,870 --> 02:13:45,360
all very much for referring the

3470
02:13:50,330 --> 02:13:47,880
witnesses that you have thus far to us I

3471
02:13:52,790 --> 02:13:50,340
appreciate that we've brought in nearly

3472
02:13:54,890 --> 02:13:52,800
two dozen so far it's been it's been

3473
02:13:56,810 --> 02:13:54,900
very uh helpful I'd ask that you

3474
02:13:58,209 --> 02:13:56,820
continue to do that until we have an

3475
02:14:01,430 --> 02:13:58,219
approved plan

3476
02:14:04,550 --> 02:14:01,440
we have a multi-phased approach for

3477
02:14:06,709 --> 02:14:04,560
doing that that we've been uh

3478
02:14:08,810 --> 02:14:06,719
socializing and have submitted for

3479
02:14:10,390 --> 02:14:08,820
approval

3480
02:14:12,950 --> 02:14:10,400
sometime

3481
02:14:15,410 --> 02:14:12,960
and once that happens then we should be

3482
02:14:17,750 --> 02:14:15,420
able to push all that out and get uh get

3483
02:14:19,609 --> 02:14:17,760
this a little more automated great

3484
02:14:22,609 --> 02:14:19,619
um what I would ask though is as you all

3485
02:14:24,830 --> 02:14:22,619
continue to refer to us and refer

3486
02:14:28,310 --> 02:14:24,840
witnesses to us I'd appreciate if you do

3487
02:14:30,169 --> 02:14:28,320
that please try to prioritize the ones

3488
02:14:30,910 --> 02:14:30,179
that you want to do because we do have a

3489
02:14:34,129 --> 02:14:30,920
small

3490
02:14:35,810 --> 02:14:34,139
research staff dealing with that

3491
02:14:37,850 --> 02:14:35,820
thank you

3492
02:14:39,470 --> 02:14:37,860
um and then do you have any uh plans for

3493
02:14:41,629 --> 02:14:39,480
public engagement that you want to share

3494
02:14:44,330 --> 02:14:41,639
now that you think it's important that

3495
02:14:47,149 --> 02:14:44,340
the public knows what the plan is

3496
02:14:49,870 --> 02:14:47,159
so we have a uh

3497
02:14:52,370 --> 02:14:49,880
a number of public engagement

3498
02:14:55,490 --> 02:14:52,380
recommendations uh according to our

3499
02:14:57,770 --> 02:14:55,500
strategic plan all of those have been

3500
02:15:01,910 --> 02:14:57,780
submitted for approval they have to be

3501
02:15:03,770 --> 02:15:01,920
approved by usdins we are waiting for

3502
02:15:05,510 --> 02:15:03,780
approval to go do that okay I will

3503
02:15:07,730 --> 02:15:05,520
follow up on that

3504
02:15:08,209 --> 02:15:07,740
um and then my last question is about

3505
02:15:09,709 --> 02:15:08,219
[Music]

3506
02:15:11,750 --> 02:15:09,719
um

3507
02:15:13,550 --> 02:15:11,760
the integration of departments UAP

3508
02:15:15,970 --> 02:15:13,560
operations research analysis and

3509
02:15:18,890 --> 02:15:15,980
strategic Communications

3510
02:15:20,810 --> 02:15:18,900
during the recent UAP incidents over

3511
02:15:23,510 --> 02:15:20,820
North America it didn't appear that you

3512
02:15:24,950 --> 02:15:23,520
were allowed to play that role do you

3513
02:15:26,510 --> 02:15:24,960
agree that the public perception is

3514
02:15:27,950 --> 02:15:26,520
generally that you and your office did

3515
02:15:29,330 --> 02:15:27,960
not appear to play a major role in the

3516
02:15:31,390 --> 02:15:29,340
Department's response to the detection

3517
02:15:33,950 --> 02:15:31,400
of objects over North America

3518
02:15:35,510 --> 02:15:33,960
what can you tell us that's going on

3519
02:15:37,850 --> 02:15:35,520
behind the scenes from your perspective

3520
02:15:40,310 --> 02:15:37,860
and in the after action assessment

3521
02:15:41,750 --> 02:15:40,320
process is there awareness that there is

3522
02:15:44,930 --> 02:15:41,760
a need to operate differently in the

3523
02:15:47,390 --> 02:15:44,940
future and a commitment to doing so

3524
02:15:50,390 --> 02:15:47,400
when the when the objects were first

3525
02:15:54,169 --> 02:15:50,400
detected I got called by joint staff

3526
02:15:57,770 --> 02:15:54,179
leadership uh to come in uh late one

3527
02:16:01,189 --> 02:15:57,780
night to review events as they were unfo

3528
02:16:03,109 --> 02:16:01,199
unfolding and to give them a you know an

3529
02:16:04,209 --> 02:16:03,119
assessment based on what we knew at that

3530
02:16:07,729 --> 02:16:04,219
time

3531
02:16:11,390 --> 02:16:07,739
I did that I worked with the director of

3532
02:16:14,030 --> 02:16:11,400
joint staff the J2 and the j3 that night

3533
02:16:16,490 --> 02:16:14,040
and over the couple of following days on

3534
02:16:18,770 --> 02:16:16,500
what are the types of things that we are

3535
02:16:21,410 --> 02:16:18,780
tracking from a unidentified object

3536
02:16:23,930 --> 02:16:21,420
perspective what databases do we use

3537
02:16:27,169 --> 02:16:23,940
those sorts of things for for Norm for

3538
02:16:28,729 --> 02:16:27,179
known objects known tracking

3539
02:16:31,910 --> 02:16:28,739
um

3540
02:16:33,650 --> 02:16:31,920
beyond that the response I would have to

3541
02:16:36,110 --> 02:16:33,660
I would have to refer you back to the

3542
02:16:40,009 --> 02:16:36,120
White House for the decision on how they

3543
02:16:42,830 --> 02:16:40,019
did the response we did not play a role

3544
02:16:44,209 --> 02:16:42,840
in what you would respond other than

3545
02:16:44,870 --> 02:16:44,219
that initial

3546
02:16:46,849 --> 02:16:44,880
um

3547
02:16:51,950 --> 02:16:46,859
you know advice on what we are seeing

3548
02:16:58,610 --> 02:16:55,129
thank you Matt thank you madam chair

3549
02:17:01,310 --> 02:16:58,620
um Dr Kirkpatrick I I know that your

3550
02:17:04,669 --> 02:17:01,320
office has gotten a lot of attention uh

3551
02:17:07,190 --> 02:17:04,679
recently and of course any new agency

3552
02:17:10,129 --> 02:17:07,200
there tends to be a push to increase

3553
02:17:11,929 --> 02:17:10,139
size and and funding

3554
02:17:14,690 --> 02:17:11,939
um we want to make sure that you're able

3555
02:17:16,969 --> 02:17:14,700
to meet your goals but what I also need

3556
02:17:20,810 --> 02:17:16,979
to ensure is that we're not duplicating

3557
02:17:24,770 --> 02:17:20,820
or replicating existing functions and

3558
02:17:27,830 --> 02:17:24,780
creating redundancy within DOD and the

3559
02:17:30,830 --> 02:17:27,840
interagency so what steps are you taking

3560
02:17:34,969 --> 02:17:30,840
right now to make sure that your

3561
02:17:38,810 --> 02:17:34,979
particular office and function is is

3562
02:17:41,270 --> 02:17:38,820
unique uh to any of the other agencies

3563
02:17:43,250 --> 02:17:41,280
that might be involved in these types of

3564
02:17:46,730 --> 02:17:43,260
cases yeah that's a that's a great

3565
02:17:48,889 --> 02:17:46,740
question so I would like to lay down

3566
02:17:50,870 --> 02:17:48,899
here's here's what am I

3567
02:17:53,870 --> 02:17:50,880
sort of my mission and my goal and my

3568
02:17:56,270 --> 02:17:53,880
vision here so the vision is at one

3569
02:17:59,270 --> 02:17:56,280
point at some point in the future

3570
02:18:01,370 --> 02:17:59,280
you should not need an arrow if I'm

3571
02:18:03,650 --> 02:18:01,380
successful in what I'm doing we should

3572
02:18:05,990 --> 02:18:03,660
be able to normalize everything that

3573
02:18:08,990 --> 02:18:06,000
we're doing into existing processes

3574
02:18:10,730 --> 02:18:09,000
functions agencies and organizations and

3575
02:18:13,250 --> 02:18:10,740
make that part of their mission and

3576
02:18:17,030 --> 02:18:13,260
their role right now the niche that we

3577
02:18:19,669 --> 02:18:17,040
form is really going after the unknowns

3578
02:18:22,549 --> 02:18:19,679
if you I think you articulated it early

3579
02:18:24,709 --> 02:18:22,559
on this is a Hunt mission for

3580
02:18:27,169 --> 02:18:24,719
what might somebody be doing in our

3581
02:18:29,570 --> 02:18:27,179
backyard that we don't know about

3582
02:18:32,030 --> 02:18:29,580
all right well that that that is what we

3583
02:18:33,830 --> 02:18:32,040
are doing right but at some point we

3584
02:18:35,690 --> 02:18:33,840
should be able to normalize that that's

3585
02:18:37,849 --> 02:18:35,700
why it's so important the work we're

3586
02:18:41,629 --> 02:18:37,859
doing with joint staff to normalize that

3587
02:18:44,030 --> 02:18:41,639
into uh Paula DOD policy and guidance

3588
02:18:46,310 --> 02:18:44,040
we are bringing in all of our

3589
02:18:49,490 --> 02:18:46,320
interagency partners so NASA is

3590
02:18:52,190 --> 02:18:49,500
providing a liaison for us I have FBI

3591
02:18:54,110 --> 02:18:52,200
liaison I have OSI or liaison I have

3592
02:18:57,349 --> 02:18:54,120
service Liaisons

3593
02:18:58,429 --> 02:18:57,359
the ice half of my staff come from the

3594
02:19:01,129 --> 02:18:58,439
IC

3595
02:19:02,990 --> 02:19:01,139
half of my staff come from other

3596
02:19:05,990 --> 02:19:03,000
scientific and Technical backgrounds I

3597
02:19:07,849 --> 02:19:06,000
have doe and so what we're trying to do

3598
02:19:12,410 --> 02:19:07,859
is Ensure

3599
02:19:15,169 --> 02:19:12,420
again as I make UAP into sap they get

3600
02:19:17,150 --> 02:19:15,179
handed off to the people that that is

3601
02:19:19,009 --> 02:19:17,160
their mission to go do

3602
02:19:21,230 --> 02:19:19,019
so that we aren't duplicating that I'm

3603
02:19:23,150 --> 02:19:21,240
not going to go chase the Chinese high

3604
02:19:25,490 --> 02:19:23,160
altitude balloon for example that's not

3605
02:19:28,070 --> 02:19:25,500
my job it's not an unknown and it's not

3606
02:19:30,950 --> 02:19:28,080
anomalous anymore now it goes over to

3607
02:19:32,810 --> 02:19:30,960
them come on very good thank you madam

3608
02:19:33,469 --> 02:19:32,820
chair

3609
02:19:36,230 --> 02:19:33,479
um

3610
02:19:38,089 --> 02:19:36,240
I wanted just to follow up on the

3611
02:19:40,490 --> 02:19:38,099
filters for surveillance outside

3612
02:19:43,009 --> 02:19:40,500
observers have speculated that DOD sets

3613
02:19:44,690 --> 02:19:43,019
filters on certain sensors to eliminate

3614
02:19:46,929 --> 02:19:44,700
objects that are moving really fast or

3615
02:19:49,130 --> 02:19:46,939
slow because what we are looking for

3616
02:19:52,429 --> 02:19:49,140
militarily are conventional aircraft and

3617
02:19:54,650 --> 02:19:52,439
missiles UAP that doesn't fit into these

3618
02:19:56,990 --> 02:19:54,660
programs would thereby be weeded out and

3619
02:19:58,550 --> 02:19:57,000
never noticed this special speculation

3620
02:20:00,530 --> 02:19:58,560
was proven to be true during the UAP

3621
02:20:02,690 --> 02:20:00,540
incident over North America where DOD

3622
02:20:04,910 --> 02:20:02,700
publicly acknowledged that we were able

3623
02:20:07,030 --> 02:20:04,920
to start seeing these uops only when we

3624
02:20:09,349 --> 02:20:07,040
opened up these filters

3625
02:20:11,210 --> 02:20:09,359
obviously our military operators cannot

3626
02:20:13,250 --> 02:20:11,220
be overloaded with objects that are not

3627
02:20:14,990 --> 02:20:13,260
conventional aircraft or missiles can

3628
02:20:17,270 --> 02:20:15,000
you nonetheless make sure that the raw

3629
02:20:18,889 --> 02:20:17,280
data is being captured and subsequently

3630
02:20:21,590 --> 02:20:18,899
processed that your office knows what's

3631
02:20:23,150 --> 02:20:21,600
really out there and is that going to

3632
02:20:27,410 --> 02:20:23,160
cost money will you expect to pay for

3633
02:20:32,330 --> 02:20:29,929
one of the key tenants that we're trying

3634
02:20:34,490 --> 02:20:32,340
to do in our science plan is understand

3635
02:20:38,330 --> 02:20:34,500
what those signatures are

3636
02:20:41,690 --> 02:20:38,340
so we get all the raw for example radar

3637
02:20:43,969 --> 02:20:41,700
data prior to the scrubbing and

3638
02:20:47,090 --> 02:20:43,979
filtering to allow it to enter into our

3639
02:20:50,270 --> 02:20:47,100
weapon systems and our detection systems

3640
02:20:53,030 --> 02:20:50,280
we are now taking all that data and

3641
02:20:54,710 --> 02:20:53,040
cross-correlating it to what pilots are

3642
02:20:59,210 --> 02:20:54,720
saying they're seeing or other

3643
02:21:01,969 --> 02:20:59,220
observations from other operators

3644
02:21:04,670 --> 02:21:01,979
what that allows us to do is then see if

3645
02:21:08,570 --> 02:21:04,680
there are any any signatures in that

3646
02:21:10,309 --> 02:21:08,580
data that I can pull out generate uh

3647
02:21:13,130 --> 02:21:10,319
what we'll call automatic Target

3648
02:21:15,830 --> 02:21:13,140
recognition algorithms that allow us to

3649
02:21:21,530 --> 02:21:15,840
then use that signature associated with

3650
02:21:23,750 --> 02:21:21,540
a observed UAP whatever that UAP may be

3651
02:21:26,929 --> 02:21:23,760
we will then make those recommendations

3652
02:21:28,849 --> 02:21:26,939
of what those changes should be back to

3653
02:21:32,630 --> 02:21:28,859
the department so the deputy secretary

3654
02:21:34,130 --> 02:21:32,640
it asked me last October to make those

3655
02:21:38,090 --> 02:21:34,140
recommendations what changes do we need

3656
02:21:40,670 --> 02:21:38,100
to make to Radars to uh platforms to

3657
02:21:42,770 --> 02:21:40,680
detection systems and algorithms to pull

3658
02:21:44,630 --> 02:21:42,780
on those those algorithms make those

3659
02:21:45,830 --> 02:21:44,640
changes that's going to take some time

3660
02:21:48,290 --> 02:21:45,840
that's where the research and

3661
02:21:50,990 --> 02:21:48,300
development comes in right it's not

3662
02:21:52,190 --> 02:21:51,000
it's not instantaneous right now a lot

3663
02:22:01,010 --> 02:21:52,200
of the

3664
02:22:03,889 --> 02:22:01,020
ranges of those filters have been

3665
02:22:05,929 --> 02:22:03,899
identified by people in the loop and you

3666
02:22:08,090 --> 02:22:05,939
can't have people in the loop all the

3667
02:22:09,530 --> 02:22:08,100
time you can you know it's just not cost

3668
02:22:12,530 --> 02:22:09,540
effective

3669
02:22:14,929 --> 02:22:12,540
so part of our budget is working through

3670
02:22:16,730 --> 02:22:14,939
what is what does that look like

3671
02:22:19,250 --> 02:22:16,740
and then making those recommendations

3672
02:22:24,290 --> 02:22:19,260
back to the big program offices for them

3673
02:22:27,650 --> 02:22:26,330
my last question is about the academic

3674
02:22:29,510 --> 02:22:27,660
Community

3675
02:22:31,010 --> 02:22:29,520
um can you give us an update on sort of

3676
02:22:34,190 --> 02:22:31,020
how you collaborate with the academic

3677
02:22:36,050 --> 02:22:34,200
community and whether how the

3678
02:22:39,710 --> 02:22:36,060
independent study being done by NASA

3679
02:22:41,570 --> 02:22:39,720
complements arrows work sure

3680
02:22:43,690 --> 02:22:41,580
two questions so I'm going to try to

3681
02:22:45,469 --> 02:22:43,700
make it quick the uh

3682
02:22:49,130 --> 02:22:45,479
1979

3683
02:22:51,950 --> 02:22:49,140
Carl Sagan said extraordinary claims

3684
02:22:53,870 --> 02:22:51,960
require extraordinary evidence

3685
02:22:54,610 --> 02:22:53,880
I would go one step further and I would

3686
02:22:57,050 --> 02:22:54,620
say

3687
02:22:58,849 --> 02:22:57,060
extraordinary claims require not only

3688
02:23:01,130 --> 02:22:58,859
extraordinary evidence but extraordinary

3689
02:23:04,070 --> 02:23:01,140
science and so how do you do that you do

3690
02:23:06,410 --> 02:23:04,080
that with the scientific method right so

3691
02:23:09,950 --> 02:23:06,420
as arrow is developing and implementing

3692
02:23:12,770 --> 02:23:09,960
its science plan it has to do so

3693
02:23:15,170 --> 02:23:12,780
grounded in a solid foundation of

3694
02:23:17,389 --> 02:23:15,180
scientific theory across the entire

3695
02:23:20,750 --> 02:23:17,399
range of hypotheses

3696
02:23:22,969 --> 02:23:20,760
that have been presented for what UAP

3697
02:23:26,990 --> 02:23:22,979
are

3698
02:23:30,770 --> 02:23:27,000
that range spans adversary breakthrough

3699
02:23:33,290 --> 02:23:30,780
technology on one hand known objects and

3700
02:23:34,730 --> 02:23:33,300
phenomena in the middle all the way to

3701
02:23:36,590 --> 02:23:34,740
the extreme theories of

3702
02:23:41,090 --> 02:23:36,600
extraterrestrials

3703
02:23:42,889 --> 02:23:41,100
all of that has physics-based signatures

3704
02:23:45,889 --> 02:23:42,899
associated with it whether it's

3705
02:23:48,469 --> 02:23:45,899
theoretical from the academic community

3706
02:23:49,750 --> 02:23:48,479
known from things like Hypersonic

3707
02:23:53,210 --> 02:23:49,760
weapons

3708
02:23:55,790 --> 02:23:53,220
or adversary breakthrough Technologies

3709
02:23:58,070 --> 02:23:55,800
as we've talked about before

3710
02:23:59,510 --> 02:23:58,080
the known objects that we have to go

3711
02:24:02,630 --> 02:23:59,520
measure

3712
02:24:06,230 --> 02:24:02,640
the idea is across that entire range you

3713
02:24:09,410 --> 02:24:06,240
have to come up with peer-reviewed

3714
02:24:11,809 --> 02:24:09,420
scientific basis for all of it the

3715
02:24:14,750 --> 02:24:11,819
academic Community plays a very big role

3716
02:24:16,610 --> 02:24:14,760
on the one end of the spectrum

3717
02:24:18,889 --> 02:24:16,620
the intelligence community on the other

3718
02:24:19,969 --> 02:24:18,899
end of the spectrum and then measurement

3719
02:24:23,270 --> 02:24:19,979
in the middle

3720
02:24:27,490 --> 02:24:23,280
once I have those signatures identified

3721
02:24:29,870 --> 02:24:27,500
in invalidated peer-reviewed

3722
02:24:32,090 --> 02:24:29,880
documents then I have something to point

3723
02:24:33,710 --> 02:24:32,100
to for all that data

3724
02:24:35,510 --> 02:24:33,720
because all that data is going to match

3725
02:24:37,849 --> 02:24:35,520
one of those signatures

3726
02:24:40,849 --> 02:24:37,859
right and then I can go well it's that

3727
02:24:43,969 --> 02:24:40,859
and not that or it's that

3728
02:24:47,389 --> 02:24:43,979
and that helps us go through all that

3729
02:24:51,170 --> 02:24:47,399
where NASA comes in and and the the

3730
02:24:53,990 --> 02:24:51,180
study that they're doing which I'm uh

3731
02:24:55,429 --> 02:24:54,000
supporting is

3732
02:24:59,330 --> 02:24:55,439
really

3733
02:25:02,210 --> 02:24:59,340
um looking at the unclassified data

3734
02:25:05,270 --> 02:25:02,220
sources that might be used to augment

3735
02:25:07,250 --> 02:25:05,280
our classified data sources to

3736
02:25:09,650 --> 02:25:07,260
understand if there's a signature there

3737
02:25:12,849 --> 02:25:09,660
we can pull on so very similar to The

3738
02:25:15,530 --> 02:25:12,859
Radars but

3739
02:25:17,870 --> 02:25:15,540
civil capabilities so for example we

3740
02:25:20,450 --> 02:25:17,880
have a lot of climate science satellites

3741
02:25:21,830 --> 02:25:20,460
for example that look at Earth

3742
02:25:23,809 --> 02:25:21,840
lots of them

3743
02:25:26,809 --> 02:25:23,819
how many of those

3744
02:25:30,230 --> 02:25:26,819
is the data valuable

3745
02:25:33,590 --> 02:25:30,240
in seeing these kinds of objects

3746
02:25:36,410 --> 02:25:33,600
the challenge in that is those those

3747
02:25:38,330 --> 02:25:36,420
platforms don't necessarily have the

3748
02:25:40,969 --> 02:25:38,340
resolution you need so if you remember

3749
02:25:43,010 --> 02:25:40,979
the slide I put up there with the trends

3750
02:25:46,070 --> 02:25:43,020
the size of the objects we're looking

3751
02:25:47,330 --> 02:25:46,080
for are typically reported to be one to

3752
02:25:49,849 --> 02:25:47,340
four meters

3753
02:25:53,330 --> 02:25:49,859
well the resolution of many of the

3754
02:25:55,790 --> 02:25:53,340
climate science civil science civil

3755
02:25:57,590 --> 02:25:55,800
satellites was much larger than that

3756
02:25:59,389 --> 02:25:57,600
which means you'd have a hard time

3757
02:26:02,990 --> 02:25:59,399
picking out something that's smaller

3758
02:26:05,630 --> 02:26:03,000
than a pixel on the imagery on the data

3759
02:26:07,370 --> 02:26:05,640
that's not to say all of it's not useful

3760
02:26:09,170 --> 02:26:07,380
and there are ways of pulling through

3761
02:26:11,510 --> 02:26:09,180
that data and going through that is what

3762
02:26:14,090 --> 02:26:11,520
NASA is focused on right now so what is

3763
02:26:16,010 --> 02:26:14,100
what are some other data sources that

3764
02:26:20,090 --> 02:26:16,020
could be used in addition things like

3765
02:26:22,130 --> 02:26:20,100
open source and crowdsourcing of of data

3766
02:26:23,929 --> 02:26:22,140
we're exploring public-private

3767
02:26:25,610 --> 02:26:23,939
Partnerships ma'am as you know we've

3768
02:26:30,790 --> 02:26:25,620
talked about in the past

3769
02:26:33,290 --> 02:26:30,800
to look at is there a way to smartly

3770
02:26:34,910 --> 02:26:33,300
crowdsource additional data that might

3771
02:26:38,929 --> 02:26:34,920
be useful

3772
02:26:41,150 --> 02:26:38,939
to augment some of my classified sources

3773
02:26:42,710 --> 02:26:41,160
and what does that look like and how

3774
02:26:45,290 --> 02:26:42,720
would we do it so that we're not

3775
02:26:52,370 --> 02:26:45,300
overwhelmed by you know everybody who

3776
02:26:55,010 --> 02:26:54,110
I'd like to tell the committee before we

3777
02:26:56,690 --> 02:26:55,020
close

3778
02:26:57,530 --> 02:26:56,700
don't you have another round yeah do you

3779
02:26:59,510 --> 02:26:57,540
have anything else you'd like to tell

3780
02:27:01,670 --> 02:26:59,520
the committee before we close thank you

3781
02:27:03,770 --> 02:27:01,680
very much for allowing us to come and

3782
02:27:05,630 --> 02:27:03,780
share a little bit of insight into what

3783
02:27:07,070 --> 02:27:05,640
arrow is up to and what we're doing I

3784
02:27:09,349 --> 02:27:07,080
hope to be able to share a whole lot

3785
02:27:11,750 --> 02:27:09,359
more in the future

3786
02:27:14,030 --> 02:27:11,760
um we have a lot of work to do so if you

3787
02:27:16,190 --> 02:27:14,040
don't hear from me outside it's because

3788
02:27:18,290 --> 02:27:16,200
we've got a lot of work to do

3789
02:27:29,210 --> 02:27:18,300
well thank you so much Dr Patrick thank

3790
02:27:34,550 --> 02:27:31,010
well that was a lot

3791
02:27:37,490 --> 02:27:34,560
faster than I thought it was

3792
02:27:39,710 --> 02:27:37,500
since I had yeah very low expectations

3793
02:27:41,630 --> 02:27:39,720
we had so I mean I'm not disappointed I

3794
02:27:43,309 --> 02:27:41,640
mean you hoped for hey we got a we got

3795
02:27:46,730 --> 02:27:43,319
an orb video

3796
02:27:48,410 --> 02:27:46,740
yeah the mosul mosul orb 2.0 or that is

3797
02:27:50,870 --> 02:27:48,420
I like to think that is the mosul orb

3798
02:27:52,730 --> 02:27:50,880
just that keeps going that could be the

3799
02:27:54,290 --> 02:27:52,740
that could definitely be the mosul orb I

3800
02:27:57,110 --> 02:27:54,300
don't know um I looked on Jeremy

3801
02:27:59,090 --> 02:27:57,120
corbell's Twitter to see if he if that

3802
02:28:02,210 --> 02:27:59,100
jumped out at him but

3803
02:28:06,050 --> 02:28:02,220
did you see the the chart the pie chart

3804
02:28:07,969 --> 02:28:06,060
it's like half of them are spheres orbs

3805
02:28:09,710 --> 02:28:07,979
yeah I can actually

3806
02:28:11,690 --> 02:28:09,720
let me see

3807
02:28:13,270 --> 02:28:11,700
I think we both tweeted the same slide

3808
02:28:16,490 --> 02:28:13,280
actually

3809
02:28:20,090 --> 02:28:16,500
the UAP reporting Trends and then the

3810
02:28:23,210 --> 02:28:20,100
pie chart half of it is orbs very like

3811
02:28:25,309 --> 02:28:23,220
Tic Tac is one percent and

3812
02:28:27,110 --> 02:28:25,319
uh I think that's probably the Highlight

3813
02:28:28,910 --> 02:28:27,120
I think for me I didn't think we were

3814
02:28:30,050 --> 02:28:28,920
going to get that

3815
02:28:31,610 --> 02:28:30,060
um no

3816
02:28:34,730 --> 02:28:31,620
I know people other people are pissed

3817
02:28:37,250 --> 02:28:34,740
off at what we just saw but it's like no

3818
02:28:39,290 --> 02:28:37,260
don't be pissed off

3819
02:28:40,790 --> 02:28:39,300
that was way that was better than the

3820
02:28:43,969 --> 02:28:40,800
last hearing

3821
02:28:45,590 --> 02:28:43,979
in my opinion it was and and it's funny

3822
02:28:49,190 --> 02:28:45,600
because people are

3823
02:28:50,870 --> 02:28:49,200
people were complaining that there's no

3824
02:28:53,809 --> 02:28:50,880
phone number there's no website and he's

3825
02:28:55,490 --> 02:28:53,819
like it seems like he's like we're just

3826
02:28:58,010 --> 02:28:55,500
waiting for approval it's like

3827
02:29:00,770 --> 02:28:58,020
government bureaucracy

3828
02:29:03,530 --> 02:29:00,780
yep and they spoke into 24 Witnesses he

3829
02:29:06,770 --> 02:29:03,540
said that two dozen two dozen and I said

3830
02:29:08,809 --> 02:29:06,780
no that is yeah

3831
02:29:10,309 --> 02:29:08,819
um I don't know why it has to be so

3832
02:29:11,750 --> 02:29:10,319
secret why they can't tell us give us an

3833
02:29:12,650 --> 02:29:11,760
idea where these Witnesses are telling

3834
02:29:15,950 --> 02:29:12,660
you

3835
02:29:18,230 --> 02:29:15,960
right but and that the what was sort of

3836
02:29:19,610 --> 02:29:18,240
telling to me was when or I might be

3837
02:29:21,469 --> 02:29:19,620
looking too much into it is when he said

3838
02:29:23,570 --> 02:29:21,479
when you please when you recommend

3839
02:29:25,690 --> 02:29:23,580
Witnesses please make sure to send us

3840
02:29:28,849 --> 02:29:25,700
the ones that you just want us to

3841
02:29:31,190 --> 02:29:28,859
like I was like he said send us the ones

3842
02:29:32,990 --> 02:29:31,200
you really yeah because we were limited

3843
02:29:35,389 --> 02:29:33,000
in our how many people we have here and

3844
02:29:37,070 --> 02:29:35,399
how much research we can do I thought

3845
02:29:39,349 --> 02:29:37,080
that was sort of suggesting that like

3846
02:29:42,010 --> 02:29:39,359
some of the witnesses we've had not so

3847
02:29:46,790 --> 02:29:45,170
yeah yeah and so what is this one of our

3848
02:29:48,889 --> 02:29:46,800
Witnesses I don't know what was

3849
02:29:50,990 --> 02:29:48,899
happening but during the the question

3850
02:29:54,650 --> 02:29:51,000
period he said what is this to Sean

3851
02:30:00,349 --> 02:29:57,290
don't send Dan Bush please we don't want

3852
02:30:01,910 --> 02:30:00,359
to talk to Dan bersh

3853
02:30:03,710 --> 02:30:01,920
there's this guy who keeps calling us

3854
02:30:06,650 --> 02:30:03,720
David Wilcock do you guys know who he is

3855
02:30:09,050 --> 02:30:06,660
yeah huge forehead looks like Edgar

3856
02:30:11,809 --> 02:30:09,060
Casey oh God

3857
02:30:13,490 --> 02:30:11,819
oh god um I don't know I can't really

3858
02:30:15,650 --> 02:30:13,500
read on the left there was a certain

3859
02:30:17,990 --> 02:30:15,660
altitude they said most of them show up

3860
02:30:20,750 --> 02:30:18,000
at the altitudes where their planes

3861
02:30:22,610 --> 02:30:20,760
where they're that makes sense

3862
02:30:25,010 --> 02:30:22,620
Nick he talked a lot about how it's is

3863
02:30:26,690 --> 02:30:25,020
it biased you know we are we picking up

3864
02:30:29,330 --> 02:30:26,700
these in our area because we have the

3865
02:30:31,550 --> 02:30:29,340
sensor so it's sensor bias

3866
02:30:32,690 --> 02:30:31,560
um typically reported characteristics

3867
02:30:36,110 --> 02:30:32,700
round

3868
02:30:37,550 --> 02:30:36,120
a typical orientation

3869
02:30:39,469 --> 02:30:37,560
um I'm not sure exactly what that means

3870
02:30:42,170 --> 02:30:39,479
what does that mean to you it's a

3871
02:30:44,210 --> 02:30:42,180
co-orientation I don't know one to four

3872
02:30:47,210 --> 02:30:44,220
meters though a meter is about three

3873
02:30:49,910 --> 02:30:47,220
feet a little more no or a little less

3874
02:30:51,950 --> 02:30:49,920
it's I I'm you're Canadian you should

3875
02:30:53,990 --> 02:30:51,960
know me well it's I was going to say

3876
02:30:56,030 --> 02:30:54,000
it's a one meters 100 centimeters that

3877
02:30:59,270 --> 02:30:56,040
doesn't help you at all uh a meter is

3878
02:31:01,190 --> 02:30:59,280
like two and a half feet okay

3879
02:31:02,630 --> 02:31:01,200
uh so anywhere like that's the typical

3880
02:31:04,790 --> 02:31:02,640
that's pretty small

3881
02:31:06,830 --> 02:31:04,800
um we call our white silver translucent

3882
02:31:09,110 --> 02:31:06,840
altitude 10

3883
02:31:12,469 --> 02:31:09,120
000 feet to 30 000 feet stationary to

3884
02:31:13,969 --> 02:31:12,479
Mach two so it's a balloon Joe Mach 2

3885
02:31:16,429 --> 02:31:13,979
right there it's a balloon Mach 2 is

3886
02:31:18,230 --> 02:31:16,439
1500 miles an hour yeah

3887
02:31:20,510 --> 02:31:18,240
everyone's saying it's like if it wasn't

3888
02:31:23,450 --> 02:31:20,520
for that Mach 2 thing that you could

3889
02:31:26,990 --> 02:31:23,460
dismiss it as a balloon right right

3890
02:31:28,370 --> 02:31:27,000
um you know what's real interesting is I

3891
02:31:31,370 --> 02:31:28,380
think it was Michael VI and other people

3892
02:31:32,750 --> 02:31:31,380
when they were showing the mosul or

3893
02:31:35,210 --> 02:31:32,760
um not the muzzle ore but the other one

3894
02:31:36,950 --> 02:31:35,220
the um big dad Phantom yeah and people

3895
02:31:39,469 --> 02:31:36,960
are like oh look it's a trail it's a

3896
02:31:40,790 --> 02:31:39,479
it's a missile and Michael via showed it

3897
02:31:42,290 --> 02:31:40,800
to him he's like no it's not a trail

3898
02:31:45,590 --> 02:31:42,300
that's I think it's part of the um

3899
02:31:48,650 --> 02:31:45,600
Imaging process it's uh what's the word

3900
02:31:51,050 --> 02:31:48,660
it's like um uh it's a compression I

3901
02:31:53,630 --> 02:31:51,060
heard it's a video artifact shoe an

3902
02:31:55,190 --> 02:31:53,640
artifact or it's a sensor artifact which

3903
02:31:56,330 --> 02:31:55,200
he said when he showed that do you

3904
02:31:58,130 --> 02:31:56,340
remember what he said when he showed

3905
02:31:58,969 --> 02:31:58,140
that one video

3906
02:32:01,130 --> 02:31:58,979
um

3907
02:32:03,290 --> 02:32:01,140
he said it wasn't well

3908
02:32:05,570 --> 02:32:03,300
he said it was that one was case closed

3909
02:32:06,830 --> 02:32:05,580
right right right he kind of he kind of

3910
02:32:09,110 --> 02:32:06,840
like pulled the rug from I'm like oh

3911
02:32:12,469 --> 02:32:09,120
that's really cool well guess what it's

3912
02:32:14,630 --> 02:32:12,479
a commuter playing dummies yeah but I I

3913
02:32:16,250 --> 02:32:14,640
knew that was gonna once he showed the

3914
02:32:17,809 --> 02:32:16,260
orb one like okay he's gonna show a real

3915
02:32:19,670 --> 02:32:17,819
one like one that's an unknown then it's

3916
02:32:21,530 --> 02:32:19,680
going to show a resolved one just to

3917
02:32:23,150 --> 02:32:21,540
highlight those

3918
02:32:25,190 --> 02:32:23,160
it's really hard for me to read the

3919
02:32:27,530 --> 02:32:25,200
shapes of propulsion no thermal exhaust

3920
02:32:29,510 --> 02:32:27,540
detector we know radar read the shapes

3921
02:32:32,690 --> 02:32:29,520
for you I got Tic Tac one percent

3922
02:32:35,150 --> 02:32:32,700
polygon one percent Square looks like

3923
02:32:37,190 --> 02:32:35,160
one percent rectangle one percent

3924
02:32:39,710 --> 02:32:37,200
triangle two percent disc two percent

3925
02:32:42,830 --> 02:32:39,720
cylinder two percent oval three percent

3926
02:32:43,969 --> 02:32:42,840
lights five percent other six it says

3927
02:32:46,730 --> 02:32:43,979
Tic Tac

3928
02:32:49,309 --> 02:32:46,740
yep second one to the top not read that

3929
02:32:51,590 --> 02:32:49,319
I think that's a tick tack I see two

3930
02:32:54,889 --> 02:32:51,600
Capital T's

3931
02:32:57,889 --> 02:32:54,899
watch these old men look at reports

3932
02:33:00,410 --> 02:32:57,899
that they can't read

3933
02:33:02,090 --> 02:33:00,420
it's partly my eyes and it's partly the

3934
02:33:05,090 --> 02:33:02,100
resolution oh it's the resolution it's

3935
02:33:07,250 --> 02:33:05,100
the resolution and we're over 40.

3936
02:33:08,929 --> 02:33:07,260
both of us this is true and so this is

3937
02:33:11,090 --> 02:33:08,939
for those who missed it because UAP

3938
02:33:13,730 --> 02:33:11,100
James and then the camera was really

3939
02:33:15,469 --> 02:33:13,740
good capturing stuff yeah you'll see it

3940
02:33:17,750 --> 02:33:15,479
uh come through the top of the screen

3941
02:33:20,809 --> 02:33:17,760
there it goes and then the camera will

3942
02:33:22,670 --> 02:33:20,819
slew to follow it

3943
02:33:24,889 --> 02:33:22,680
you'll see it pop in and out of the

3944
02:33:27,410 --> 02:33:24,899
screw field of view there

3945
02:33:29,150 --> 02:33:27,420
this is essentially all of the data we

3946
02:33:30,530 --> 02:33:29,160
have associated with this event from

3947
02:33:32,270 --> 02:33:30,540
some years ago

3948
02:33:34,130 --> 02:33:32,280
that's really good I mean because I was

3949
02:33:36,950 --> 02:33:34,140
not expecting to be virtually impossible

3950
02:33:39,290 --> 02:33:36,960
you know to fully identify that

3951
02:33:41,630 --> 02:33:39,300
just based off of that video

3952
02:33:45,170 --> 02:33:41,640
now what we can do and what we are doing

3953
02:33:48,110 --> 02:33:45,180
is keeping that as part of that

3954
02:33:50,990 --> 02:33:48,120
group of 52 percent

3955
02:33:53,090 --> 02:33:51,000
to see what are the similarities what

3956
02:33:55,190 --> 02:33:53,100
are the trends across all these do we

3957
02:33:58,010 --> 02:33:55,200
see these in a particular distribution

3958
02:34:00,590 --> 02:33:58,020
do they all behave the same or not

3959
02:34:02,630 --> 02:34:00,600
as we get more data

3960
02:34:06,230 --> 02:34:02,640
we will be able to go back and look at

3961
02:34:08,389 --> 02:34:06,240
these in a fuller context

3962
02:34:09,830 --> 02:34:08,399
what are we gonna say I was going to say

3963
02:34:11,630 --> 02:34:09,840
I wonder if we can get if they can are

3964
02:34:13,250 --> 02:34:11,640
they going to release like an

3965
02:34:15,770 --> 02:34:13,260
uncompressed version of this video for

3966
02:34:19,130 --> 02:34:15,780
the public that would be really nice

3967
02:34:22,309 --> 02:34:20,690
I don't see how people can say that's oh

3968
02:34:24,830 --> 02:34:22,319
that's just our stuff I'm like it's an

3969
02:34:27,050 --> 02:34:24,840
orb it's like it's pretty cool when I

3970
02:34:29,210 --> 02:34:27,060
see I could see Mick West going oh it's

3971
02:34:32,389 --> 02:34:29,220
Parallax and it's actually not moving

3972
02:34:35,450 --> 02:34:32,399
fast exactly it's it's parallel

3973
02:34:37,270 --> 02:34:35,460
it's a body of water it's a puddle

3974
02:34:39,770 --> 02:34:37,280
moving in the sky

3975
02:34:41,809 --> 02:34:39,780
yeah they can't say it's a puddle they

3976
02:34:43,610 --> 02:34:41,819
can't say that one's a puddle I miss

3977
02:34:45,170 --> 02:34:43,620
this I don't know how I missed this if I

3978
02:34:47,630 --> 02:34:45,180
was sleeping and I was not I did not

3979
02:34:50,389 --> 02:34:47,640
leave my computer so I missed it too

3980
02:34:52,190 --> 02:34:50,399
I'll play it yeah I should also State

3981
02:34:54,290 --> 02:34:52,200
clearly for the record that in our

3982
02:34:56,630 --> 02:34:54,300
research Arrow has found no credible

3983
02:34:59,389 --> 02:34:56,640
evidence thus far of extraterrestrial

3984
02:35:02,450 --> 02:34:59,399
activity off-world technology or objects

3985
02:35:04,309 --> 02:35:02,460
that defy the known laws of physics so

3986
02:35:06,889 --> 02:35:04,319
in other words my follow-up would be

3987
02:35:08,270 --> 02:35:06,899
would this include the witnesses that

3988
02:35:10,429 --> 02:35:08,280
you spoke to

3989
02:35:11,750 --> 02:35:10,439
so if they claim that they had worked on

3990
02:35:13,429 --> 02:35:11,760
something off-world or something

3991
02:35:14,570 --> 02:35:13,439
non-human are you saying those Witnesses

3992
02:35:16,429 --> 02:35:14,580
are not credible is that what you're

3993
02:35:18,170 --> 02:35:16,439
saying Dr Kirkpatrick that should be the

3994
02:35:20,210 --> 02:35:18,180
follow-up I mean I have no problem with

3995
02:35:22,130 --> 02:35:20,220
him saying what they found what they've

3996
02:35:24,349 --> 02:35:22,140
examined so far video wise doesn't show

3997
02:35:26,270 --> 02:35:24,359
anything off-world E.T because I don't

3998
02:35:27,830 --> 02:35:26,280
think but somebody in the in the chat

3999
02:35:30,050 --> 02:35:27,840
said do they have does he have access to

4000
02:35:32,809 --> 02:35:30,060
the same stuff that Lou talks about 23

4001
02:35:34,429 --> 02:35:32,819
minute video I don't know probably not

4002
02:35:36,410 --> 02:35:34,439
the way they didn't ask that of course

4003
02:35:37,370 --> 02:35:36,420
yeah I'll just I'll just finish what he

4004
02:35:39,950 --> 02:35:37,380
said

4005
02:35:42,290 --> 02:35:39,960
in the event sufficient scientific data

4006
02:35:44,210 --> 02:35:42,300
were ever attained that a UAP

4007
02:35:46,370 --> 02:35:44,220
encountered can only be explained by

4008
02:35:47,630 --> 02:35:46,380
extra extraterrestrial origin we are

4009
02:35:49,910 --> 02:35:47,640
committed to working with our

4010
02:35:51,770 --> 02:35:49,920
interagency partners at Nasa to

4011
02:35:53,809 --> 02:35:51,780
appropriately inform U.S government's

4012
02:35:56,270 --> 02:35:53,819
leadership of its findings

4013
02:35:58,070 --> 02:35:56,280
for those few cases that have leaked to

4014
02:36:00,469 --> 02:35:58,080
the public previously and subsequently

4015
02:36:02,210 --> 02:36:00,479
commented on by the U.S government I

4016
02:36:03,889 --> 02:36:02,220
encourage those who hold alternative

4017
02:36:06,050 --> 02:36:03,899
theories or views to submit your

4018
02:36:08,330 --> 02:36:06,060
research to Credible peer-reviewed

4019
02:36:10,190 --> 02:36:08,340
scientific journals arrow is working

4020
02:36:13,250 --> 02:36:10,200
very hard to do the same

4021
02:36:14,510 --> 02:36:13,260
that is how science works not by blog or

4022
02:36:17,570 --> 02:36:14,520
social media

4023
02:36:19,429 --> 02:36:17,580
we that was a shot at me and you and

4024
02:36:21,889 --> 02:36:19,439
everybody else on Twitter that was

4025
02:36:24,410 --> 02:36:21,899
specifically to you I could tell it's

4026
02:36:26,870 --> 02:36:24,420
like well I thought my blog the

4027
02:36:29,090 --> 02:36:26,880
transcript proved ETS we hear Dr

4028
02:36:31,910 --> 02:36:29,100
Kirkpatrick and you're telling me it it

4029
02:36:34,429 --> 02:36:31,920
hasn't know that there is tremendous

4030
02:36:37,429 --> 02:36:34,439
public interest in UAP and a desire for

4031
02:36:40,070 --> 02:36:37,439
answers from Arrow by its very nature

4032
02:36:43,010 --> 02:36:40,080
the UAP challenge has for decades lent

4033
02:36:45,830 --> 02:36:43,020
itself to mystery sensationalism and

4034
02:36:47,710 --> 02:36:45,840
even conspiracy for that reason Arrow

4035
02:36:50,030 --> 02:36:47,720
remains committed to transparency

4036
02:36:52,030 --> 02:36:50,040
accountability and to sharing as much

4037
02:36:54,290 --> 02:36:52,040
with the American public as we can

4038
02:36:56,210 --> 02:36:54,300
consistent with Our obligation to

4039
02:36:58,790 --> 02:36:56,220
protect and not only intelligence

4040
02:37:00,469 --> 02:36:58,800
sources and methods but U.S and Allied

4041
02:37:03,469 --> 02:37:00,479
capabilities

4042
02:37:05,270 --> 02:37:03,479
however arrows work will take time if we

4043
02:37:08,150 --> 02:37:05,280
are committed to do it right

4044
02:37:10,849 --> 02:37:08,160
sources and methods it's always sources

4045
02:37:14,389 --> 02:37:10,859
and methods does he sound like a UFO guy

4046
02:37:19,070 --> 02:37:17,150
he does not to me he's just a good doing

4047
02:37:21,650 --> 02:37:19,080
a good job hiding it and he's like it's

4048
02:37:23,270 --> 02:37:21,660
like this Sean UFO guy side of him and

4049
02:37:25,010 --> 02:37:23,280
then there's like the scientists out of

4050
02:37:27,410 --> 02:37:25,020
him I don't know yeah I don't I don't

4051
02:37:30,410 --> 02:37:27,420
see the UFO side whatsoever

4052
02:37:33,770 --> 02:37:30,420
um I'm curious to see

4053
02:37:36,710 --> 02:37:33,780
let's um let's just take a look a live

4054
02:37:39,050 --> 02:37:36,720
look at Twitter to see reactions because

4055
02:37:42,590 --> 02:37:39,060
and and then I'm gonna put out I'm gonna

4056
02:37:45,349 --> 02:37:42,600
put out the link for people who want to

4057
02:37:46,969 --> 02:37:45,359
join in and give us your opinion on what

4058
02:37:48,590 --> 02:37:46,979
you just saw I'm gonna I'm gonna put out

4059
02:37:51,650 --> 02:37:48,600
the link

4060
02:37:52,969 --> 02:37:51,660
in the chat so you guys can jump on you

4061
02:37:54,230 --> 02:37:52,979
also don't have to turn your camera on

4062
02:37:55,370 --> 02:37:54,240
you can just do audio if you don't want

4063
02:37:57,530 --> 02:37:55,380
I know a lot of people don't like being

4064
02:38:00,530 --> 02:37:57,540
on camera

4065
02:38:02,570 --> 02:38:00,540
um like me I hate it but

4066
02:38:05,210 --> 02:38:02,580
um so that's in that's there and let me

4067
02:38:06,889 --> 02:38:05,220
just tweet it out Mike one second what's

4068
02:38:10,490 --> 02:38:06,899
your overall on a one to ten what your

4069
02:38:15,830 --> 02:38:10,500
expectations were before and what we saw

4070
02:38:20,210 --> 02:38:18,590
I think like a 7.5

4071
02:38:23,870 --> 02:38:20,220
that's like that's good

4072
02:38:25,730 --> 02:38:23,880
yeah is that that those videos I like

4073
02:38:27,650 --> 02:38:25,740
the way you did that I like the the

4074
02:38:28,969 --> 02:38:27,660
charts he shared that was more than what

4075
02:38:32,510 --> 02:38:28,979
we got

4076
02:38:33,530 --> 02:38:32,520
um I did I do miss like Mike Gallagher

4077
02:38:35,690 --> 02:38:33,540
there

4078
02:38:37,550 --> 02:38:35,700
asking like yeah

4079
02:38:39,770 --> 02:38:37,560
like the bombshell questions about like

4080
02:38:41,389 --> 02:38:39,780
Wilson Davis notes or Maelstrom Air

4081
02:38:44,030 --> 02:38:41,399
Force Base like stuff like that did

4082
02:38:46,130 --> 02:38:44,040
historical stuff didn't come up at all

4083
02:38:47,690 --> 02:38:46,140
maybe I don't know why maybe that was

4084
02:38:49,250 --> 02:38:47,700
the clothes stuff

4085
02:38:50,630 --> 02:38:49,260
that's that's the problem I was talking

4086
02:38:52,429 --> 02:38:50,640
about like we didn't have those

4087
02:38:55,730 --> 02:38:52,439
non-ansurance which was probably

4088
02:38:56,990 --> 02:38:55,740
discussed in the classified one yeah who

4089
02:39:00,770 --> 02:38:57,000
the hell knows what they what they

4090
02:39:02,809 --> 02:39:00,780
discussed in the classified yeah um

4091
02:39:04,550 --> 02:39:02,819
I'm trying to pull up

4092
02:39:06,889 --> 02:39:04,560
Twitter and I'm

4093
02:39:09,830 --> 02:39:06,899
struggling up the one thing all right

4094
02:39:11,510 --> 02:39:09,840
well Jess is going to get the first one

4095
02:39:12,950 --> 02:39:11,520
so this is basically what Twitter's

4096
02:39:15,110 --> 02:39:12,960
saying right now after the hearing is

4097
02:39:17,389 --> 02:39:15,120
over Villa brand pushed crowdsourcing

4098
02:39:19,010 --> 02:39:17,399
data to Arrow like certain apps as we've

4099
02:39:21,410 --> 02:39:19,020
seen

4100
02:39:23,150 --> 02:39:21,420
yeah is that the NASA thing she that

4101
02:39:27,170 --> 02:39:23,160
she's referring to I don't know and it's

4102
02:39:31,370 --> 02:39:29,630
I mean she mentioned the public

4103
02:39:32,510 --> 02:39:31,380
more deaths this is a Hunt mission for

4104
02:39:34,070 --> 02:39:32,520
what somebody may be doing in our

4105
02:39:34,610 --> 02:39:34,080
backyard so yeah

4106
02:39:36,349 --> 02:39:34,620
um

4107
02:39:38,389 --> 02:39:36,359
he did say that I'm glad she quoted that

4108
02:39:39,830 --> 02:39:38,399
because it's like that's really not what

4109
02:39:42,290 --> 02:39:39,840
your mission is supposed to be unless

4110
02:39:44,090 --> 02:39:42,300
well somebody somebody yeah somebody

4111
02:39:46,730 --> 02:39:44,100
quote unquote somebody

4112
02:39:48,349 --> 02:39:46,740
they're basically in restricted airspace

4113
02:39:51,770 --> 02:39:48,359
doing stuff we don't know who they are

4114
02:39:53,990 --> 02:39:51,780
and I don't think it's all foreign

4115
02:39:56,150 --> 02:39:54,000
adversarial but

4116
02:39:57,590 --> 02:39:56,160
some people do

4117
02:39:58,429 --> 02:39:57,600
um I also think of either that or black

4118
02:40:00,349 --> 02:39:58,439
Tech

4119
02:40:03,469 --> 02:40:00,359
the dress is like leading the way Keith

4120
02:40:05,929 --> 02:40:03,479
Ray is concerned Richard butt yeah here

4121
02:40:07,550 --> 02:40:05,939
we go we talked about him earlier folks

4122
02:40:09,469 --> 02:40:07,560
who watched earlier basically somebody

4123
02:40:10,670 --> 02:40:09,479
who writ I saw Lou

4124
02:40:13,130 --> 02:40:10,680
um

4125
02:40:14,690 --> 02:40:13,140
stand up for Richard and his access to

4126
02:40:16,490 --> 02:40:14,700
certain stuff that we don't have access

4127
02:40:18,349 --> 02:40:16,500
to he works so allegedly he works in the

4128
02:40:20,090 --> 02:40:18,359
intelligence world he said Dr

4129
02:40:22,070 --> 02:40:20,100
Kirkpatrick planned on making no mention

4130
02:40:24,290 --> 02:40:22,080
of whistleblowers showing a total

4131
02:40:26,030 --> 02:40:24,300
disregard of human intelligence there's

4132
02:40:27,710 --> 02:40:26,040
no point in wasting time and taxpayer

4133
02:40:30,349 --> 02:40:27,720
money on analyzing videos that will

4134
02:40:32,150 --> 02:40:30,359
never be never prove anything follow the

4135
02:40:33,889 --> 02:40:32,160
leads to whistleblowers the

4136
02:40:36,050 --> 02:40:33,899
whistleblowers have given you I agree I

4137
02:40:38,090 --> 02:40:36,060
mean unless the video first of all

4138
02:40:39,710 --> 02:40:38,100
no video is going to prove anything but

4139
02:40:42,770 --> 02:40:39,720
if we're going to see videos I'm happy

4140
02:40:44,150 --> 02:40:42,780
we saw the The Ore but we need to see

4141
02:40:46,190 --> 02:40:44,160
the really good stuff and then like he

4142
02:40:48,230 --> 02:40:46,200
said if and we've talked about earlier

4143
02:40:50,150 --> 02:40:48,240
if people worked in these programs

4144
02:40:51,950 --> 02:40:50,160
that's what we need to hear that's let's

4145
02:40:54,050 --> 02:40:51,960
cut to the chase let's stop reading

4146
02:40:57,230 --> 02:40:54,060
render the wheel uh who was it recently

4147
02:40:59,090 --> 02:40:57,240
I think it was Ted Rowe of

4148
02:41:01,130 --> 02:40:59,100
Ted row what's what's the name of the

4149
02:41:02,030 --> 02:41:01,140
group that Ted Rowe was with he for UAB

4150
02:41:04,070 --> 02:41:02,040
Med

4151
02:41:06,349 --> 02:41:04,080
no there's another one before that he

4152
02:41:09,250 --> 02:41:06,359
formed it with with um

4153
02:41:12,469 --> 02:41:09,260
Dr Haynes uh remember

4154
02:41:15,710 --> 02:41:12,479
very similar apro something like that

4155
02:41:20,929 --> 02:41:17,270
what is it

4156
02:41:22,910 --> 02:41:20,939
I said say some [\h__\h] when I look at it

4157
02:41:24,650 --> 02:41:22,920
all right David

4158
02:41:26,630 --> 02:41:24,660
um

4159
02:41:28,610 --> 02:41:26,640
so yeah

4160
02:41:30,230 --> 02:41:28,620
Ted Rowe was saying and Ted Rose are

4161
02:41:33,590 --> 02:41:30,240
really guys if you find do you think

4162
02:41:36,290 --> 02:41:33,600
there's a world where he was saying he

4163
02:41:38,330 --> 02:41:36,300
told them what the whistleblers told him

4164
02:41:40,490 --> 02:41:38,340
in the classified

4165
02:41:42,830 --> 02:41:40,500
and that's the last maybe whistleblower

4166
02:41:43,750 --> 02:41:42,840
talk maybe maybe

4167
02:41:45,349 --> 02:41:43,760
um

4168
02:41:47,389 --> 02:41:45,359
optimistic

4169
02:41:50,750 --> 02:41:47,399
no it's maybe let's see if we can get

4170
02:41:52,429 --> 02:41:50,760
this John strata to join us

4171
02:41:54,230 --> 02:41:52,439
here we go

4172
02:41:56,809 --> 02:41:54,240
hey John how you doing

4173
02:41:59,870 --> 02:41:56,819
hey gentlemen can you hear me I can hear

4174
02:42:02,030 --> 02:41:59,880
you yep thanks for hearing my iPad I

4175
02:42:03,469 --> 02:42:02,040
have my uh camera covered so I don't

4176
02:42:04,250 --> 02:42:03,479
wanna that's not a problem we can hear

4177
02:42:12,650 --> 02:42:04,260
you

4178
02:42:15,290 --> 02:42:12,660
surprised because I had very very low

4179
02:42:17,630 --> 02:42:15,300
expectations of getting any information

4180
02:42:20,170 --> 02:42:17,640
at all and so at least we got kind of a

4181
02:42:23,090 --> 02:42:20,180
look behind the scenes of how they're

4182
02:42:25,429 --> 02:42:23,100
analyzing the data and stuff but I kind

4183
02:42:28,670 --> 02:42:25,439
of agree with Richard butt about the

4184
02:42:31,309 --> 02:42:28,680
human intelligence I I I hope that we

4185
02:42:33,889 --> 02:42:31,319
get some people uh that leak out some

4186
02:42:36,349 --> 02:42:33,899
stuff from the uh classified briefing

4187
02:42:38,510 --> 02:42:36,359
but you know to tell you the truth I I'm

4188
02:42:41,330 --> 02:42:38,520
surprised we got the videos I I'm happy

4189
02:42:45,610 --> 02:42:41,340
about the possible mosul orb 2 as you

4190
02:42:49,849 --> 02:42:45,620
called it and I you know I but I'm just

4191
02:42:52,010 --> 02:42:49,859
surprised and dismayed at how small

4192
02:42:54,530 --> 02:42:52,020
the hearing was there really wasn't

4193
02:42:57,290 --> 02:42:54,540
anybody there I mean it was just those

4194
02:43:01,190 --> 02:42:57,300
two and very few people in the gallery

4195
02:43:03,710 --> 02:43:01,200
and you know that was a letdown yeah

4196
02:43:05,090 --> 02:43:03,720
yeah I agree with that I agree it was

4197
02:43:07,250 --> 02:43:05,100
really small

4198
02:43:08,690 --> 02:43:07,260
um there was two members of our

4199
02:43:10,130 --> 02:43:08,700
community there and

4200
02:43:11,809 --> 02:43:10,140
I don't know what media is going to

4201
02:43:13,910 --> 02:43:11,819
cover it uh

4202
02:43:16,670 --> 02:43:13,920
it felt like a spare room that they they

4203
02:43:18,410 --> 02:43:16,680
found in in Washington it's like the

4204
02:43:20,389 --> 02:43:18,420
first one felt like a more official with

4205
02:43:22,370 --> 02:43:20,399
like microphones and like podiums and

4206
02:43:24,410 --> 02:43:22,380
this is like this is someone's lunchroom

4207
02:43:27,050 --> 02:43:24,420
they did it right I mean it was like

4208
02:43:30,230 --> 02:43:27,060
somebody's you know side office like you

4209
02:43:33,770 --> 02:43:30,240
know yeah it didn't have the gravitas

4210
02:43:35,690 --> 02:43:33,780
that we were hoping for but you know I I

4211
02:43:37,429 --> 02:43:35,700
really did have pretty low expectations

4212
02:43:40,429 --> 02:43:37,439
I thought we were going to get a lot of

4213
02:43:44,090 --> 02:43:40,439
them obfuscation but you know he did

4214
02:43:46,969 --> 02:43:44,100
give us a look into the process

4215
02:43:48,889 --> 02:43:46,979
um but even his opening statement I felt

4216
02:43:50,990 --> 02:43:48,899
like he kind of had some attitude like

4217
02:43:52,790 --> 02:43:51,000
the way he was looking like I don't know

4218
02:43:54,590 --> 02:43:52,800
if he got grilled harder in the

4219
02:43:56,870 --> 02:43:54,600
classified

4220
02:44:00,590 --> 02:43:56,880
um but you know he did kind of you know

4221
02:44:03,469 --> 02:44:00,600
I don't know I I don't feel like he's a

4222
02:44:05,389 --> 02:44:03,479
great advocate for us right now

4223
02:44:08,210 --> 02:44:05,399
I really haven't yeah I really haven't

4224
02:44:09,770 --> 02:44:08,220
come to a conclusion on what he's all

4225
02:44:11,389 --> 02:44:09,780
about I mean it's nice to see a person

4226
02:44:12,950 --> 02:44:11,399
you hear stories like

4227
02:44:14,450 --> 02:44:12,960
I've heard stuff Mike has heard stuff

4228
02:44:15,889 --> 02:44:14,460
you know he's a narcissist and all that

4229
02:44:17,450 --> 02:44:15,899
stuff I'm like you can't judge him from

4230
02:44:21,170 --> 02:44:17,460
that it's nice to hear from the person

4231
02:44:22,849 --> 02:44:21,180
and I once again like I'm along with you

4232
02:44:24,530 --> 02:44:22,859
my expectations were allowed so I'm fine

4233
02:44:26,870 --> 02:44:24,540
with what we saw

4234
02:44:29,150 --> 02:44:26,880
um the orb was nice but I'm with Richard

4235
02:44:31,190 --> 02:44:29,160
but cut to the chase stop wasting our

4236
02:44:33,590 --> 02:44:31,200
time if we really have this stuff get to

4237
02:44:35,450 --> 02:44:33,600
it and it seems like it's it's it's the

4238
02:44:37,550 --> 02:44:35,460
super it's the government bureaucracy

4239
02:44:39,110 --> 02:44:37,560
that's bureaucracy that's going to take

4240
02:44:40,730 --> 02:44:39,120
forever

4241
02:44:42,469 --> 02:44:40,740
um one thing that bothered me he said if

4242
02:44:44,210 --> 02:44:42,479
we have evidence of you know clear

4243
02:44:46,190 --> 02:44:44,220
evidence of extraterrestrial we'll go to

4244
02:44:48,050 --> 02:44:46,200
the proper agency or whatever he said

4245
02:44:50,270 --> 02:44:48,060
he'll we'll go to NASA how about you go

4246
02:44:52,670 --> 02:44:50,280
to the American people the world that's

4247
02:44:54,290 --> 02:44:52,680
not classified it's not classified get

4248
02:44:55,490 --> 02:44:54,300
the information out right away say by

4249
02:44:57,349 --> 02:44:55,500
the way I'm holding a news conference

4250
02:44:59,750 --> 02:44:57,359
today we have evidence that this is

4251
02:45:01,910 --> 02:44:59,760
non-human technology this is uh maybe

4252
02:45:02,809 --> 02:45:01,920
extraterrestrial that bothered me and I

4253
02:45:07,010 --> 02:45:02,819
know

4254
02:45:08,690 --> 02:45:07,020
nitpicking but but what he said but I'm

4255
02:45:10,849 --> 02:45:08,700
just tired of you know like everybody

4256
02:45:13,490 --> 02:45:10,859
else of them treating it like it's

4257
02:45:15,650 --> 02:45:13,500
something that might be cold you know

4258
02:45:18,650 --> 02:45:15,660
the thing that that stood out to me was

4259
02:45:21,170 --> 02:45:18,660
we learned a new term which to me feels

4260
02:45:25,130 --> 02:45:21,180
like the the new term we learned today

4261
02:45:28,190 --> 02:45:25,140
is like Arrow's real Mission sep

4262
02:45:30,530 --> 02:45:28,200
somebody else's problem it looks like I

4263
02:45:32,330 --> 02:45:30,540
don't want to answer the questions I

4264
02:45:33,590 --> 02:45:32,340
just want to pass the ball to somebody

4265
02:45:36,349 --> 02:45:33,600
else

4266
02:45:38,870 --> 02:45:36,359
he liked that too if he saw it he goes

4267
02:45:40,610 --> 02:45:38,880
uh SCP and he goes somebody else's

4268
02:45:42,050 --> 02:45:40,620
problem then he's pausing and looked at

4269
02:45:44,510 --> 02:45:42,060
them with a little smirk I'm like yeah

4270
02:45:46,790 --> 02:45:44,520
that was a Sean Sean Kirkpatrick joke

4271
02:45:48,830 --> 02:45:46,800
that was that was a narcissistic look if

4272
02:45:50,450 --> 02:45:48,840
I've ever seen one yeah he wrote that

4273
02:45:51,469 --> 02:45:50,460
joke last night he said this is gonna

4274
02:45:54,050 --> 02:45:51,479
kill

4275
02:45:56,030 --> 02:45:54,060
when I say this yeah but it feels like

4276
02:46:00,349 --> 02:45:56,040
that

4277
02:46:02,630 --> 02:46:00,359
just talked to somebody else who can

4278
02:46:04,670 --> 02:46:02,640
really look into it I don't want to do

4279
02:46:06,050 --> 02:46:04,680
but then but then you see you know and

4280
02:46:07,910 --> 02:46:06,060
it's Green Street so you have to take it

4281
02:46:10,790 --> 02:46:07,920
with a green assault saying oh no he's

4282
02:46:13,190 --> 02:46:10,800
really into UFOs and Skinwalker Ranch

4283
02:46:15,290 --> 02:46:13,200
yeah like as Mike said if that's true he

4284
02:46:16,849 --> 02:46:15,300
really does a good job of hiding it yeah

4285
02:46:19,849 --> 02:46:16,859
I don't buy anything

4286
02:46:21,830 --> 02:46:19,859
read says I don't even know there's a

4287
02:46:23,990 --> 02:46:21,840
bad guy anymore no I'm gonna I'm gonna

4288
02:46:26,389 --> 02:46:24,000
move on to Caspian John thank you

4289
02:46:29,809 --> 02:46:26,399
gentlemen I appreciate it it was uh

4290
02:46:32,090 --> 02:46:29,819
narcap Ted Rose

4291
02:46:34,490 --> 02:46:32,100
National Aviation Reporting Center of

4292
02:46:36,230 --> 02:46:34,500
anomalous Caspian thanks for joining us

4293
02:46:39,230 --> 02:46:36,240
that's all right can you hear me okay

4294
02:46:41,929 --> 02:46:39,240
good

4295
02:46:43,429 --> 02:46:41,939
um I I was going to say actually the two

4296
02:46:46,130 --> 02:46:43,439
two things that really stood out to me

4297
02:46:48,469 --> 02:46:46,140
in that uh firstly the fact that he

4298
02:46:51,170 --> 02:46:48,479
outright admitted which I mean we know

4299
02:46:54,410 --> 02:46:51,180
anyway that you know China is ahead of

4300
02:46:56,090 --> 02:46:54,420
us in certain technical developments

4301
02:46:58,309 --> 02:46:56,100
um that that was like that was not

4302
02:46:59,870 --> 02:46:58,319
something that I I personally expect him

4303
02:47:01,849 --> 02:46:59,880
to say I agree

4304
02:47:04,490 --> 02:47:01,859
um on on that front the second thing

4305
02:47:06,530 --> 02:47:04,500
that interests me is the fact that he he

4306
02:47:09,290 --> 02:47:06,540
was making it clear but the data they've

4307
02:47:12,170 --> 02:47:09,300
gathered there's a bit of a a a sort of

4308
02:47:13,429 --> 02:47:12,180
like reporting bias going on as to you

4309
02:47:14,870 --> 02:47:13,439
know where they're Gathering the data

4310
02:47:16,790 --> 02:47:14,880
from

4311
02:47:18,290 --> 02:47:16,800
um you know how how it's able to come

4312
02:47:19,790 --> 02:47:18,300
through how it's able to be reported the

4313
02:47:21,410 --> 02:47:19,800
fact that not all systems are firing

4314
02:47:23,389 --> 02:47:21,420
right now but I don't even know what

4315
02:47:25,370 --> 02:47:23,399
systems to be gathering data from just

4316
02:47:27,410 --> 02:47:25,380
yet allegedly

4317
02:47:29,809 --> 02:47:27,420
um but even then you know in in that

4318
02:47:31,550 --> 02:47:29,819
chart you have things like you know

4319
02:47:32,510 --> 02:47:31,560
we had that little circle chart that had

4320
02:47:35,570 --> 02:47:32,520
all the different shapes and everything

4321
02:47:36,830 --> 02:47:35,580
adding it uh even then what's

4322
02:47:38,510 --> 02:47:36,840
interesting about this is that the

4323
02:47:41,870 --> 02:47:38,520
indications seemed to be that shapes

4324
02:47:44,570 --> 02:47:41,880
like uh discs cigars triangles Tic Tac

4325
02:47:47,570 --> 02:47:44,580
that these are accounting for yes a

4326
02:47:49,910 --> 02:47:47,580
small percentage of the overall whole

4327
02:47:51,590 --> 02:47:49,920
um but nevertheless these are recent

4328
02:47:54,290 --> 02:47:51,600
reports these are not ones that have

4329
02:47:55,790 --> 02:47:54,300
been previously uh you know put through

4330
02:47:58,309 --> 02:47:55,800
their system and it's like oh yeah we've

4331
02:48:01,429 --> 02:47:58,319
resolved this so these are still being

4332
02:48:03,290 --> 02:48:01,439
reported and only in these small areas

4333
02:48:05,389 --> 02:48:03,300
where they're getting reporting from if

4334
02:48:07,370 --> 02:48:05,399
they had the public submitting their

4335
02:48:08,690 --> 02:48:07,380
full body of reports I imagine that

4336
02:48:10,910 --> 02:48:08,700
those numbers will go up exponentially

4337
02:48:13,670 --> 02:48:10,920
like that entire pie shaft is going to

4338
02:48:15,650 --> 02:48:13,680
shift because it seems to the public is

4339
02:48:17,210 --> 02:48:15,660
more commonly seeing other kinds of

4340
02:48:18,590 --> 02:48:17,220
shapes

4341
02:48:21,530 --> 02:48:18,600
um yeah there's many reports of like

4342
02:48:23,690 --> 02:48:21,540
lights many reports of spheres

4343
02:48:26,929 --> 02:48:23,700
um but what interests me about that is

4344
02:48:29,630 --> 02:48:26,939
obviously over military uh installations

4345
02:48:31,550 --> 02:48:29,640
over you know um air ranges and things

4346
02:48:33,830 --> 02:48:31,560
like there's particular shapes that are

4347
02:48:36,590 --> 02:48:33,840
being seen uh particular formations or

4348
02:48:39,170 --> 02:48:36,600
whatever whereas you know again it's

4349
02:48:41,690 --> 02:48:39,180
it's like what it it kind of shows is

4350
02:48:44,510 --> 02:48:41,700
what's unsaid is they have a massive

4351
02:48:46,010 --> 02:48:44,520
deficiency in data collection

4352
02:48:47,870 --> 02:48:46,020
um one which it seems they're hugely

4353
02:48:49,370 --> 02:48:47,880
dragging that you know that the higher

4354
02:48:51,770 --> 02:48:49,380
ups are hugely dragging their feet on

4355
02:48:54,590 --> 02:48:51,780
implementing which is gathering

4356
02:48:56,570 --> 02:48:54,600
everything from the public and I I don't

4357
02:48:59,150 --> 02:48:56,580
mind if they want to put it through

4358
02:49:01,370 --> 02:48:59,160
uh you know all the the peer review and

4359
02:49:02,990 --> 02:49:01,380
all of the you know Gathering everything

4360
02:49:04,910 --> 02:49:03,000
from very scientific perspective and

4361
02:49:07,790 --> 02:49:04,920
having it you know all by the scientific

4362
02:49:09,469 --> 02:49:07,800
method the problem with that is is that

4363
02:49:11,929 --> 02:49:09,479
if what they're referring to is they're

4364
02:49:13,910 --> 02:49:11,939
going oh well if we're going to examine

4365
02:49:16,790 --> 02:49:13,920
something on the front of is it

4366
02:49:19,969 --> 02:49:16,800
extraterrestrial it has to record with

4367
02:49:21,590 --> 02:49:19,979
scientific methodology if you're dealing

4368
02:49:24,770 --> 02:49:21,600
with something that is highly

4369
02:49:26,330 --> 02:49:24,780
unpredictable that uh you know is is not

4370
02:49:28,730 --> 02:49:26,340
going to be repeatable and it's motions

4371
02:49:31,010 --> 02:49:28,740
that you may or may not always be able

4372
02:49:32,750 --> 02:49:31,020
to intercept or or to you know summon

4373
02:49:35,630 --> 02:49:32,760
for one of the better word

4374
02:49:37,070 --> 02:49:35,640
um or track uh how exactly is that going

4375
02:49:39,590 --> 02:49:37,080
to fit in with with a scientific method

4376
02:49:42,710 --> 02:49:39,600
and if Ro isn't covering that

4377
02:49:44,030 --> 02:49:42,720
who's supposed to be and I I think that

4378
02:49:46,250 --> 02:49:44,040
was like the big question that was never

4379
02:49:48,110 --> 02:49:46,260
asked it was like you know so what are

4380
02:49:49,969 --> 02:49:48,120
you going to do about that

4381
02:49:52,910 --> 02:49:49,979
um right so it was all very fine and

4382
02:49:53,630 --> 02:49:52,920
good to to hear like that

4383
02:49:55,070 --> 02:49:53,640
um

4384
02:49:56,809 --> 02:49:55,080
you know methods are going to be put in

4385
02:49:58,610 --> 02:49:56,819
place to kind of uh get better data

4386
02:50:00,290 --> 02:49:58,620
collection that can help Pilots avoid

4387
02:50:03,170 --> 02:50:00,300
collisions so if things are in the air

4388
02:50:05,090 --> 02:50:03,180
and all of that and that's hugely useful

4389
02:50:07,250 --> 02:50:05,100
um but at the same time you're not

4390
02:50:09,110 --> 02:50:07,260
asking the question like how is this

4391
02:50:11,150 --> 02:50:09,120
affecting civilian areas like let's

4392
02:50:12,830 --> 02:50:11,160
let's just say that these are foreign

4393
02:50:14,270 --> 02:50:12,840
adversaries right let's say it's all

4394
02:50:16,250 --> 02:50:14,280
China and Russia

4395
02:50:17,450 --> 02:50:16,260
so the thing is is that the public has a

4396
02:50:19,969 --> 02:50:17,460
huge amount of reports that they can

4397
02:50:21,230 --> 02:50:19,979
submit including at times photographs

4398
02:50:23,809 --> 02:50:21,240
and video whatever the resolution

4399
02:50:25,969 --> 02:50:23,819
whatever the quality that show that you

4400
02:50:28,849 --> 02:50:25,979
know objects are over civilian public

4401
02:50:30,170 --> 02:50:28,859
areas and we're assuming that just

4402
02:50:31,309 --> 02:50:30,180
because it's not over or at least

4403
02:50:32,210 --> 02:50:31,319
they're assuming it seems that just

4404
02:50:34,550 --> 02:50:32,220
because it's not over a military

4405
02:50:37,250 --> 02:50:34,560
installation that has no strategic value

4406
02:50:38,450 --> 02:50:37,260
that has uh you know there's there's no

4407
02:50:41,630 --> 02:50:38,460
threat involved in that or there's

4408
02:50:44,330 --> 02:50:41,640
nothing to be investigated but even from

4409
02:50:46,190 --> 02:50:44,340
from there you know kind of narrow focus

4410
02:50:47,870 --> 02:50:46,200
on it it seems like just an enormous

4411
02:50:52,370 --> 02:50:47,880
oversight

4412
02:50:56,690 --> 02:50:54,349
um and um yeah it seems like they're

4413
02:50:59,330 --> 02:50:56,700
just focusing on Military cases do you

4414
02:51:03,950 --> 02:50:59,340
ever go to the National UFO Reporting

4415
02:51:05,990 --> 02:51:03,960
Center uh website Caspian the NFL yeah

4416
02:51:08,330 --> 02:51:06,000
yeah so that like you can go anyone can

4417
02:51:10,670 --> 02:51:08,340
go there to the data bank and people are

4418
02:51:12,950 --> 02:51:10,680
still seeing disks and they categorize

4419
02:51:17,150 --> 02:51:12,960
it by shape if you don't want to go by

4420
02:51:18,770 --> 02:51:17,160
date or or type of sighting and yeah

4421
02:51:22,849 --> 02:51:18,780
people are still seeing those common

4422
02:51:25,490 --> 02:51:22,859
shapes that in triangles uh saucers and

4423
02:51:27,469 --> 02:51:25,500
stuff like that so but according to this

4424
02:51:29,510 --> 02:51:27,479
chart that was released like half of the

4425
02:51:32,750 --> 02:51:29,520
sightings are orbs which sound almost

4426
02:51:34,370 --> 02:51:32,760
like what Ryan Graves have has described

4427
02:51:36,889 --> 02:51:34,380
with like a cube within a sphere that

4428
02:51:38,330 --> 02:51:36,899
could that could fit into the orb

4429
02:51:40,910 --> 02:51:38,340
category here

4430
02:51:42,590 --> 02:51:40,920
and when I was I was mentioning Ted Rowe

4431
02:51:44,330 --> 02:51:42,600
earlier and he had said he goes enough

4432
02:51:47,330 --> 02:51:44,340
he goes I don't think we need more

4433
02:51:49,250 --> 02:51:47,340
analysis we have so much data and

4434
02:51:51,050 --> 02:51:49,260
then we have the data that the

4435
02:51:52,190 --> 02:51:51,060
historical the Legacy programs have

4436
02:51:54,650 --> 02:51:52,200
collected and I know that's another

4437
02:51:56,929 --> 02:51:54,660
classification level that we don't have

4438
02:51:58,790 --> 02:51:56,939
um I'm still fine with what Kirkpatrick

4439
02:52:00,530 --> 02:51:58,800
said collecting more data all that stuff

4440
02:52:02,710 --> 02:52:00,540
I'm fine with that

4441
02:52:05,450 --> 02:52:02,720
but the main goal

4442
02:52:08,150 --> 02:52:05,460
yeah yeah and it's like peer review

4443
02:52:09,469 --> 02:52:08,160
great but again if we have

4444
02:52:11,090 --> 02:52:09,479
whistleblowers who said they worked in

4445
02:52:14,030 --> 02:52:11,100
programs and we have craft that's kind

4446
02:52:16,250 --> 02:52:14,040
of like I don't care about an orb video

4447
02:52:18,530 --> 02:52:16,260
I mean that you can't tell anything

4448
02:52:20,510 --> 02:52:18,540
about if we have craft and bodies I mean

4449
02:52:22,969 --> 02:52:20,520
even that's not going to tell us what it

4450
02:52:25,429 --> 02:52:22,979
is it's going to say I I noticed

4451
02:52:28,190 --> 02:52:25,439
so yeah I noticed that he completely

4452
02:52:30,230 --> 02:52:28,200
dodged the question of answering how

4453
02:52:31,910 --> 02:52:30,240
many he said like oh we've had this many

4454
02:52:33,469 --> 02:52:31,920
witnesses he didn't say how many of them

4455
02:52:35,809 --> 02:52:33,479
were whistleblowers and he completely

4456
02:52:37,330 --> 02:52:35,819
dodged the question of uh basically

4457
02:52:39,950 --> 02:52:37,340
saying like what have they talked about

4458
02:52:41,330 --> 02:52:39,960
and that's on the Senate that's on Joe

4459
02:52:42,530 --> 02:52:41,340
Brown and everybody else we're not

4460
02:52:45,230 --> 02:52:42,540
following up

4461
02:52:46,969 --> 02:52:45,240
um unless it was said in the classified

4462
02:52:48,650 --> 02:52:46,979
which it could have been but

4463
02:52:50,809 --> 02:52:48,660
interestingly it almost seemed to be

4464
02:52:52,550 --> 02:52:50,819
implied that what was being said in the

4465
02:52:55,610 --> 02:52:52,560
classified briefing was more to do with

4466
02:52:57,590 --> 02:52:55,620
like how uh funding and appropriation of

4467
02:52:59,929 --> 02:52:57,600
like oversight was good like that if

4468
02:53:01,849 --> 02:52:59,939
notice the times three goes quiet and

4469
02:53:03,290 --> 02:53:01,859
then he kind of goes you know but that

4470
02:53:04,790 --> 02:53:03,300
that you'd have to defer it back to that

4471
02:53:06,110 --> 02:53:04,800
is clearly implying it seems that that

4472
02:53:08,690 --> 02:53:06,120
was what the classified breathing was

4473
02:53:10,849 --> 02:53:08,700
about yeah um

4474
02:53:12,530 --> 02:53:10,859
another thing that I noticed so as well

4475
02:53:14,809 --> 02:53:12,540
was that when it comes to that little

4476
02:53:17,090 --> 02:53:14,819
set of characteristics it also notes

4477
02:53:18,710 --> 02:53:17,100
that it's it's typical

4478
02:53:20,630 --> 02:53:18,720
um so you know you've typically got

4479
02:53:23,030 --> 02:53:20,640
something that's that's this size and

4480
02:53:25,550 --> 02:53:23,040
that's moving up to Mach 2 but what it's

4481
02:53:27,590 --> 02:53:25,560
kind of not

4482
02:53:28,849 --> 02:53:27,600
um yeah he said nearly two dozen

4483
02:53:29,450 --> 02:53:28,859
Witnesses

4484
02:53:31,670 --> 02:53:29,460
um

4485
02:53:34,190 --> 02:53:31,680
so the the thing is though is that what

4486
02:53:37,670 --> 02:53:34,200
it's not saying is the outliers to that

4487
02:53:39,590 --> 02:53:37,680
so there's no outlier behind stationary

4488
02:53:41,870 --> 02:53:39,600
obviously that's the you know but

4489
02:53:43,790 --> 02:53:41,880
there's obviously outliers Beyond Mac 2.

4490
02:53:46,250 --> 02:53:43,800
that obviously Falls within the category

4491
02:53:49,010 --> 02:53:46,260
of something that is is performing in a

4492
02:53:51,170 --> 02:53:49,020
an unusual way

4493
02:53:52,670 --> 02:53:51,180
um so you know I mean Mach 2 is fast

4494
02:53:54,530 --> 02:53:52,680
enough and you know as he said it's

4495
02:53:55,309 --> 02:53:54,540
obviously not a balloon

4496
02:54:00,290 --> 02:53:55,319
um

4497
02:54:02,870 --> 02:54:00,300
almost interesting that most of what was

4498
02:54:06,110 --> 02:54:02,880
said was what was not said it's what was

4499
02:54:07,250 --> 02:54:06,120
like very obviously dodged

4500
02:54:08,809 --> 02:54:07,260
um

4501
02:54:10,429 --> 02:54:08,819
but yeah

4502
02:54:12,769 --> 02:54:10,439
um one of the one of the things we were

4503
02:54:15,110 --> 02:54:12,779
told I don't know who said this they

4504
02:54:17,269 --> 02:54:15,120
said this time

4505
02:54:19,790 --> 02:54:17,279
the members of congress the senators are

4506
02:54:21,769 --> 02:54:19,800
so much more prepared really I didn't

4507
02:54:23,690 --> 02:54:21,779
see that but I didn't seems quite cool

4508
02:54:25,910 --> 02:54:23,700
we would ask why are we more prepared

4509
02:54:27,670 --> 02:54:25,920
than than the members of you know we

4510
02:54:30,410 --> 02:54:27,680
know what arrows for it's not as as

4511
02:54:32,450 --> 02:54:30,420
Kirkpatrick said he said

4512
02:54:33,950 --> 02:54:32,460
it's not for foreign adversary it's not

4513
02:54:37,070 --> 02:54:33,960
for stuff we know it's for the other

4514
02:54:38,630 --> 02:54:37,080
stuff that's what we're here for so I

4515
02:54:40,670 --> 02:54:38,640
don't understand I I don't know it's a

4516
02:54:43,670 --> 02:54:40,680
little bit you know the arrow is more

4517
02:54:46,250 --> 02:54:43,680
prepared like UAP task force side was

4518
02:54:48,170 --> 02:54:46,260
more prepared this time right arrow like

4519
02:54:50,389 --> 02:54:48,180
they didn't have to worry about VLC and

4520
02:54:52,429 --> 02:54:50,399
like pausing like they had everything

4521
02:54:54,950 --> 02:54:52,439
ready to go they had their charts set up

4522
02:54:57,050 --> 02:54:54,960
and everything so yeah that they were

4523
02:54:58,730 --> 02:54:57,060
ready but not the other side I'm Gonna

4524
02:55:01,250 --> 02:54:58,740
Let You Go Caspian I'm gonna have one

4525
02:55:02,630 --> 02:55:01,260
more guy on here or girl but I thank you

4526
02:55:04,250 --> 02:55:02,640
thank you for taking your time and

4527
02:55:09,650 --> 02:55:04,260
adding your Insight I really appreciate

4528
02:55:09,660 --> 02:55:13,490
are you there HV

4529
02:55:18,590 --> 02:55:16,130
HV

4530
02:55:20,090 --> 02:55:18,600
all right you're not there I'm I'm

4531
02:55:22,010 --> 02:55:20,100
bringing Caspian back I want to answer

4532
02:55:23,870 --> 02:55:22,020
your question I want to ask you a

4533
02:55:26,030 --> 02:55:23,880
question about a long time no see about

4534
02:55:27,590 --> 02:55:26,040
you you were saying um

4535
02:55:29,990 --> 02:55:27,600
what the heck were you saying oh we were

4536
02:55:32,330 --> 02:55:30,000
talking about uh I'm curious what Jay

4537
02:55:35,150 --> 02:55:32,340
Stratton if he saw this

4538
02:55:36,830 --> 02:55:35,160
um what he would think because

4539
02:55:39,650 --> 02:55:36,840
Kirkpatrick said yeah we need a little

4540
02:55:42,110 --> 02:55:39,660
help with getting access here

4541
02:55:44,690 --> 02:55:42,120
according to Stratton he had the access

4542
02:55:47,450 --> 02:55:44,700
he was opening doors and then they just

4543
02:55:49,010 --> 02:55:47,460
did away with it so yeah and he was at

4544
02:55:52,969 --> 02:55:49,020
the when during his interview with Knapp

4545
02:55:55,370 --> 02:55:52,979
and Taylor at alien Khan some he

4546
02:55:58,670 --> 02:55:55,380
mentioned the smoking guy from

4547
02:56:00,590 --> 02:55:58,680
from X-Files and the crowd got you hear

4548
02:56:02,389 --> 02:56:00,600
the crowd go oh the smoking guy

4549
02:56:04,490 --> 02:56:02,399
conspiracy goes I never had evidence of

4550
02:56:06,469 --> 02:56:04,500
a smoking guy but I did have I did feel

4551
02:56:08,750 --> 02:56:06,479
at times there was a hidden hand that

4552
02:56:11,870 --> 02:56:08,760
just was pushing about she was pushing

4553
02:56:12,889 --> 02:56:11,880
against us trying to get certain things

4554
02:56:15,830 --> 02:56:12,899
um

4555
02:56:18,590 --> 02:56:15,840
so it does seem like we're starting from

4556
02:56:19,969 --> 02:56:18,600
scratch again and when we had that and

4557
02:56:21,710 --> 02:56:19,979
but there's nothing we could do about it

4558
02:56:23,330 --> 02:56:21,720
now I mean Kirkpatrick's I mean

4559
02:56:25,190 --> 02:56:23,340
stratton's gone he's with tail art

4560
02:56:27,110 --> 02:56:25,200
Radiance Technologies and we have this

4561
02:56:28,969 --> 02:56:27,120
so I don't know

4562
02:56:30,950 --> 02:56:28,979
um the next thing I'm waiting for is to

4563
02:56:33,110 --> 02:56:30,960
see what these whistleblowers if they

4564
02:56:34,250 --> 02:56:33,120
actually do come forward by the end of

4565
02:56:35,929 --> 02:56:34,260
the year are we going to hear from them

4566
02:56:37,610 --> 02:56:35,939
because otherwise

4567
02:56:39,950 --> 02:56:37,620
I do think we're gonna get to the truth

4568
02:56:41,510 --> 02:56:39,960
one day I just it's gonna take if we put

4569
02:56:43,429 --> 02:56:41,520
it put aside whistleblowers if we never

4570
02:56:45,410 --> 02:56:43,439
hear from them and we just let Arrow do

4571
02:56:46,849 --> 02:56:45,420
this it's gonna take a long time I think

4572
02:56:48,950 --> 02:56:46,859
we'll keep getting more evidence and

4573
02:56:50,330 --> 02:56:48,960
eventually we'll have ai look at the

4574
02:56:52,550 --> 02:56:50,340
data and say

4575
02:56:55,670 --> 02:56:52,560
X Y or Z we're going to learn a lot of

4576
02:56:57,230 --> 02:56:55,680
stuff it's just slow slow going people

4577
02:56:59,570 --> 02:56:57,240
really need to realize that that's

4578
02:57:01,190 --> 02:56:59,580
that's why we're not frustrated because

4579
02:57:03,769 --> 02:57:01,200
we know it's going to take a while

4580
02:57:06,110 --> 02:57:03,779
unless there's some unknown outlier

4581
02:57:08,870 --> 02:57:06,120
thing that happens and Witnesses come

4582
02:57:10,969 --> 02:57:08,880
forward and by the way I'm trying to get

4583
02:57:12,889 --> 02:57:10,979
Michael Vai to join on but he's busy

4584
02:57:15,769 --> 02:57:12,899
with a call so we'll see if he comes on

4585
02:57:17,809 --> 02:57:15,779
I don't know if it's gonna happen uh but

4586
02:57:19,429 --> 02:57:17,819
it sounds like we might not have to what

4587
02:57:21,349 --> 02:57:19,439
people are saying is that we might not

4588
02:57:22,610 --> 02:57:21,359
have to wait for Arrow sounds like

4589
02:57:25,130 --> 02:57:22,620
there's something else going to be

4590
02:57:26,929 --> 02:57:25,140
happening within six months someone

4591
02:57:29,990 --> 02:57:26,939
presenting something that will change

4592
02:57:31,550 --> 02:57:30,000
things allegedly are you there HV if you

4593
02:57:33,410 --> 02:57:31,560
are you're muted you have you need to

4594
02:57:34,849 --> 02:57:33,420
unmute your mic and then we can hear

4595
02:57:36,170 --> 02:57:34,859
from you

4596
02:57:38,330 --> 02:57:36,180
um

4597
02:57:40,610 --> 02:57:38,340
more Twitter I'll keep you on Caspian

4598
02:57:42,170 --> 02:57:40,620
because nobody else is here so Richard

4599
02:57:44,090 --> 02:57:42,180
butt asks why were there no questions

4600
02:57:47,389 --> 02:57:44,100
about Arrow's collection plan to capture

4601
02:57:51,290 --> 02:57:47,399
and exploit UAP good question

4602
02:57:55,370 --> 02:57:53,330
I think she said that it was close to

4603
02:57:59,050 --> 02:57:55,380
the mosul orb her let me see if I can

4604
02:58:02,510 --> 02:58:01,190
single rounds score Brown's credit it

4605
02:58:04,010 --> 02:58:02,520
does resemble the multiple orb

4606
02:58:04,730 --> 02:58:04,020
definitely that's what I thought of I'm

4607
02:58:06,830 --> 02:58:04,740
like

4608
02:58:08,809 --> 02:58:06,840
and then I thought of Mike's video on

4609
02:58:10,190 --> 02:58:08,819
the road again from the Ross goldmark

4610
02:58:12,950 --> 02:58:10,200
documentary I don't know if you saw that

4611
02:58:15,590 --> 02:58:12,960
kid there's a ball the orb rolling

4612
02:58:17,330 --> 02:58:15,600
around yeah

4613
02:58:22,429 --> 02:58:17,340
uh

4614
02:58:26,030 --> 02:58:24,469
like this is something I have not played

4615
02:58:28,910 --> 02:58:26,040
I was hoping to hold on because Michael

4616
02:58:31,130 --> 02:58:28,920
and I did not I'll just all right we can

4617
02:58:33,469 --> 02:58:31,140
add Justin

4618
02:58:36,050 --> 02:58:33,479
there she is

4619
02:58:36,830 --> 02:58:36,060
I share your thoughts with us Jess I

4620
02:58:39,050 --> 02:58:36,840
guess

4621
02:58:40,250 --> 02:58:39,060
what's up everybody

4622
02:58:42,170 --> 02:58:40,260
how you doing

4623
02:58:44,690 --> 02:58:42,180
I'm all right I just wanted to comment

4624
02:58:46,969 --> 02:58:44,700
on the mosul orb

4625
02:58:49,429 --> 02:58:46,979
possibility you know everybody's saying

4626
02:58:52,130 --> 02:58:49,439
that the the orb video kind of looked

4627
02:58:53,809 --> 02:58:52,140
like it or but it's similar to what I

4628
02:58:55,969 --> 02:58:53,819
would expect from that or video that we

4629
02:58:59,690 --> 02:58:55,979
never got to see Well the description

4630
02:59:04,130 --> 02:58:59,700
from Jeremy said that the mosa orb was

4631
02:59:06,250 --> 02:59:04,140
moving laterally from north to south and

4632
02:59:08,870 --> 02:59:06,260
this is a completely different direction

4633
02:59:11,330 --> 02:59:08,880
and it he's also said that it was only

4634
02:59:12,889 --> 02:59:11,340
like visible for like a little over a

4635
02:59:15,050 --> 02:59:12,899
second

4636
02:59:17,330 --> 02:59:15,060
so the I mean this video doesn't match

4637
02:59:19,010 --> 02:59:17,340
if his description was right but who

4638
02:59:20,990 --> 02:59:19,020
knows if his description's right who

4639
02:59:23,269 --> 02:59:21,000
knows if he's just like retyping like

4640
02:59:26,630 --> 02:59:23,279
what was related to him so

4641
02:59:28,250 --> 02:59:26,640
I mean it visually it's similar

4642
02:59:30,889 --> 02:59:28,260
yeah I don't think he's still that

4643
02:59:32,150 --> 02:59:30,899
Corbell released is from anything to do

4644
02:59:33,050 --> 02:59:32,160
this video I think this is like a

4645
02:59:35,269 --> 02:59:33,060
separate

4646
02:59:38,030 --> 02:59:35,279
incident but what did you think of that

4647
02:59:42,769 --> 02:59:40,849
I don't know I think

4648
02:59:44,630 --> 02:59:42,779
I don't know that's all I can say right

4649
02:59:46,550 --> 02:59:44,640
now it's an interesting point do you

4650
02:59:48,230 --> 02:59:46,560
think it was a balloon blowing fast in

4651
02:59:50,090 --> 02:59:48,240
the Wind

4652
02:59:55,070 --> 02:59:50,100
I think there's probably technology that

4653
02:59:59,210 --> 02:59:56,809
just wondering why they make it into a

4654
03:00:03,830 --> 03:00:01,849
it reminds me when all of the um all of

4655
03:00:06,110 --> 03:00:03,840
the the stuff was going on the furore

4656
03:00:07,670 --> 03:00:06,120
about the the Chinese spy balloons one

4657
03:00:09,889 --> 03:00:07,680
of the explanations that came out for

4658
03:00:13,010 --> 03:00:09,899
what one of the the alleged objects was

4659
03:00:14,389 --> 03:00:13,020
supposed to be was uh that possibly it

4660
03:00:15,349 --> 03:00:14,399
was a balloon and a sort of metallic

4661
03:00:17,330 --> 03:00:15,359
sheath

4662
03:00:18,889 --> 03:00:17,340
so I wonder if that's something that

4663
03:00:21,410 --> 03:00:18,899
they have observed before or are

4664
03:00:23,510 --> 03:00:21,420
considering to be like a

4665
03:00:24,590 --> 03:00:23,520
you know an explanation for none of

4666
03:00:26,150 --> 03:00:24,600
these sightings whether or not that's

4667
03:00:28,429 --> 03:00:26,160
you know a technology that exists how it

4668
03:00:31,250 --> 03:00:28,439
operates yeah I don't know

4669
03:00:33,950 --> 03:00:31,260
um but it makes me wonder

4670
03:00:39,050 --> 03:00:35,269
Jess what did you think about the

4671
03:00:43,790 --> 03:00:40,250
um

4672
03:00:46,550 --> 03:00:43,800
it was expected like I would like to for

4673
03:00:49,030 --> 03:00:46,560
them to have gone a little bit more into

4674
03:00:52,670 --> 03:00:49,040
the Extraterrestrial

4675
03:00:56,450 --> 03:00:52,680
possibility realm but of course they

4676
03:01:00,050 --> 03:00:56,460
didn't I mean he's at a few sentences so

4677
03:01:02,090 --> 03:01:00,060
I don't know are we going to uh

4678
03:01:04,370 --> 03:01:02,100
have some of those contingencies

4679
03:01:07,309 --> 03:01:04,380
released that we've heard about this

4680
03:01:09,349 --> 03:01:07,319
past week I mean has he pushed the

4681
03:01:11,150 --> 03:01:09,359
envelope and pushed people enough are

4682
03:01:13,730 --> 03:01:11,160
people going to be saying that oh he's

4683
03:01:15,110 --> 03:01:13,740
obfuscating and he's like hiding stuff

4684
03:01:18,349 --> 03:01:15,120
because of

4685
03:01:20,269 --> 03:01:18,359
he didn't go into the alien factor I

4686
03:01:21,710 --> 03:01:20,279
mean that's going to be interesting I

4687
03:01:23,630 --> 03:01:21,720
think it really is just going to depend

4688
03:01:25,849 --> 03:01:23,640
on people's response and I don't really

4689
03:01:28,670 --> 03:01:25,859
get an obfuscation from him I I think

4690
03:01:30,590 --> 03:01:28,680
whatever obfuscation is going on is

4691
03:01:32,570 --> 03:01:30,600
above him and it's a matter of how much

4692
03:01:34,610 --> 03:01:32,580
he wants to push back and

4693
03:01:36,469 --> 03:01:34,620
I don't really sense him pushing back I

4694
03:01:38,330 --> 03:01:36,479
just see him taking the long road and as

4695
03:01:39,950 --> 03:01:38,340
I said earlier in the show I heard that

4696
03:01:42,050 --> 03:01:39,960
he's not going to be with arrow for more

4697
03:01:44,929 --> 03:01:42,060
than a year he's going to be gone within

4698
03:01:47,630 --> 03:01:44,939
the year we'll see if that's true or not

4699
03:01:49,490 --> 03:01:47,640
um I don't know why if this was really

4700
03:01:51,050 --> 03:01:49,500
and he found evidence and he's hearing

4701
03:01:53,269 --> 03:01:51,060
from whistleblowers he finds credible

4702
03:01:54,710 --> 03:01:53,279
why he would want to leave it would be

4703
03:01:56,389 --> 03:01:54,720
the most important effort in the history

4704
03:01:58,370 --> 03:01:56,399
of mankind but then he's saying well

4705
03:01:59,990 --> 03:01:58,380
eventually if I do my job they will not

4706
03:02:02,030 --> 03:02:00,000
we're not going to need Arrow

4707
03:02:04,250 --> 03:02:02,040
you know it'll be all the other agencies

4708
03:02:05,750 --> 03:02:04,260
will be able to do this themselves

4709
03:02:07,130 --> 03:02:05,760
I don't know I don't know if that's

4710
03:02:09,070 --> 03:02:07,140
realistic I would think there would

4711
03:02:11,330 --> 03:02:09,080
always always be some sort of Department

4712
03:02:13,670 --> 03:02:11,340
once it you know once it makes it out

4713
03:02:15,290 --> 03:02:13,680
into the academic world because if it

4714
03:02:17,030 --> 03:02:15,300
gets accepted by the world that some of

4715
03:02:18,530 --> 03:02:17,040
this is anomalous I would think the

4716
03:02:20,030 --> 03:02:18,540
academic world will jump all over it

4717
03:02:21,710 --> 03:02:20,040
eventually

4718
03:02:23,450 --> 03:02:21,720
um I'm more interested in the

4719
03:02:25,670 --> 03:02:23,460
contingencies

4720
03:02:28,309 --> 03:02:25,680
um if you remember a few years ago Chris

4721
03:02:30,290 --> 03:02:28,319
Mellon he kind of went down the same

4722
03:02:33,230 --> 03:02:30,300
route with the Air Force and he said

4723
03:02:34,730 --> 03:02:33,240
look if you guys don't cooperate they're

4724
03:02:36,469 --> 03:02:34,740
going to be more leaks

4725
03:02:39,710 --> 03:02:36,479
he basically

4726
03:02:44,570 --> 03:02:39,720
I mean it was a thinly Veiled Threat

4727
03:02:50,870 --> 03:02:48,290
your buddy Richard butt who um was with

4728
03:02:53,210 --> 03:02:50,880
you when you were leading up the Taliban

4729
03:02:54,590 --> 03:02:53,220
um but I do

4730
03:02:56,150 --> 03:02:54,600
for people who don't remember Richard

4731
03:02:58,309 --> 03:02:56,160
butt who I think is a pretty good

4732
03:02:59,630 --> 03:02:58,319
interesting person accused he wasn't

4733
03:03:01,309 --> 03:02:59,640
accused he's making a joke about Jess

4734
03:03:04,929 --> 03:03:01,319
leading the Taliban it was ridiculous

4735
03:03:07,730 --> 03:03:04,939
anyway but he's not an art job

4736
03:03:10,010 --> 03:03:07,740
but he said along with James Fox Said

4737
03:03:12,110 --> 03:03:10,020
and what that these guys are waiting to

4738
03:03:13,910 --> 03:03:12,120
see what Kirkpatrick does and I'm

4739
03:03:17,150 --> 03:03:13,920
assuming that what they saw today was

4740
03:03:19,429 --> 03:03:17,160
not enough for them and these folks are

4741
03:03:22,190 --> 03:03:19,439
going to come forward but obviously but

4742
03:03:25,429 --> 03:03:22,200
why is it not enough I mean he basically

4743
03:03:28,490 --> 03:03:25,439
covered all of the bases why is that not

4744
03:03:30,590 --> 03:03:28,500
enough I think I think yeah I don't know

4745
03:03:33,550 --> 03:03:30,600
what was said in the classes never gonna

4746
03:03:35,990 --> 03:03:33,560
be enough until aliens show up

4747
03:03:37,969 --> 03:03:36,000
exactly that's enough the problem is

4748
03:03:39,590 --> 03:03:37,979
here's why it's not enough if these

4749
03:03:40,969 --> 03:03:39,600
folks if they're credible people that he

4750
03:03:43,250 --> 03:03:40,979
found credible saying this is where I

4751
03:03:44,690 --> 03:03:43,260
worked I worked on this I did this and

4752
03:03:46,309 --> 03:03:44,700
then he's jumping to well we need to

4753
03:03:48,170 --> 03:03:46,319
collect more stuff we're never going to

4754
03:03:51,590 --> 03:03:48,180
know what this is if we have information

4755
03:03:53,690 --> 03:03:51,600
that we have craft that's not from here

4756
03:03:56,830 --> 03:03:53,700
not made from us the other stuff is kind

4757
03:03:59,630 --> 03:03:56,840
of like it's like tiny stuff that that's

4758
03:04:01,849 --> 03:03:59,640
dwarfs it dwarves the sighting of an orb

4759
03:04:03,950 --> 03:04:01,859
I don't care about an orb if we have

4760
03:04:05,389 --> 03:04:03,960
craft we have witnesses so what are

4761
03:04:07,130 --> 03:04:05,399
those Witnesses saying I'm not saying we

4762
03:04:08,929 --> 03:04:07,140
do have that stuff I don't know maybe

4763
03:04:10,610 --> 03:04:08,939
maybe it's just still talk though Joe

4764
03:04:12,530 --> 03:04:10,620
maybe these Witnesses are like yeah I

4765
03:04:14,150 --> 03:04:12,540
know of it but yeah maybe they struck

4766
03:04:15,349 --> 03:04:14,160
maybe the witnesses suck that's why by

4767
03:04:16,730 --> 03:04:15,359
the end of the year that's why I like

4768
03:04:18,530 --> 03:04:16,740
that they put a time limit on this

4769
03:04:20,570 --> 03:04:18,540
that's why they said next six months end

4770
03:04:22,969 --> 03:04:20,580
of this year okay good it's not like I'm

4771
03:04:24,349 --> 03:04:22,979
Gonna Leave the field but I'm gonna my

4772
03:04:25,849 --> 03:04:24,359
expectations will be lowered even more

4773
03:04:27,590 --> 03:04:25,859
that we're going to get answers if we

4774
03:04:29,690 --> 03:04:27,600
don't have something that we can finally

4775
03:04:31,070 --> 03:04:29,700
say at the end of the year oh my God can

4776
03:04:33,710 --> 03:04:31,080
you believe what that guy just said and

4777
03:04:35,750 --> 03:04:33,720
the evidence he provided provided if if

4778
03:04:37,190 --> 03:04:35,760
that doesn't happen we're definitely

4779
03:04:41,510 --> 03:04:37,200
gonna we're definitely definitely gonna

4780
03:04:44,570 --> 03:04:41,520
take a credibility hit as as a

4781
03:04:46,550 --> 03:04:44,580
group yep because everyone made it clear

4782
03:04:48,650 --> 03:04:46,560
2023 is going to be an awesome year

4783
03:04:50,750 --> 03:04:48,660
everyone said it I mean the reporting

4784
03:04:52,490 --> 03:04:50,760
mechanisms for Arrow aren't even

4785
03:04:55,130 --> 03:04:52,500
scheduled to be released until July

4786
03:04:57,830 --> 03:04:55,140
though like the office had six months to

4787
03:04:59,510 --> 03:04:57,840
actually you know by text get up and

4788
03:05:01,490 --> 03:04:59,520
running so they're not even technically

4789
03:05:04,849 --> 03:05:01,500
supposed to be running until after July

4790
03:05:07,070 --> 03:05:04,859
so I think that's a little bit soon and

4791
03:05:08,929 --> 03:05:07,080
you know me like I want it now but I

4792
03:05:10,550 --> 03:05:08,939
still think that it's that's that's a

4793
03:05:12,410 --> 03:05:10,560
little soon

4794
03:05:14,450 --> 03:05:12,420
yeah it's government it's the damn red

4795
03:05:17,210 --> 03:05:14,460
tape bureaucracy takes forever

4796
03:05:18,950 --> 03:05:17,220
um some of that's us not having patience

4797
03:05:21,710 --> 03:05:18,960
I mean none of us we all want it now

4798
03:05:23,450 --> 03:05:21,720
that's why that's why I think and I've

4799
03:05:25,670 --> 03:05:23,460
changed I've changed the way I used to

4800
03:05:27,230 --> 03:05:25,680
handle this I used to be more expecting

4801
03:05:28,730 --> 03:05:27,240
more and then I'll be disappointed and

4802
03:05:30,410 --> 03:05:28,740
then I'd be disappointed for a couple

4803
03:05:31,130 --> 03:05:30,420
days and get back to normal now it's

4804
03:05:32,870 --> 03:05:31,140
like

4805
03:05:34,910 --> 03:05:32,880
I don't have the expectations so

4806
03:05:36,710 --> 03:05:34,920
whatever happens is anything above my

4807
03:05:39,590 --> 03:05:36,720
expectations is good and my expectations

4808
03:05:42,170 --> 03:05:39,600
are low so but at least we have like I

4809
03:05:43,969 --> 03:05:42,180
said at the end of the year

4810
03:05:45,889 --> 03:05:43,979
and we'll have at least we'll be able to

4811
03:05:47,330 --> 03:05:45,899
say well nothing happened what the hell

4812
03:05:48,830 --> 03:05:47,340
happened and we'll see what the excuses

4813
03:05:50,269 --> 03:05:48,840
are and I'm not saying I'm not saying

4814
03:05:51,349 --> 03:05:50,279
that nothing's gonna happen I don't know

4815
03:05:52,969 --> 03:05:51,359
what's going to happen I don't know

4816
03:05:53,809 --> 03:05:52,979
exactly what whistleblowers are going to

4817
03:05:55,969 --> 03:05:53,819
say

4818
03:05:57,950 --> 03:05:55,979
I met one whistleblower

4819
03:05:59,330 --> 03:05:57,960
as far as I know that person was not a

4820
03:06:02,389 --> 03:05:59,340
scientist

4821
03:06:04,190 --> 03:06:02,399
um what that person will say and

4822
03:06:06,469 --> 03:06:04,200
as far as whether it's about Crash

4823
03:06:07,610 --> 03:06:06,479
retrievals I don't know

4824
03:06:12,349 --> 03:06:07,620
um

4825
03:06:15,830 --> 03:06:14,269
Danny Silva didn't get to see it but

4826
03:06:18,710 --> 03:06:15,840
music and Truth

4827
03:06:21,110 --> 03:06:18,720
uh said it was meh very basic questions

4828
03:06:22,790 --> 03:06:21,120
missed or video only semi-decent thing

4829
03:06:24,290 --> 03:06:22,800
Kirkpatrick was so excited to be there

4830
03:06:36,190 --> 03:06:24,300
he talked like someone's [\h__\h] in his

4831
03:06:40,790 --> 03:06:39,110
actually I think if people want to at

4832
03:06:43,670 --> 03:06:40,800
least have an idea of what might be

4833
03:06:46,550 --> 03:06:43,680
going on social media is pretty good

4834
03:06:47,929 --> 03:06:46,560
um The Narcissist comment he's pissed I

4835
03:06:49,490 --> 03:06:47,939
could tell yeah well if you're not happy

4836
03:06:51,889 --> 03:06:49,500
with us if your account gets blocked

4837
03:06:54,830 --> 03:06:51,899
later today you'll know why I I also

4838
03:06:57,230 --> 03:06:54,840
he's clearly trying to funnel all of

4839
03:07:00,650 --> 03:06:57,240
like everything the public is going to

4840
03:07:02,510 --> 03:07:00,660
get into RO system so it's like you know

4841
03:07:03,710 --> 03:07:02,520
don't don't go to social media don't go

4842
03:07:05,450 --> 03:07:03,720
to blogs and everything like that if

4843
03:07:07,070 --> 03:07:05,460
your information just come to us submit

4844
03:07:08,809 --> 03:07:07,080
everything to us we'll give everything

4845
03:07:11,090 --> 03:07:08,819
to you that's the only thing you should

4846
03:07:13,070 --> 03:07:11,100
follow on you know everything else out

4847
03:07:14,570 --> 03:07:13,080
there that's you know the sensationalism

4848
03:07:17,330 --> 03:07:14,580
and the conspiracy and the mystery and

4849
03:07:19,670 --> 03:07:17,340
conspiracy exactly yeah I'm the first to

4850
03:07:22,670 --> 03:07:19,680
admit that all my stuff is speculation

4851
03:07:25,070 --> 03:07:22,680
but it's it's based on just reading the

4852
03:07:27,230 --> 03:07:25,080
same type of stuff and anecdotal data

4853
03:07:29,150 --> 03:07:27,240
over and over again that I'm thinking

4854
03:07:30,290 --> 03:07:29,160
maybe we might have some grasp and I

4855
03:07:32,090 --> 03:07:30,300
don't know what's going on even though

4856
03:07:33,710 --> 03:07:32,100
some days I think more than I then

4857
03:07:35,929 --> 03:07:33,720
another day and all of a sudden I'll

4858
03:07:37,309 --> 03:07:35,939
come to a conclusion or or a very soft

4859
03:07:38,990 --> 03:07:37,319
conclusion and the next day I'm like

4860
03:07:40,849 --> 03:07:39,000
that's nonsense what were you thinking

4861
03:07:43,269 --> 03:07:40,859
that's not that's that can't possible be

4862
03:07:46,250 --> 03:07:43,279
true I really don't know here's somebody

4863
03:07:47,809 --> 03:07:46,260
who is he's been pretty critical the

4864
03:07:49,910 --> 03:07:47,819
last couple of years but he says Jason

4865
03:07:51,590 --> 03:07:49,920
MccLellan today's Congressional UFO

4866
03:07:53,990 --> 03:07:51,600
hearing was pleasantly surprising for me

4867
03:07:55,429 --> 03:07:54,000
my opinion of Harrow has improved and

4868
03:07:57,950 --> 03:07:55,439
I'm more optimistic about the group's

4869
03:08:00,050 --> 03:07:57,960
efforts uh glad to see it hasn't rapidly

4870
03:08:03,309 --> 03:08:00,060
devolved into what the Perpetual rumor

4871
03:08:09,950 --> 03:08:03,319
attention Mill AKA insiders like

4872
03:08:13,010 --> 03:08:11,510
um yeah we've we saw a lot of negative

4873
03:08:14,750 --> 03:08:13,020
stuff but

4874
03:08:16,550 --> 03:08:14,760
um I don't think I don't think our

4875
03:08:19,490 --> 03:08:16,560
worries have been

4876
03:08:22,429 --> 03:08:19,500
a laid at this point but it was it was

4877
03:08:24,050 --> 03:08:22,439
okay it was okay you know

4878
03:08:26,269 --> 03:08:24,060
in the video yeah a lot of people like

4879
03:08:27,710 --> 03:08:26,279
that video which I didn't like I said I

4880
03:08:28,809 --> 03:08:27,720
didn't expect

4881
03:08:31,610 --> 03:08:28,819
um

4882
03:08:34,490 --> 03:08:31,620
I wasn't expect I should have expected

4883
03:08:36,650 --> 03:08:34,500
the second video to be explained

4884
03:08:38,150 --> 03:08:36,660
but I wasn't yeah like I said you

4885
03:08:40,010 --> 03:08:38,160
dropped the ball in the second video I

4886
03:08:42,110 --> 03:08:40,020
gotta admit you dropped that because I

4887
03:08:44,090 --> 03:08:42,120
thought you would figure it out I knew

4888
03:08:47,030 --> 03:08:44,100
maybe I didn't I forgot already see I'm

4889
03:08:49,750 --> 03:08:47,870
um

4890
03:08:52,490 --> 03:08:49,760
actually get this reference the

4891
03:08:53,990 --> 03:08:52,500
dandelion seeds picture I actually

4892
03:08:55,429 --> 03:08:54,000
understand what's going on I I think

4893
03:08:58,670 --> 03:08:55,439
it's referring to like a Mothership and

4894
03:09:00,110 --> 03:08:58,680
loads of little no I know yeah I

4895
03:09:02,510 --> 03:09:00,120
actually understand it like I actually

4896
03:09:04,790 --> 03:09:02,520
do yeah yeah and and I'm smart yeah

4897
03:09:07,370 --> 03:09:04,800
Angela brand early on when she was on

4898
03:09:09,710 --> 03:09:07,380
the NBC show this morning she was like

4899
03:09:11,870 --> 03:09:09,720
yeah well her interview bite was that's

4900
03:09:12,950 --> 03:09:11,880
a theory an ideal in fact so she didn't

4901
03:09:14,090 --> 03:09:12,960
really want to go there it would have

4902
03:09:15,950 --> 03:09:14,100
been nice for her to go there and get

4903
03:09:18,410 --> 03:09:15,960
his just you know his comments on that

4904
03:09:19,429 --> 03:09:18,420
paper although he did kind of talk about

4905
03:09:22,670 --> 03:09:19,439
it when he was talking about we need

4906
03:09:23,990 --> 03:09:22,680
science and the scientific method and I

4907
03:09:25,910 --> 03:09:24,000
would love for him to bring on other

4908
03:09:27,290 --> 03:09:25,920
people who allegedly have seen video

4909
03:09:28,849 --> 03:09:27,300
that says I don't care what your

4910
03:09:30,590 --> 03:09:28,859
scientific method is we're seeing the

4911
03:09:33,530 --> 03:09:30,600
stuff and it's not creating a fireball

4912
03:09:36,050 --> 03:09:33,540
and it's going mach 10 and it's not

4913
03:09:38,690 --> 03:09:36,060
creating a sonic boom so the stuff the

4914
03:09:40,370 --> 03:09:38,700
parachutes yeah one one thing actually

4915
03:09:42,230 --> 03:09:40,380
that is interesting is when it came to

4916
03:09:43,790 --> 03:09:42,240
him talking about when he when he was

4917
03:09:45,110 --> 03:09:43,800
doing that thing on two hands where he

4918
03:09:46,910 --> 03:09:45,120
had like the intelligence community and

4919
03:09:48,710 --> 03:09:46,920
the scientists and he was talking about

4920
03:09:50,030 --> 03:09:48,720
how you've got like the the adversarial

4921
03:09:52,250 --> 03:09:50,040
technology on the intelligence Community

4922
03:09:53,990 --> 03:09:52,260
side and then on the scientist side

4923
03:09:55,309 --> 03:09:54,000
you've got the Extraterrestrial Theory

4924
03:09:58,610 --> 03:09:55,319
and all of that I noticed it was really

4925
03:10:00,650 --> 03:09:58,620
interesting he put those two together

4926
03:10:02,570 --> 03:10:00,660
um as in that's that's like that that's

4927
03:10:04,730 --> 03:10:02,580
an area that's dealing with that I also

4928
03:10:06,950 --> 03:10:04,740
noticed that he did a very obvious thing

4929
03:10:09,710 --> 03:10:06,960
where he went and where you can rule out

4930
03:10:11,990 --> 03:10:09,720
but it's this and not this or it's this

4931
03:10:14,330 --> 03:10:12,000
but he was clearly going like when it's

4932
03:10:16,849 --> 03:10:14,340
not extraterrestrial as into like

4933
03:10:19,010 --> 03:10:16,859
dismiss the entire scientific body that

4934
03:10:20,389 --> 03:10:19,020
he himself is also a part of

4935
03:10:22,790 --> 03:10:20,399
um that's you know theorizing about

4936
03:10:24,950 --> 03:10:22,800
these things but the question is these

4937
03:10:26,990 --> 03:10:24,960
are scientists right why is your

4938
03:10:28,330 --> 03:10:27,000
scientific body of academics who are

4939
03:10:31,570 --> 03:10:28,340
apparently from multiple institutions

4940
03:10:34,730 --> 03:10:31,580
why are they the ones who are theorizing

4941
03:10:37,130 --> 03:10:34,740
uh with a once and abandon apparently

4942
03:10:38,690 --> 03:10:37,140
about extraterrestrials like she

4943
03:10:39,769 --> 03:10:38,700
wouldn't you be paying attention to the

4944
03:10:42,650 --> 03:10:39,779
fact that scientists are taking that

4945
03:10:45,950 --> 03:10:42,660
seriously like you know it's it's like

4946
03:10:49,130 --> 03:10:45,960
what's what's going on there

4947
03:10:51,650 --> 03:10:49,140
it's and he label it what did he label

4948
03:10:54,110 --> 03:10:51,660
he labeled the at hypothesis one of the

4949
03:10:55,550 --> 03:10:54,120
extreme hypothesis you just wrote a

4950
03:10:56,389 --> 03:10:55,560
paper with Avi lope what are you talking

4951
03:10:57,950 --> 03:10:56,399
about

4952
03:11:00,050 --> 03:10:57,960
yeah I can also

4953
03:11:02,030 --> 03:11:00,060
can also solve specific indicators that

4954
03:11:07,210 --> 03:11:02,040
we've been leaped frog in certain areas

4955
03:11:13,370 --> 03:11:10,429
yeah that was he said in emerging

4956
03:11:15,410 --> 03:11:13,380
Technologies is is possible that they

4957
03:11:16,790 --> 03:11:15,420
have leapfrogged us in a couple of areas

4958
03:11:19,010 --> 03:11:16,800
which I kind of didn't think they would

4959
03:11:21,710 --> 03:11:19,020
did he say the word LeapFrog or just

4960
03:11:24,730 --> 03:11:21,720
said I just said ahead of us just I

4961
03:11:27,050 --> 03:11:24,740
don't know if he said a Leap Frog

4962
03:11:29,090 --> 03:11:27,060
yeah I think he said he's seen

4963
03:11:31,030 --> 03:11:29,100
concerning indicators or something like

4964
03:11:34,190 --> 03:11:31,040
that I can't back out

4965
03:11:37,550 --> 03:11:34,200
but not like miles away

4966
03:11:38,809 --> 03:11:37,560
so this is this is one thing that I and

4967
03:11:41,450 --> 03:11:38,819
I

4968
03:11:43,550 --> 03:11:41,460
think yeah look at the hearing

4969
03:11:46,550 --> 03:11:43,560
none of them showed up

4970
03:11:48,230 --> 03:11:46,560
true yeah

4971
03:11:49,910 --> 03:11:48,240
it was only three members there right

4972
03:11:52,370 --> 03:11:49,920
where's Tim Burchette where's Mike

4973
03:11:53,809 --> 03:11:52,380
Gallagher yeah I mean the members on

4974
03:11:57,290 --> 03:11:53,819
this committee there's like I don't know

4975
03:12:00,050 --> 03:11:57,300
like over a dozen only three showed up

4976
03:12:01,969 --> 03:12:00,060
right only three people spoke as far as

4977
03:12:04,010 --> 03:12:01,979
it's ridiculous I didn't really notice

4978
03:12:07,130 --> 03:12:04,020
it at the point but that's

4979
03:12:09,710 --> 03:12:07,140
they didn't let Timber [\h__\h] in

4980
03:12:11,690 --> 03:12:09,720
what happened in there is a travesty

4981
03:12:13,389 --> 03:12:11,700
I'll tell you they host us again they

4982
03:12:16,190 --> 03:12:13,399
host us

4983
03:12:19,010 --> 03:12:16,200
ezekiel's wheel abducted me and took my

4984
03:12:23,389 --> 03:12:21,190
I wish Bernie would bring be brought in

4985
03:12:26,690 --> 03:12:23,399
apparently oh I wish Bernie would yeah

4986
03:12:29,150 --> 03:12:26,700
Patrick is not a narcissist from what I

4987
03:12:34,490 --> 03:12:31,790
that's disclosure when like Ben Shapiro

4988
03:12:37,250 --> 03:12:34,500
gets into UFOs

4989
03:12:38,570 --> 03:12:37,260
and Shapiro I do know who he is and that

4990
03:12:41,690 --> 03:12:38,580
orb that ore video is getting the most

4991
03:12:44,210 --> 03:12:41,700
traction videos always do yeah

4992
03:12:46,790 --> 03:12:44,220
um well I don't think Michael

4993
03:12:48,650 --> 03:12:46,800
Myers going to be here so

4994
03:12:50,090 --> 03:12:48,660
you guys have anything he found out I

4995
03:12:51,590 --> 03:12:50,100
was here and he's like no I'm not doing

4996
03:12:54,530 --> 03:12:51,600
that with him I'll just I'll just go

4997
03:12:57,290 --> 03:12:54,540
over since we have Jess and Caspian here

4998
03:12:59,030 --> 03:12:57,300
I'll just go over real quick again I'll

4999
03:13:03,769 --> 03:12:59,040
just go over my notes if you guys want

5000
03:13:08,690 --> 03:13:06,950
that's John Ratcliffe is that the former

5001
03:13:10,210 --> 03:13:08,700
dni

5002
03:13:14,210 --> 03:13:10,220
no no

5003
03:13:16,130 --> 03:13:14,220
right no he's following me I got excited

5004
03:13:18,710 --> 03:13:16,140
because the blue check mark still throws

5005
03:13:20,809 --> 03:13:18,720
me off all right so basically arrows

5006
03:13:22,429 --> 03:13:20,819
nine months old staying gay nine months

5007
03:13:24,290 --> 03:13:22,439
old they engage in rigorous scientific

5008
03:13:26,210 --> 03:13:24,300
analysis

5009
03:13:28,910 --> 03:13:26,220
um looking all the way back on the

5010
03:13:32,230 --> 03:13:28,920
historical record uh related on UFOs UAP

5011
03:13:34,130 --> 03:13:32,240
did he say UFOs at all was it always UAP

5012
03:13:36,170 --> 03:13:34,140
UAP

5013
03:13:40,429 --> 03:13:36,180
priority

5014
03:13:43,190 --> 03:13:40,439
or a DOD or intelligence Community folks

5015
03:13:44,929 --> 03:13:43,200
who encounter UAP arrows the culmination

5016
03:13:47,330 --> 03:13:44,939
of Decades of efforts to solve this

5017
03:13:49,190 --> 03:13:47,340
problem it's going to take time be

5018
03:13:50,990 --> 03:13:49,200
patient

5019
03:13:53,030 --> 03:13:51,000
um they want to improve the ability of

5020
03:13:54,349 --> 03:13:53,040
military personnel to solve UAP they

5021
03:13:55,429 --> 03:13:54,359
encounter and they may be getting some

5022
03:13:57,650 --> 03:13:55,439
of this wrong

5023
03:13:59,269 --> 03:13:57,660
my note-taking wasn't great and it just

5024
03:14:01,130 --> 03:13:59,279
can't be the dod and intelligence

5025
03:14:03,110 --> 03:14:01,140
Community Partnerships with academic

5026
03:14:05,750 --> 03:14:03,120
Academia and scientific Community

5027
03:14:08,150 --> 03:14:05,760
science community in the public the

5028
03:14:10,250 --> 03:14:08,160
majority of the Aero data that they get

5029
03:14:12,889 --> 03:14:10,260
display mundane characteristics only a

5030
03:14:14,330 --> 03:14:12,899
small number are anomalous

5031
03:14:15,710 --> 03:14:14,340
um he said and even if it is a

5032
03:14:17,870 --> 03:14:15,720
quadcopter we need to know who's

5033
03:14:19,969 --> 03:14:17,880
operating

5034
03:14:22,550 --> 03:14:19,979
um and that's when he said we need to

5035
03:14:24,710 --> 03:14:22,560
turn UAP into sep somebody else's

5036
03:14:26,929 --> 03:14:24,720
problem and then he's paused and smirked

5037
03:14:29,269 --> 03:14:26,939
loves it loves it mentioned the mystery

5038
03:14:32,210 --> 03:14:29,279
sensationalism and conspiracy which we

5039
03:14:33,769 --> 03:14:32,220
delve in sources and methods that's the

5040
03:14:35,269 --> 03:14:33,779
Fail-Safe we can't tell you because it's

5041
03:14:37,670 --> 03:14:35,279
going to affect sources and methods

5042
03:14:40,309 --> 03:14:37,680
follow the data wherever it leads he's

5043
03:14:43,490 --> 03:14:40,319
proud of Arrow's progress and then he

5044
03:14:46,610 --> 03:14:43,500
talked about the cases

5045
03:14:48,769 --> 03:14:46,620
anything on that stuff you guys

5046
03:14:52,250 --> 03:14:48,779
no nothing to ask

5047
03:14:53,690 --> 03:14:52,260
half or a round or Spear of the cases

5048
03:14:55,670 --> 03:14:53,700
um

5049
03:14:57,530 --> 03:14:55,680
that one Trail was a sensor artifact but

5050
03:15:03,290 --> 03:14:57,540
that was the commuter plane as of this

5051
03:15:07,610 --> 03:15:05,269
you know when we're gonna hear the next

5052
03:15:09,590 --> 03:15:07,620
when's the next UAP report dude does

5053
03:15:12,050 --> 03:15:09,600
anyone know he said the annual report is

5054
03:15:14,570 --> 03:15:12,060
June or July but the next quarterly

5055
03:15:16,250 --> 03:15:14,580
report is soon

5056
03:15:17,630 --> 03:15:16,260
yeah

5057
03:15:20,330 --> 03:15:17,640
and they're halfway through their

5058
03:15:23,330 --> 03:15:20,340
analysis he said 30 or so cases I think

5059
03:15:25,070 --> 03:15:23,340
okay so that's like the the cream of the

5060
03:15:26,630 --> 03:15:25,080
crop those 30 cases the ones that got

5061
03:15:28,670 --> 03:15:26,640
through all the filters um I guess

5062
03:15:31,130 --> 03:15:28,680
that's that tiny percentage Yeah Yeah

5063
03:15:33,110 --> 03:15:31,140
and then he said China Russia ahead of

5064
03:15:34,969 --> 03:15:33,120
us in some areas of emerging technology

5065
03:15:37,010 --> 03:15:34,979
he didn't say LeapFrog I don't think

5066
03:15:40,070 --> 03:15:37,020
indicators are that some UAP may be

5067
03:15:43,969 --> 03:15:40,080
adversarial uh nobody ever asked about

5068
03:15:45,290 --> 03:15:43,979
the Tic Tac ever it was a really lack of

5069
03:15:47,330 --> 03:15:45,300
questions here it was it was even

5070
03:15:49,370 --> 03:15:47,340
mentioned in the pie chart yeah yeah

5071
03:15:51,050 --> 03:15:49,380
it's like one percent and that's like

5072
03:15:52,250 --> 03:15:51,060
and then they say well I only have a

5073
03:15:53,690 --> 03:15:52,260
certain amount of questions like you're

5074
03:15:56,990 --> 03:15:53,700
only three people take the other

5075
03:15:58,130 --> 03:15:57,000
people's questions come on yeah

5076
03:15:59,809 --> 03:15:58,140
um and then

5077
03:16:01,250 --> 03:15:59,819
he said something interesting if there's

5078
03:16:03,590 --> 03:16:01,260
you know if there's a pilot or whatever

5079
03:16:05,269 --> 03:16:03,600
having an uh sighting they can call in

5080
03:16:08,150 --> 03:16:05,279
and they can turn on extra collection

5081
03:16:10,070 --> 03:16:08,160
when somebody sees something uh Senator

5082
03:16:11,990 --> 03:16:10,080
Jackie Rosen who's my Senator one of my

5083
03:16:13,429 --> 03:16:12,000
Senators asked him if he had the

5084
03:16:16,429 --> 03:16:13,439
authorities he needed to expand

5085
03:16:18,590 --> 03:16:16,439
collection of data and he said we have

5086
03:16:21,590 --> 03:16:18,600
some but we need more

5087
03:16:23,150 --> 03:16:21,600
and then she said whistleblowers can

5088
03:16:25,070 --> 03:16:23,160
tell you what they know have you

5089
03:16:26,570 --> 03:16:25,080
submitted a public-facing website for

5090
03:16:28,130 --> 03:16:26,580
approval and I know he's gotten slammed

5091
03:16:30,830 --> 03:16:28,140
for not having an email or phone number

5092
03:16:32,750 --> 03:16:30,840
but he said yeah we did before Christmas

5093
03:16:35,030 --> 03:16:32,760
but we haven't Before Christmas they

5094
03:16:36,110 --> 03:16:35,040
submitted it but they haven't received a

5095
03:16:38,330 --> 03:16:36,120
response yet and that could be

5096
03:16:40,309 --> 03:16:38,340
obfuscation at the people above him or

5097
03:16:42,769 --> 03:16:40,319
it could just be bureaucracy and red

5098
03:16:45,650 --> 03:16:42,779
tape and he thanked the over two dozen

5099
03:16:47,570 --> 03:16:45,660
Witnesses thus far

5100
03:16:49,730 --> 03:16:47,580
um and we're going to keep doing that

5101
03:16:51,110 --> 03:16:49,740
meaning take witnesses that Congress is

5102
03:16:52,910 --> 03:16:51,120
recommending to them because that's what

5103
03:16:55,370 --> 03:16:52,920
they've been doing so far until they're

5104
03:16:57,769 --> 03:16:55,380
until that whatever website or whatever

5105
03:17:00,889 --> 03:16:57,779
is in place and they want Congress to

5106
03:17:02,090 --> 03:17:00,899
prior to prioritize prioritize the

5107
03:17:04,370 --> 03:17:02,100
witnesses because they have a small

5108
03:17:05,630 --> 03:17:04,380
resource research staff as Mike said

5109
03:17:06,769 --> 03:17:05,640
maybe that's because some of the

5110
03:17:09,769 --> 03:17:06,779
witnesses who have gone through or

5111
03:17:14,389 --> 03:17:11,870
but again those are witnesses it's not

5112
03:17:17,750 --> 03:17:14,399
necessarily whistleblowers right very

5113
03:17:19,849 --> 03:17:17,760
obvious language difference yeah yeah

5114
03:17:22,309 --> 03:17:19,859
a clear avoiding of that entire topic

5115
03:17:23,330 --> 03:17:22,319
but yeah I don't think they want to

5116
03:17:25,190 --> 03:17:23,340
promote that there are whistleblowers

5117
03:17:27,830 --> 03:17:25,200
they don't want to use that word

5118
03:17:29,510 --> 03:17:27,840
no well also because when you put focus

5119
03:17:31,309 --> 03:17:29,520
on stuff going on in the United States

5120
03:17:32,690 --> 03:17:31,319
in their classified programs right

5121
03:17:35,510 --> 03:17:32,700
they're trying to move away from because

5122
03:17:38,269 --> 03:17:35,520
it has to be all adversarial so yeah

5123
03:17:39,590 --> 03:17:38,279
sorry mate no no it's okay so you guys

5124
03:17:42,950 --> 03:17:39,600
are here for jump in

5125
03:17:44,870 --> 03:17:42,960
I was wondering if uh if after James Fox

5126
03:17:46,370 --> 03:17:44,880
and the whistleblowers who have come

5127
03:17:48,830 --> 03:17:46,380
forward the actual whistleblers who've

5128
03:17:51,410 --> 03:17:48,840
come forward seen this are they going to

5129
03:17:53,750 --> 03:17:51,420
proceed with Plan B Because allegedly

5130
03:17:56,510 --> 03:17:53,760
James Fox is saying that he's got them

5131
03:17:58,370 --> 03:17:56,520
on camera saying stuff

5132
03:18:01,429 --> 03:17:58,380
yeah they have the Fail-Safe they have

5133
03:18:03,830 --> 03:18:01,439
the what's that word there's a word

5134
03:18:05,929 --> 03:18:03,840
people use when if that doesn't happen I

5135
03:18:07,450 --> 03:18:05,939
have the some some sort of switch or

5136
03:18:12,230 --> 03:18:07,460
something

5137
03:18:15,410 --> 03:18:12,240
I say yeah contingencies contingencies

5138
03:18:17,510 --> 03:18:15,420
yeah oh God I like the way she said it I

5139
03:18:19,849 --> 03:18:17,520
like the way you said that Jess

5140
03:18:21,710 --> 03:18:19,859
that's what I'm here for

5141
03:18:22,790 --> 03:18:21,720
uh

5142
03:18:24,050 --> 03:18:22,800
go ahead

5143
03:18:27,050 --> 03:18:24,060
I was going to say what do you think

5144
03:18:30,490 --> 03:18:28,670
I don't I couldn't even tell you what

5145
03:18:45,769 --> 03:18:30,500
his suit looked like I don't even know

5146
03:18:50,990 --> 03:18:47,590
I heard skin

5147
03:18:53,990 --> 03:18:51,000
yeah did anyone watch the first episode

5148
03:18:56,510 --> 03:18:54,000
last night no but like I said on Twitter

5149
03:18:58,370 --> 03:18:56,520
it's it's Arrow dead man switch thank

5150
03:19:00,349 --> 03:18:58,380
you ludicrous yes Dead Man's switch

5151
03:19:02,330 --> 03:19:00,359
something happens to me you guys are

5152
03:19:04,370 --> 03:19:02,340
gonna learn everything

5153
03:19:06,110 --> 03:19:04,380
um I I knew it was the dead man switch I

5154
03:19:07,330 --> 03:19:06,120
was just watching you struggle I like to

5155
03:19:09,590 --> 03:19:07,340
watch

5156
03:19:11,630 --> 03:19:09,600
exactly what you're talking about skin

5157
03:19:14,630 --> 03:19:11,640
walker Ranch episode uh season four

5158
03:19:16,550 --> 03:19:14,640
episode one if you deal in in torrents

5159
03:19:19,370 --> 03:19:16,560
there there are available so you can

5160
03:19:20,990 --> 03:19:19,380
watch that way which I'm gonna do

5161
03:19:22,969 --> 03:19:21,000
um today or tonight

5162
03:19:24,349 --> 03:19:22,979
he said if I'm successful you won't need

5163
03:19:25,910 --> 03:19:24,359
an arrow

5164
03:19:27,889 --> 03:19:25,920
um he said I'm not chasing a Chinese

5165
03:19:30,050 --> 03:19:27,899
balloon that's not my job

5166
03:19:31,670 --> 03:19:30,060
I'll be gone in one year goodbye I'll be

5167
03:19:33,590 --> 03:19:31,680
gone in one year very curious to see if

5168
03:19:35,269 --> 03:19:33,600
that happens Jilla brand said uh filters

5169
03:19:37,130 --> 03:19:35,279
are the filters keeping us from

5170
03:19:39,050 --> 03:19:37,140
capturing certain raw data he's like no

5171
03:19:41,450 --> 03:19:39,060
we're getting all the raw Data before

5172
03:19:42,889 --> 03:19:41,460
it's scrubbed which I didn't know and

5173
03:19:44,690 --> 03:19:42,899
then we take that data and try to cross

5174
03:19:46,610 --> 03:19:44,700
correlate it with what pilots and others

5175
03:19:49,370 --> 03:19:46,620
are seeing are there any signatures we

5176
03:19:51,050 --> 03:19:49,380
can compare to known UAP

5177
03:19:53,090 --> 03:19:51,060
uh and then use whatever we learned to

5178
03:19:54,650 --> 03:19:53,100
see if we need to change algorithms and

5179
03:19:56,809 --> 03:19:54,660
then he and then he was asking about the

5180
03:20:00,530 --> 03:19:56,819
academic community and then he had the

5181
03:20:02,809 --> 03:20:00,540
gall to quote Carl Sagan

5182
03:20:04,730 --> 03:20:02,819
Carl Sagan once said as Christopher

5183
03:20:06,650 --> 03:20:04,740
Mellon said although melon got the quote

5184
03:20:10,429 --> 03:20:06,660
wrong extraordinary claims require

5185
03:20:14,110 --> 03:20:10,439
extraordinary evidence and extraordinary

5186
03:20:17,330 --> 03:20:14,120
science that was his addition yeah

5187
03:20:20,690 --> 03:20:17,340
I love how he's like Mia Carl Sagan said

5188
03:20:23,230 --> 03:20:20,700
this but I say this yeah imagine walking

5189
03:20:27,910 --> 03:20:23,240
into any job with his attitude though

5190
03:20:33,110 --> 03:20:30,230
does that sound like a narcissist to you

5191
03:20:34,969 --> 03:20:33,120
Jess no I mean he just he just he

5192
03:20:37,730 --> 03:20:34,979
obviously thinks

5193
03:20:40,190 --> 03:20:37,740
it's beneath him it's a waste of time

5194
03:20:41,929 --> 03:20:40,200
it's it's irritating to him read his

5195
03:20:42,830 --> 03:20:41,939
body language I've never seen somebody

5196
03:20:45,170 --> 03:20:42,840
who

5197
03:20:47,210 --> 03:20:45,180
and I reviewed a lot pretty much

5198
03:20:49,370 --> 03:20:47,220
everybody who's ever spoken about this

5199
03:20:50,269 --> 03:20:49,380
I've never seen that type of attitude

5200
03:20:52,550 --> 03:20:50,279
before

5201
03:20:54,590 --> 03:20:52,560
yeah even the last thing they were they

5202
03:20:56,809 --> 03:20:54,600
didn't want to be there but they weren't

5203
03:20:58,190 --> 03:20:56,819
just as disgusted with the topic almost

5204
03:21:01,309 --> 03:20:58,200
as he was

5205
03:21:04,610 --> 03:21:01,319
so you don't get UFO fan from him

5206
03:21:07,790 --> 03:21:04,620
no not at all he thinks it's a waste of

5207
03:21:10,730 --> 03:21:07,800
time yeah right

5208
03:21:12,410 --> 03:21:10,740
yeah he said um

5209
03:21:14,210 --> 03:21:12,420
the theories range you know the

5210
03:21:17,269 --> 03:21:14,220
hypotheses range everything from

5211
03:21:19,130 --> 03:21:17,279
adversary to known to the extreme theory

5212
03:21:22,190 --> 03:21:19,140
of ETS

5213
03:21:23,450 --> 03:21:22,200
y like I would say well it doesn't have

5214
03:21:25,910 --> 03:21:23,460
to be E.T you could just throw in

5215
03:21:27,650 --> 03:21:25,920
non-human I don't I understand why

5216
03:21:29,210 --> 03:21:27,660
people think it's extreme but it's like

5217
03:21:31,010 --> 03:21:29,220
if you're going to look at the data in

5218
03:21:34,490 --> 03:21:31,020
an unbiased manner manner just don't

5219
03:21:36,469 --> 03:21:34,500
even put a label on it all are physics

5220
03:21:38,150 --> 03:21:36,479
based and I I don't remember exactly

5221
03:21:39,950 --> 03:21:38,160
what he said here we need we need peer

5222
03:21:41,690 --> 03:21:39,960
review for all of it it's gonna take

5223
03:21:43,790 --> 03:21:41,700
forever it's gonna take forever if

5224
03:21:45,710 --> 03:21:43,800
that's the only thing we rely on

5225
03:21:47,510 --> 03:21:45,720
NASA's I'm looking at looking at

5226
03:21:49,790 --> 03:21:47,520
unclassified signatures they can pull

5227
03:21:51,349 --> 03:21:49,800
out uh information from

5228
03:21:53,630 --> 03:21:51,359
and he just said Thank you for allowing

5229
03:21:54,950 --> 03:21:53,640
me to share my insight so

5230
03:21:55,990 --> 03:21:54,960
yeah

5231
03:21:59,330 --> 03:21:56,000
um

5232
03:22:00,650 --> 03:21:59,340
my final thoughts were it's it's okay

5233
03:22:03,110 --> 03:22:00,660
but it's

5234
03:22:06,110 --> 03:22:03,120
it's not what we need and I'm really

5235
03:22:09,110 --> 03:22:06,120
curious to see how people like Richard

5236
03:22:11,030 --> 03:22:09,120
Budd or James Fox or Gary Nolan or any

5237
03:22:12,349 --> 03:22:11,040
of those folks who supposedly have

5238
03:22:14,570 --> 03:22:12,359
communication or know about the

5239
03:22:16,070 --> 03:22:14,580
whistlebler information how those folks

5240
03:22:17,690 --> 03:22:16,080
feel and what's the next step basically

5241
03:22:18,950 --> 03:22:17,700
that's where we are

5242
03:22:20,510 --> 03:22:18,960
hmm

5243
03:22:22,190 --> 03:22:20,520
I like how we went from like that was

5244
03:22:24,110 --> 03:22:22,200
pretty good and we keep talking about

5245
03:22:25,730 --> 03:22:24,120
and it's like this is [\h__\h] it was

5246
03:22:27,469 --> 03:22:25,740
garbage what the hell was I thinking

5247
03:22:29,150 --> 03:22:27,479
yesterday I've done that to you I'm

5248
03:22:31,490 --> 03:22:29,160
gonna do the opposite usually I jump in

5249
03:22:32,929 --> 03:22:31,500
and say I really was unhappy like the

5250
03:22:35,630 --> 03:22:32,939
New York Times

5251
03:22:37,490 --> 03:22:35,640
the crash retrieval article which I was

5252
03:22:39,650 --> 03:22:37,500
hyping up a lot and when it came out I'm

5253
03:22:42,050 --> 03:22:39,660
like this is not this can't be the

5254
03:22:43,790 --> 03:22:42,060
article what is this isn't the article

5255
03:22:45,469 --> 03:22:43,800
this is the article before the article

5256
03:22:46,969 --> 03:22:45,479
right but then I looked at it the next

5257
03:22:49,790 --> 03:22:46,979
day and we had Eric Davis saying

5258
03:22:51,469 --> 03:22:49,800
retrieval from off-world Vehicles we had

5259
03:22:53,990 --> 03:22:51,479
some other quotes So I you know I saw

5260
03:22:56,090 --> 03:22:54,000
him on that yes who knows the attitude

5261
03:22:57,050 --> 03:22:56,100
of the Skeptics that you love so much

5262
03:23:01,010 --> 03:22:57,060
Joe

5263
03:23:02,570 --> 03:23:01,020
I do yeah I mean basically he has the

5264
03:23:04,670 --> 03:23:02,580
same attitude like this is ridiculous

5265
03:23:06,050 --> 03:23:04,680
it's a point waste of time like I know

5266
03:23:07,670 --> 03:23:06,060
what this is I'm going through the

5267
03:23:10,309 --> 03:23:07,680
motions

5268
03:23:13,969 --> 03:23:10,319
I mean yeah I'm not sure I really I'm

5269
03:23:16,550 --> 03:23:13,979
still unsure of what how he feels

5270
03:23:18,530 --> 03:23:16,560
I know you know Stratton said that when

5271
03:23:20,630 --> 03:23:18,540
he was asked to take over he didn't push

5272
03:23:22,490 --> 03:23:20,640
he goes I didn't recommend it I didn't I

5273
03:23:24,170 --> 03:23:22,500
didn't volunteer I was asked to do it

5274
03:23:25,010 --> 03:23:24,180
and I did it

5275
03:23:26,870 --> 03:23:25,020
um

5276
03:23:28,250 --> 03:23:26,880
so I don't I don't know he may just be

5277
03:23:29,630 --> 03:23:28,260
like this is not really what I want to

5278
03:23:31,190 --> 03:23:29,640
do yeah he may not have no interest he

5279
03:23:33,590 --> 03:23:31,200
may think it's like you said beneath him

5280
03:23:36,429 --> 03:23:33,600
and it's it's pseudoscience and all that

5281
03:23:38,809 --> 03:23:36,439
I don't know which was what personality

5282
03:23:41,510 --> 03:23:38,819
final thoughts Mike

5283
03:23:43,429 --> 03:23:41,520
I I don't know I decided I had to burp

5284
03:23:45,290 --> 03:23:43,439
again right when you asked me it's a

5285
03:23:47,570 --> 03:23:45,300
problem on live streams

5286
03:23:49,729 --> 03:23:47,580
yeah gassy

5287
03:23:51,830 --> 03:23:49,739
um my final thoughts no I think overall

5288
03:23:54,229 --> 03:23:51,840
7.5 out of 10 I was surprised to get

5289
03:23:55,969 --> 03:23:54,239
that that org video I was surprised that

5290
03:23:57,710 --> 03:23:55,979
they were able to work VLC that was

5291
03:23:58,490 --> 03:23:57,720
awesome

5292
03:24:00,889 --> 03:23:58,500
um

5293
03:24:03,290 --> 03:24:00,899
and yeah I think the arrow was prepared

5294
03:24:05,870 --> 03:24:03,300
to present I really want to know we all

5295
03:24:07,729 --> 03:24:05,880
want to know what was going on or said

5296
03:24:10,190 --> 03:24:07,739
during the classified we didn't hear

5297
03:24:12,290 --> 03:24:10,200
anything about any talk about crash

5298
03:24:15,530 --> 03:24:12,300
retrievals and we didn't hear anything

5299
03:24:17,990 --> 03:24:15,540
about uh really cases that took place in

5300
03:24:19,429 --> 03:24:18,000
space or under water that's what I

5301
03:24:20,210 --> 03:24:19,439
really wanted to hear and I did not hear

5302
03:24:26,750 --> 03:24:20,220
it

5303
03:24:29,570 --> 03:24:26,760
enough for me I need more

5304
03:24:31,969 --> 03:24:29,580
yeah it's a little bit more meat yeah

5305
03:24:34,190 --> 03:24:31,979
yeah they've got to acknowledge that it

5306
03:24:36,170 --> 03:24:34,200
exists or something Dave's got a space

5307
03:24:37,790 --> 03:24:36,180
out radio if you're chasing UAP you're

5308
03:24:39,950 --> 03:24:37,800
chasing man-made projects we need to

5309
03:24:41,809 --> 03:24:39,960
learn more about UFOs no Stratton

5310
03:24:43,969 --> 03:24:41,819
explained I think Ted Rowe said that

5311
03:24:45,349 --> 03:24:43,979
Richard Haynes came up with UAP when

5312
03:24:48,170 --> 03:24:45,359
they formed

5313
03:24:49,550 --> 03:24:48,180
and I I forgot what it was again upper

5314
03:24:52,070 --> 03:24:49,560
it's not afro

5315
03:24:54,050 --> 03:24:52,080
um but and then Stratton said we

5316
03:24:56,090 --> 03:24:54,060
purposely changed it to UAP from UFOs

5317
03:24:57,950 --> 03:24:56,100
because when we were calling as soon as

5318
03:24:59,570 --> 03:24:57,960
we said UFOs they were so turned off and

5319
03:25:01,670 --> 03:24:59,580
thought Little Green Men let's just go

5320
03:25:03,530 --> 03:25:01,680
to UAP it works better and they listen

5321
03:25:05,269 --> 03:25:03,540
and then we get in and we can brief them

5322
03:25:07,849 --> 03:25:05,279
it's like it makes sense it's not some

5323
03:25:09,889 --> 03:25:07,859
big conspiracy to change it to UAP like

5324
03:25:11,809 --> 03:25:09,899
some people thought and UAP are still

5325
03:25:13,910 --> 03:25:11,819
unknown you know and they even changed

5326
03:25:15,530 --> 03:25:13,920
it to it shows now it's unidentified

5327
03:25:17,929 --> 03:25:15,540
anomalous phenomena because they realize

5328
03:25:19,849 --> 03:25:17,939
it's not all aerial stuff whatever we're

5329
03:25:21,830 --> 03:25:19,859
dealing with and then here is the here's

5330
03:25:23,990 --> 03:25:21,840
the Flash

5331
03:25:25,490 --> 03:25:24,000
a flash survey

5332
03:25:29,030 --> 03:25:25,500
poll

5333
03:25:30,410 --> 03:25:29,040
49 were expect that's good 49 were fine

5334
03:25:32,510 --> 03:25:30,420
they expected you know the hearing was

5335
03:25:34,910 --> 03:25:32,520
not the expected eight percent was more

5336
03:25:37,190 --> 03:25:34,920
than less was 42.

5337
03:25:38,870 --> 03:25:37,200
um Caspian your final thoughts and

5338
03:25:40,729 --> 03:25:38,880
thanks for joining us and staying on for

5339
03:25:41,990 --> 03:25:40,739
so long that's that's all right actually

5340
03:25:43,429 --> 03:25:42,000
the last thing I was going to say was

5341
03:25:45,170 --> 03:25:43,439
that when he was mentioning about the

5342
03:25:47,630 --> 03:25:45,180
the Extraterrestrial hypothesis as being

5343
03:25:49,370 --> 03:25:47,640
like on the far speculative end of the

5344
03:25:51,050 --> 03:25:49,380
spectrum I think the reason why he

5345
03:25:53,210 --> 03:25:51,060
probably didn't mention other things is

5346
03:25:54,710 --> 03:25:53,220
because reasonably speaking the

5347
03:25:56,750 --> 03:25:54,720
scientists involved you would presume

5348
03:25:59,090 --> 03:25:56,760
would be entertaining ideas like maybe

5349
03:26:00,830 --> 03:25:59,100
Time Travelers or extraterrestrials but

5350
03:26:02,750 --> 03:26:00,840
they're not I I wouldn't imagine they're

5351
03:26:05,330 --> 03:26:02,760
immediately going to dive into like the

5352
03:26:07,190 --> 03:26:05,340
super woo of being like Oh uh you know

5353
03:26:08,510 --> 03:26:07,200
the afterlife or Ultra terrestrials or

5354
03:26:10,490 --> 03:26:08,520
crypto terrestrials or all of this sort

5355
03:26:12,650 --> 03:26:10,500
of thing necessarily so it's probable

5356
03:26:14,090 --> 03:26:12,660
that what he's he's being exposed to and

5357
03:26:15,349 --> 03:26:14,100
what he's being you know his his

5358
03:26:17,570 --> 03:26:15,359
scientific body that he's getting

5359
03:26:19,309 --> 03:26:17,580
information from is mostly focused on

5360
03:26:21,290 --> 03:26:19,319
specific hypotheses especially in their

5361
03:26:23,690 --> 03:26:21,300
alignment with NASA

5362
03:26:25,130 --> 03:26:23,700
um presumably so that that could be why

5363
03:26:27,110 --> 03:26:25,140
that's that's not being mentioned or it

5364
03:26:28,849 --> 03:26:27,120
just could be because he doesn't care

5365
03:26:30,769 --> 03:26:28,859
um and he sees that stuff as being you

5366
03:26:32,510 --> 03:26:30,779
know if if this is only entertainable

5367
03:26:34,550 --> 03:26:32,520
insofar as it's by the scientific method

5368
03:26:35,570 --> 03:26:34,560
that stuff is just so pseudoscience I

5369
03:26:37,490 --> 03:26:35,580
don't even want to think about it kind

5370
03:26:38,150 --> 03:26:37,500
of thing you know

5371
03:26:40,729 --> 03:26:38,160
um

5372
03:26:42,769 --> 03:26:40,739
but that would just be my my final uh

5373
03:26:44,809 --> 03:26:42,779
comments on it yeah yeah and then I

5374
03:26:47,690 --> 03:26:44,819
would I would say it all went about as I

5375
03:26:50,630 --> 03:26:47,700
expected about yeah six or seven out of

5376
03:26:53,150 --> 03:26:50,640
ten thank you again Caspian for being

5377
03:26:55,790 --> 03:26:53,160
here and we'll do it again the next one

5378
03:26:57,530 --> 03:26:55,800
I'm Gonna Let You Go

5379
03:27:00,889 --> 03:26:57,540
and

5380
03:27:05,210 --> 03:27:03,530
I think comments

5381
03:27:06,349 --> 03:27:05,220
okay I think

5382
03:27:09,110 --> 03:27:06,359
um

5383
03:27:12,309 --> 03:27:09,120
from hearing how so many Senator

5384
03:27:15,650 --> 03:27:12,319
senators are behind this movement

5385
03:27:19,130 --> 03:27:15,660
basically the whole failure to appear

5386
03:27:20,750 --> 03:27:19,140
and support really hurt the hearing I

5387
03:27:22,969 --> 03:27:20,760
think that's going to be the biggest

5388
03:27:25,450 --> 03:27:22,979
issue I think that's why we didn't get

5389
03:27:28,790 --> 03:27:25,460
as much out of

5390
03:27:30,469 --> 03:27:28,800
Kirkpatrick as we wanted to hear I think

5391
03:27:31,550 --> 03:27:30,479
if he had a bigger audience who would

5392
03:27:33,229 --> 03:27:31,560
have gotten more

5393
03:27:34,910 --> 03:27:33,239
so I think that's

5394
03:27:37,370 --> 03:27:34,920
the biggest thing I think it's probably

5395
03:27:39,710 --> 03:27:37,380
going to hurt future hearings also I

5396
03:27:43,010 --> 03:27:39,720
mean what's the point if nobody shows up

5397
03:27:46,550 --> 03:27:43,020
now when is the the um hearing that June

5398
03:27:49,250 --> 03:27:46,560
June 13 June so burchett talked about

5399
03:27:51,170 --> 03:27:49,260
um Kevin McCarthy putting on a hearing

5400
03:27:52,429 --> 03:27:51,180
we'll see so it's April we have two

5401
03:27:54,710 --> 03:27:52,439
months to see what that's going to be

5402
03:27:57,950 --> 03:27:54,720
who he invites who they let's speak how

5403
03:28:00,590 --> 03:27:57,960
do you how do you cover this topic and

5404
03:28:03,050 --> 03:28:00,600
not at least invite the guy who ran a

5405
03:28:04,849 --> 03:28:03,060
program like Lou or Stratton how do you

5406
03:28:07,550 --> 03:28:04,859
not invite them it's like

5407
03:28:08,690 --> 03:28:07,560
it really makes I don't understand it I

5408
03:28:10,309 --> 03:28:08,700
really don't understand why you wouldn't

5409
03:28:12,710 --> 03:28:10,319
do that especially the guy who's in

5410
03:28:14,870 --> 03:28:12,720
there before before Kirkpatrick and

5411
03:28:17,389 --> 03:28:14,880
basically the narrow you know was the

5412
03:28:18,830 --> 03:28:17,399
UAP task force so

5413
03:28:20,330 --> 03:28:18,840
um somebody needs to ask Jello brand

5414
03:28:23,150 --> 03:28:20,340
what the hell happened like where's

5415
03:28:24,410 --> 03:28:23,160
everybody at where all your peeps yeah

5416
03:28:26,090 --> 03:28:24,420
exactly nobody showed up that's

5417
03:28:27,469 --> 03:28:26,100
embarrassing and I was worried when I

5418
03:28:30,710 --> 03:28:27,479
saw her interview once I think it was

5419
03:28:33,650 --> 03:28:30,720
CNN it's like she

5420
03:28:35,150 --> 03:28:33,660
I I don't know I'm I'm gonna I'm not

5421
03:28:37,429 --> 03:28:35,160
happy I'm not thrilled with her right

5422
03:28:38,450 --> 03:28:37,439
now and Kirkpatrick's idea that

5423
03:28:40,429 --> 03:28:38,460
extraordinary claims require

5424
03:28:43,190 --> 03:28:40,439
extraordinary evidence is originally a

5425
03:28:46,610 --> 03:28:43,200
religious belief in the Middle Ages

5426
03:28:48,769 --> 03:28:46,620
I did not know that I did not know that

5427
03:28:51,650 --> 03:28:48,779
but all right I'm Gonna Let You Go Jess

5428
03:28:56,330 --> 03:28:53,510
and then Mike

5429
03:28:58,070 --> 03:28:56,340
we're done faster you know I couldn't I

5430
03:28:59,170 --> 03:28:58,080
could have actually worked today but I'm

5431
03:29:02,030 --> 03:28:59,180
I'm fine

5432
03:29:04,190 --> 03:29:02,040
I can go to sleep now it's fine yeah you

5433
03:29:06,050 --> 03:29:04,200
could rest now

5434
03:29:07,610 --> 03:29:06,060
um good first show

5435
03:29:09,010 --> 03:29:07,620
what the hell is that is that an ad yeah

5436
03:29:11,330 --> 03:29:09,020
let me get rid of that

5437
03:29:12,530 --> 03:29:11,340
well Michael Vai

5438
03:29:15,229 --> 03:29:12,540
um he didn't see it we could have

5439
03:29:17,150 --> 03:29:15,239
briefed him well I'll have him on again

5440
03:29:19,309 --> 03:29:17,160
um

5441
03:29:20,929 --> 03:29:19,319
I'm really curious what his take like

5442
03:29:22,429 --> 03:29:20,939
he's he's really he doesn't think we're

5443
03:29:25,790 --> 03:29:22,439
gonna get that

5444
03:29:28,910 --> 03:29:25,800
crash retrieval stuff he'd be surprised

5445
03:29:30,469 --> 03:29:28,920
but like I said I I don't it depends on

5446
03:29:31,969 --> 03:29:30,479
what whistleblowers are going to say and

5447
03:29:33,110 --> 03:29:31,979
how how much do they really are a

5448
03:29:35,030 --> 03:29:33,120
whistleblower if they're going to just

5449
03:29:37,429 --> 03:29:35,040
say you know screw it I'm going to tell

5450
03:29:39,110 --> 03:29:37,439
tell everything but it'll be a

5451
03:29:40,910 --> 03:29:39,120
possibility I think that's a possibility

5452
03:29:42,769 --> 03:29:40,920
we'll see I mean that's breaking they're

5453
03:29:44,330 --> 03:29:42,779
going to be breaking the law

5454
03:29:46,309 --> 03:29:44,340
um but they may say well what's an

5455
03:29:47,990 --> 03:29:46,319
illegal program and it's not having any

5456
03:29:49,250 --> 03:29:48,000
oversight so I'm going to do it we'll

5457
03:29:51,229 --> 03:29:49,260
see I know a lot of people don't like

5458
03:29:54,110 --> 03:29:51,239
that I knew Lou was against

5459
03:29:56,630 --> 03:29:54,120
that kind of stuff but I'm really I'm

5460
03:29:59,090 --> 03:29:56,640
curious to see how Lou reacts today he

5461
03:30:00,889 --> 03:29:59,100
was making comments before I don't know

5462
03:30:05,510 --> 03:30:00,899
if he still has comment before the

5463
03:30:09,889 --> 03:30:07,490
I thought he had a tweet I could be

5464
03:30:12,889 --> 03:30:09,899
wrong it might be in a reply

5465
03:30:14,450 --> 03:30:12,899
um he retweeted uh the good trouble show

5466
03:30:16,490 --> 03:30:14,460
statement that Sean saw that so he

5467
03:30:18,229 --> 03:30:16,500
really didn't he did not comment I

5468
03:30:19,309 --> 03:30:18,239
thought he did I saw something else so

5469
03:30:21,950 --> 03:30:19,319
I'm just really curious to see what he

5470
03:30:23,090 --> 03:30:21,960
has to say I know hopefully he says

5471
03:30:25,130 --> 03:30:23,100
something

5472
03:30:27,050 --> 03:30:25,140
and for everybody watching Mike first of

5473
03:30:28,849 --> 03:30:27,060
all Mike thank you for doing this no

5474
03:30:30,830 --> 03:30:28,859
problem thank you for having me it was

5475
03:30:33,349 --> 03:30:30,840
good and

5476
03:30:35,809 --> 03:30:33,359
Mike and I have talked about doing

5477
03:30:39,110 --> 03:30:35,819
shows where we're just compiling

5478
03:30:41,210 --> 03:30:39,120
musicals musicals and I'll put my drums

5479
03:30:43,190 --> 03:30:41,220
and but we're talking about pulling

5480
03:30:44,630 --> 03:30:43,200
videos and just updating everybody for

5481
03:30:46,190 --> 03:30:44,640
the week because there's first of all he

5482
03:30:47,630 --> 03:30:46,200
does a great job I'm usually behind him

5483
03:30:49,250 --> 03:30:47,640
because I wake up later because he's

5484
03:30:50,990 --> 03:30:49,260
ahead of me in the time

5485
03:30:53,269 --> 03:30:51,000
um but we talk about doing that

5486
03:30:55,070 --> 03:30:53,279
once a week maybe more if we can we'll

5487
03:30:56,929 --> 03:30:55,080
see if there's a if there's a demand and

5488
03:30:58,070 --> 03:30:56,939
people like it we had a today was good

5489
03:30:59,330 --> 03:30:58,080
we had a lot of people I'm sure there

5490
03:31:01,429 --> 03:30:59,340
were a lot of people who aren't UFO

5491
03:31:04,490 --> 03:31:01,439
people who just wanted to watch it

5492
03:31:05,990 --> 03:31:04,500
hope I hope I think it was enough there

5493
03:31:08,150 --> 03:31:06,000
for new people to be at least be

5494
03:31:10,130 --> 03:31:08,160
interested

5495
03:31:12,349 --> 03:31:10,140
um but I'm really curious to watch the

5496
03:31:15,050 --> 03:31:12,359
rest of the day later on to see how UAP

5497
03:31:16,969 --> 03:31:15,060
uh UFO Twitter reaction if there's any

5498
03:31:18,410 --> 03:31:16,979
reaction from behind the scenes with

5499
03:31:21,769 --> 03:31:18,420
whistleblowers

5500
03:31:23,630 --> 03:31:21,779
yeah that's yeah exactly like what the

5501
03:31:25,190 --> 03:31:23,640
hell is going on we keep on hearing

5502
03:31:27,349 --> 03:31:25,200
there's these things happening behind

5503
03:31:28,610 --> 03:31:27,359
the scenes so when are we gonna find out

5504
03:31:32,510 --> 03:31:28,620
about it

5505
03:31:34,550 --> 03:31:32,520
exactly hints of it any hints of it

5506
03:31:37,010 --> 03:31:34,560
we'll see we'll see we got next month's

5507
03:31:39,530 --> 03:31:37,020
hearing and then we have the end of the

5508
03:31:40,670 --> 03:31:39,540
year so I'll talk to you soon we'll do

5509
03:31:41,630 --> 03:31:40,680
this again thanks again Mike thanks

5510
03:31:46,490 --> 03:31:41,640
everybody